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By the way, just from a pure logic point of view, whether a worldwide flood happened or not (no indications at all that it did), it wouldn't prove the existence of god. It would only prove that the claim reported in the folk tale which is now a part of the Bible did happen. It would not prove WHY.
After all, there are also stories in there saying that several times, god ordered genocide against some non-chosen people group. Although there is evidence of many people fighting over the millennia, there is no proof that said genocides occurred, and again, even if there were a graveyard with a sign on it saying "these are the entire population of the nation of whomever, mass murdered at the order of god, " it would no more prove that god did order the deed, than all the modern day claims that fanatics make after they murder innocent people in the name of god. |
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A site listed 73 prophets, and 9 women in the Bible who are called true prophetesses.
http://jesusalive.cc/ Other site said; 133 named prophets plus at least 626 unnamed prophets in the Bible. According to Muslim tradition God sent 124,000 prophets beginning with Adam and ending with Muhammad. http://www.answering-islam.org/authors/bailey/bible_prophets.html In order to prove the Prophet was sent from God he does miracles. Yet some people believe him and others deny. The prophets and apostles and their historical role are real facts. It is not logic they are all liars. Liars were few and people had revealed them and ended their role. Advance knowledge of Noah that the flood will occur at that time with no equipments means definitely it was from God. Noah's insistence on building the ark with no tangible evidence of the flood, confirms that he heard God's order. Nature didn't show people that the flood will happen because they did not believe that. So the ark's construction and the occurrence of the flood is the miracle of Noah and confirm the existence of God. |
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Edited by
lu10nt
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Tue 04/12/16 03:43 AM
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A site listed 73 prophets, and 9 women in the Bible who are called true prophetesses. http://jesusalive.cc/ Other site said; 133 named prophets plus at least 626 unnamed prophets in the Bible. According to Muslim tradition God sent 124,000 prophets beginning with Adam and ending with Muhammad. http://www.answering-islam.org/authors/bailey/bible_prophets.html In order to prove the Prophet was sent from God he does miracles. Yet some people believe him and others deny. The prophets and apostles and their historical role are real facts. It is not logic they are all liars. Liars were few and people had revealed them and ended their role. Advance knowledge of Noah that the flood will occur at that time with no equipments means definitely it was from God. Noah's insistence on building the ark with no tangible evidence of the flood, confirms that he heard God's order. Nature didn't show people that the flood will happen because they did not believe that. So the ark's construction and the occurrence of the flood is the miracle of Noah and confirm the existence of God. "This one is but flesh and faith and is the more deluded" "Your Prophets shall find no salvation on this ring" "This thing is right, Halo is a weapon, your Prophets are making a big mistake" Convenient that god appears 2000 years ago and the only piece of evidence is either the bible or the Quran. Present day all we have is the World Record for the Longest Game of Chinese Whispers and its still going. |
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A site listed 73 prophets, and 9 women in the Bible who are called true prophetesses. http://jesusalive.cc/ Other site said; 133 named prophets plus at least 626 unnamed prophets in the Bible. According to Muslim tradition God sent 124,000 prophets beginning with Adam and ending with Muhammad. http://www.answering-islam.org/authors/bailey/bible_prophets.html In order to prove the Prophet was sent from God he does miracles. Yet some people believe him and others deny. The prophets and apostles and their historical role are real facts. It is not logic they are all liars. Liars were few and people had revealed them and ended their role. Advance knowledge of Noah that the flood will occur at that time with no equipments means definitely it was from God. Noah's insistence on building the ark with no tangible evidence of the flood, confirms that he heard God's order. Nature didn't show people that the flood will happen because they did not believe that. So the ark's construction and the occurrence of the flood is the miracle of Noah and confirm the existence of God. "This one is but flesh and faith and is the more deluded" EDIT: "Your Prophets have promised you freedom from a doomed existence but you shall find no salvation on this ring" "This thing is right, Halo is a weapon, your Prophets are making a big mistake" Convenient that god appears 2000 years ago and the only piece of evidence is either the bible or the Quran. Present day all we have is the World Record for the Longest Game of Chinese Whispers and its still going. |
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By the way, just from a pure logic point of view, whether a worldwide flood happened or not (no indications at all that it did), it wouldn't prove the existence of god. It would only prove that the claim reported in the folk tale which is now a part of the Bible did happen. It would not prove WHY. After all, there are also stories in there saying that several times, god ordered genocide against some non-chosen people group. Although there is evidence of many people fighting over the millennia, there is no proof that said genocides occurred, and again, even if there were a graveyard with a sign on it saying "these are the entire population of the nation of whomever, mass murdered at the order of god, " it would no more prove that god did order the deed, than all the modern day claims that fanatics make after they murder innocent people in the name of god. A-Men, brother! |
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It has to be true. Look at all the water out there. What more proof do you need then that.
