The truth isn’t that out there: Aliens existed in the past

When discussing intelligent life forms not found on Earth, questions and theories tend to focus on whether or not they currently exist. However, new research shows that it is almost impossible for humans to be the only intelligent life forms ever.

In a study published late last month, empirical evidence shows the likelihood of humans being the only intelligent life form in the history of the universe as ten-billion-trillion to one. That is a one followed by 34 zeros. The odds of winning the Powerball Jackpot are 292 million to one, according to the Boston Globe.

To give you an even better idea, the odds of being hit by pieces of satellite debris falling from space are one in twenty-one trillion. That means you’re 476,190,476,190,476,190,476.2 times more likely to be hit by satellite debris from space than be a part of the only intelligent species ever anywhere.

How this number game started is an interesting story. Researchers Adam Frank and Woodruff Sullivan of the University of Rochester and the University of Washington, respectively, took a look at the Drake equation, which was created by a scientist named Frank Drake in 1961 as a mathematical approach to determining if we are alone in the universe, Newsweek reported.

However, Frank and Sullivan figured out that if you change the question, you can get a different answer. Instead of asking if we are the only intelligent life form in the universe, they decided to look at whether we have been the only intelligent life in the universe.

By using data from NASA’s Kepler spacecraft, the two researchers were able to create a new equation that uses the knowledge that “roughly one-fifth of stars have planets in ‘habitable zones,’ where temperatures could support life as we know it,” as Frank explained in a statement.

That data led them to the final conclusion that the odds of Earth being the only intelligent planet are one in ten-billion-trillion. The scientific approach to investigating other sources of life could change as a result of their findings.

Frank explained in the press release, “before our result you’d be considered a pessimist if you imagined the probability of evolving a civilization on a habitable planet was, say, one in a trillion. But even that guess, one chance in a trillion, implies that what has happened here on Earth with humanity has in fact happened about 10 billion other times over cosmic history.”

http://www.rt.com/usa/343255-aliens-space-existed-probably/

thats a fluff article, they just threw some numbers out there to make it look like they actually know something about alien life... fact is, nobody has any way of knowing anything about life on other worlds until we actually visit a planet besides earth... or they visit us...

obarry said something kinda odd once, telling a little girl "We haven’t actually made direct contact with aliens yet."

direct contact?

http://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/644614/Obama-alien-contact-quip-fuels-rumours-2016-WILL-be-the-year-of-UFO-disclosure

I must say...after careful analysis...that we must be the most intelligent life form in the universe.
We are lucky enough to have inhabited a planet that could sustain life, minerals and resources to create anything our oversized brains could conjure up, and opposable thumbs to help assemble them....plastic, glass, automobiles, porn, the Space Shuttle...the iPhone....
I think we should take a galactic bow, people.

I have been watching the election results on TV and have found little evidence of intelligent life on this planet.

I'm of the firm belief that Adam and Eve lived on Mars. And then came here. Blasphemous, maybe, but I just don't get the whole Bible thing. Way too many plot holes. =)

Look, mankind doomed itself the very second it started to wonder about its own existence.

News flash, people:

"Existence" itself is just a word we made up. =) Existence has absolutely no meaning whatsoever in the grand scheme of things.

I do believe some kind of life is out there, but if there's truly intelligent life, with the way our world is right now, I hope they're smart enough to stay away from us.

i think it was Venus first, then they had to leave because the sun is slowly getting hotter, and mars could be next...

Glad to find out that we are only Figments of the Universes Imagination,and don't really exist!

What if your wrong? We could be just be the ant farm ..

Let's hope nobody up there thinks of a Magnifying Glass!

"If aliens ever visit us, I think the outcome would be much as when Christopher Columbus first landed in America, which didn't turn out very well for the American Indians."

---Stephen Hawking

Yea tell me about it Cherokee bloodlust runs in my vein

Agreed..

Don't laugh, but maybe we are. =)

Think about something for a moment. What are we? Doesn't it seem incredible how complex the human body is, what it can do, what we're born to do, what we grow up to do? This is intelligent design of the highest order. This isn't something that started out as a fish in the ocean, come on. Something had to make the fish, or the plankton, or the cells, or whatever was the very first matter.