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The bible had proved itself an accurate(reliable) history book on many issues like the advent and demise of world empires et al---aside being a moral compass for many who through faith embrace it.
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yep,each animal had 6.5 square/mm of Space(about a quarter of an inch square)
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I know it's not "proof" as it's next too impossible to "prove" something that happened in the past, especially at this length of time in the past. But there have been many cases of fossils found on tops of mountains of animals that were no native too that area, or mountains in general. Like wale fossils found on tops of mountains and things of that nature.
Am having computer difficulties and it's acting up at the very moment or I would site some of the web addresses too find such findings. Will try again later too find the more specific addresses to display such information. |
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I know it's not "proof" as it's next too impossible to "prove" something that happened in the past, especially at this length of time in the past. But there have been many cases of fossils found on tops of mountains of animals that were no native too that area, or mountains in general. Like wale fossils found on tops of mountains and things of that nature. Am having computer difficulties and it's acting up at the very moment or I would site some of the web addresses too find such findings. Will try again later too find the more specific addresses to display such information. mountains weren't always mountains... the tectonic plates forces an upheaval of the land, and mountains rise and fall over time... |
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I know it's not "proof" as it's next too impossible to "prove" something that happened in the past, especially at this length of time in the past. But there have been many cases of fossils found on tops of mountains of animals that were no native too that area, or mountains in general. Like wale fossils found on tops of mountains and things of that nature. Am having computer difficulties and it's acting up at the very moment or I would site some of the web addresses too find such findings. Will try again later too find the more specific addresses to display such information. mountains weren't always mountains... the tectonic plates forces an upheaval of the land, and mountains rise and fall over time... True possibility, except for one factor. For it to have been tectonic plates shifting causing the mountain to rise. It would have had too do it very quickly to capture a whale on top of the mountain in the process, as in rising up in just mere seconds, possibly having to catch the whale off guard as in asleep or something so it couldn't swim away in time before it was caught in the rise of the mountain. Or if it would have caused the water to drain out, lower the water level. Again would have had to be in split seconds too catch the whale off guard. And this isn't just one mere example of this happening, this is evident all across the globe. From California, to the Andes. |
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Edited by
mightymoe
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Tue 07/26/16 02:47 PM
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I know it's not "proof" as it's next too impossible to "prove" something that happened in the past, especially at this length of time in the past. But there have been many cases of fossils found on tops of mountains of animals that were no native too that area, or mountains in general. Like wale fossils found on tops of mountains and things of that nature. Am having computer difficulties and it's acting up at the very moment or I would site some of the web addresses too find such findings. Will try again later too find the more specific addresses to display such information. mountains weren't always mountains... the tectonic plates forces an upheaval of the land, and mountains rise and fall over time... True possibility, except for one factor. For it to have been tectonic plates shifting causing the mountain to rise. It would have had too do it very quickly to capture a whale on top of the mountain in the process, as in rising up in just mere seconds, possibly having to catch the whale off guard as in asleep or something so it couldn't swim away in time before it was caught in the rise of the mountain. Or if it would have caused the water to drain out, lower the water level. Again would have had to be in split seconds too catch the whale off guard. And this isn't just one mere example of this happening, this is evident all across the globe. From California, to the Andes. you're kidding, right? read this... http://theweek.com/speedreads/578738/paleontologists-discover-whale-fossil-mountain |
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I know it's not "proof" as it's next too impossible to "prove" something that happened in the past, especially at this length of time in the past. But there have been many cases of fossils found on tops of mountains of animals that were no native too that area, or mountains in general. Like wale fossils found on tops of mountains and things of that nature. Am having computer difficulties and it's acting up at the very moment or I would site some of the web addresses too find such findings. Will try again later too find the more specific addresses to display such information. mountains weren't always mountains... the tectonic plates forces an upheaval of the land, and mountains rise and fall over time... True possibility, except for one factor. For it to have been tectonic plates shifting causing the mountain to rise. It would have had too do it very quickly to capture a whale on top of the mountain in the process, as in rising up in just mere seconds, possibly having to catch the whale off guard as in asleep or something so it couldn't swim away in time before it was caught in the rise of the mountain. Or if it would have caused the water to drain out, lower the water level. Again would have had to be in split seconds too catch the whale off guard. And this isn't just one mere example of this happening, this is evident all across the globe. From California, to the Andes. you're kidding, right? read this... http://theweek.com/speedreads/578738/paleontologists-discover-whale-fossil-mountain Not saying it's not technically possible... just what are the odds it would have happened several times again all through the world? Especially keeping in complete form of the entire fossils of whales found on the mountains? And through out that passage, you'll see it refers to scientists "think" .... So that would drop it from a fact to a possible "hypothesis" which in the long run is merely an educated guess. Not downing science in anyway, as they have discovered many marvelous and important things. But for the discussion we're having, your putting your "faith" into a "guess" on this note. But still close to impossible. As it would have taken quite a many years for the whale to become fossilized in the first place, then AFTER it was fossilized, again quite many years for it to be moved in whole. |
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I know it's not "proof" as it's next too impossible to "prove" something that happened in the past, especially at this length of time in the past. But there have been many cases of fossils found on tops of mountains of animals that were no native too that area, or mountains in general. Like wale fossils found on tops of mountains and things of that nature. Am having computer difficulties and it's acting up at the very moment or I would site some of the web addresses too find such findings. Will try again later too find the more specific addresses to display such information. mountains weren't always mountains... the tectonic plates forces an upheaval of the land, and mountains rise and fall over time... True possibility, except for one factor. For it to have been tectonic plates shifting causing the mountain to rise. It would have had too do it very quickly to capture a whale on top of the mountain in the process, as in rising up in just mere seconds, possibly having to catch the whale off guard as in asleep or something so it couldn't swim away in time before it was caught in the rise of the mountain. Or if it would have caused the water to drain out, lower the water level. Again would have had to be in split seconds too catch the whale off guard. And this isn't just one mere example of this happening, this is evident all across the globe. From California, to the Andes. you're kidding, right? read this... http://theweek.com/speedreads/578738/paleontologists-discover-whale-fossil-mountain Not saying it's not technically possible... just what are the odds it would have happened several times again all through the world? Especially keeping in complete form of the entire fossils of whales found on the mountains? And through out that passage, you'll see it refers to scientists "think" .... So that would drop it from a fact to a possible "hypothesis" which in the long run is merely an educated guess. Not downing science in anyway, as they have discovered many marvelous and important things. But for the discussion we're having, your putting your "faith" into a "guess" on this note. But still close to impossible. As it would have taken quite a many years for the whale to become fossilized in the first place, then AFTER it was fossilized, again quite many years for it to be moved in whole. And furthering what I said, yes one or two whales could have happened this way. But what are the odds of the whole whale fossil doing this including sea shells and other various sea "creature" fossils in the same location? |
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Edited by
no1phD
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Tue 07/26/16 04:04 PM
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Sooo.let's say he does exist...