We're just walking, talking, breathing machines that run on billions and billions of electronic charges.

I really think we came from somewhere else, and it wasn't Earth. =)

Think about something else too. The telephone, the computer, the steamship, the automobile, the rocket ship. How do these masterful inventions come about? Do we just come up with these ideas or...have we built them long before?

I can point you to a picture of a dispenser that took Greek drachmas circa 4,000 B.C. or so. Or the great Library of Alexandra that burnt to the ground over 2000 years ago, and quite likely contained some of the most valuable documents in history.

Mankind is an amazing thing. the more we study ourselves, and what we're all about...the more shocked we're going to be when we get the final answers.

Then truly, God help us all.

I know you want to believe in Aliens, but those are not trash numbers. They are based on The Drake Equation.
Look these guys up ,Adam Frank, (professor of physics and astronomy at the University of Rochester) and Woodruff Sullivan (of the University of Rochester and the University of Washington, Astrobiologist, Gnomonicist, Science Historian, ETI Searcher)
Lots of credentials & articles to back RT & these guys up.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake_equation/

[Doesn't it seem incredible how complex the human body is, what it can do, what we're born to do, what we grow up to do? This is intelligent design of the highest order.]
No. This is one possible result of imperfect reproduction and natural selection.

[This isn't something that started out as a fish in the ocean, come on.]
No, fish came after a very long line of living things.

[Something had to make the fish, or the plankton, or the cells, or whatever was the very first matter.]
The laws of physics are responsible.

[I really think we came from somewhere else, and it wasn't Earth. =)]
That's possible, but all it does is move the question elsewhere. Wherever it came from, life would have had to develop there. Imperfectly self-reproducing molecules exposed to varying environments are all you need to get evolution started.

[Think about something else too. The telephone, the computer, the steamship, the automobile, the rocket ship. How do these masterful inventions come about?]
Very bright people, time, money and enthusiasm are all you need.

[Do we just come up with these ideas]
Yes

[or...have we built them long before?]
So improbable as to warrant the answer no.


[I can point you to a picture of a dispenser that took Greek drachmas circa 4,000 B.C. or so. Or the great Library of Alexandra that burnt to the ground over 2000 years ago, and quite likely contained some of the most valuable documents in history.]
Yes. Ancient people were not all stupid. What is your point?

What is your point? And whom are you addressing? What did you quote?

You need an Atlantis thread, real bad, don't ya ?

doing the wrong math doesn't make the answer any more right... i'm not knocking their credentials, but there is no right answer because the beginning values are not certain... guessing on the beginning values , and the drake equation, make sure the answer won't be right...

In reference to your link:

Since when would you believe Obarry over... Over anybody? Do you really believe he had a slip of the lip?
Or that the comments of power hungry globalists are for OUR own GOOD?

Hillary wants to open an Area 51-52 investigation.
Ol' Red Socks, said he would Bapistize them all (yea..bizzare)

Power moves ? They are politicians & globalists.


In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way.

Franklin D. Roosevelt

Slick willie said the same thing... i didn't believe him either... Area 51 is nothing, just a sideshow to draw in peoples attention from where things are really happening... like Antarctica, Brazil and Africa..

The Drake Equation is quite real. It is only as accurate as the factors in the the equation, but it doesn't say there is or is not intelligent life anywhere. It gives the odds of intelligent life being created on life giving planets such as the Earth.

We are finding many planets around other stars so we are getting real information on the number of planets similar to Earth that are in a life compatible zone from the star. These "hard" numbers increase the accuracy of the Drake Equation which only gives the statistical probability of intelligent life anyway.

Our instruments have gotten so good we can detect relative amounts of material around other stars such as water. We also understand the solar burn cycle of stars to know that they produce large amounts of the same materials found on Earth necessary to life ... such as carbon, water, calcium, etc. Given 1,000,000,000,000 planets similar to Earth in heat, water content, and complex minerals, what are the odds that life develops and/or intelligent life?

The odds are pretty good.