Now what.!!.. he still doesn't make his presence known.. does not answer all your prayers... and you won't see him supposably until the day you die... And then what good will that do you?..last time I checked your brain stays here on Earth.. along with your eyeballs..lol.. and your voice box..lol |
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Sooo.let's say he does exist... Now what.!!.. he still doesn't make his presence known.. does not answer all your prayers... and you won't see him supposably until the day you die... And then what good will that do you?..last time I checked your brain stays here on Earth.. along with your eyeballs..lol.. and your voice box..lol he still doesn't make his presence known But he does make his presence known, you can see him all around the world in all the glorious things that happen, big and little. Most people put the credit else where, just depends on where you place your faith. And once someone comes to "know" God, they can feel him inside like a burning flame through the body. does not answer all your prayers He does answer all prayers. Just some people don't like some of the answers one receives as God only gives us the best and what is best for us. Not specifically what we selfishly want or maybe not in a way we thought originally or essentially thought of. you won't see him supposably until the day you die Not quite, it may seem like a blink of an eye as it does when one sleeps and not realizing it's been 8 hours or whatever may be the case. No one has gone to Heaven since Jesus was here, thus why "The dead in Christ shall rise first". last time I checked your brain stays here on Earth We are given a new body in Jesus Christ. |
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Were given a new body in Jesus Christ..?..
It's got to be getting awfully crowded in there by now..lol.. |
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Were given a new body in Jesus Christ..?.. It's got to be getting awfully crowded in there by now..lol.. 1 Corinthians 15:42 - 44 42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption: 43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power: 44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. It's got to be getting awfully crowded in there by now..lol.. I missed the reference lol, please elaborate. |
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I know it's not "proof" as it's next too impossible to "prove" something that happened in the past, especially at this length of time in the past. But there have been many cases of fossils found on tops of mountains of animals that were no native too that area, or mountains in general. Like wale fossils found on tops of mountains and things of that nature. Am having computer difficulties and it's acting up at the very moment or I would site some of the web addresses too find such findings. Will try again later too find the more specific addresses to display such information. mountains weren't always mountains... the tectonic plates forces an upheaval of the land, and mountains rise and fall over time... True possibility, except for one factor. For it to have been tectonic plates shifting causing the mountain to rise. It would have had too do it very quickly to capture a whale on top of the mountain in the process, as in rising up in just mere seconds, possibly having to catch the whale off guard as in asleep or something so it couldn't swim away in time before it was caught in the rise of the mountain. Or if it would have caused the water to drain out, lower the water level. Again would have had to be in split seconds too catch the whale off guard. And this isn't just one mere example of this happening, this is evident all across the globe. From California, to the Andes. you're kidding, right? read this... http://theweek.com/speedreads/578738/paleontologists-discover-whale-fossil-mountain Not saying it's not technically possible... just what are the odds it would have happened several times again all through the world? Especially keeping in complete form of the entire fossils of whales found on the mountains? And through out that passage, you'll see it refers to scientists "think" .... So that would drop it from a fact to a possible "hypothesis" which in the long run is merely an educated guess. Not downing science in anyway, as they have discovered many marvelous and important things. But for the discussion we're having, your putting your "faith" into a "guess" on this note. But still close to impossible. As it would have taken quite a many years for the whale to become fossilized in the first place, then AFTER it was fossilized, again quite many years for it to be moved in whole. like i've always said, try reading a science book instead of a bible every once in a while... |
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I know it's not "proof" as it's next too impossible to "prove" something that happened in the past, especially at this length of time in the past. But there have been many cases of fossils found on tops of mountains of animals that were no native too that area, or mountains in general. Like wale fossils found on tops of mountains and things of that nature. Am having computer difficulties and it's acting up at the very moment or I would site some of the web addresses too find such findings. Will try again later too find the more specific addresses to display such information. mountains weren't always mountains... the tectonic plates forces an upheaval of the land, and mountains rise and fall over time... True possibility, except for one factor. For it to have been tectonic plates shifting causing the mountain to rise. It would have had too do it very quickly to capture a whale on top of the mountain in the process, as in rising up in just mere seconds, possibly having to catch the whale off guard as in asleep or something so it couldn't swim away in time before it was caught in the rise of the mountain. Or if it would have caused the water to drain out, lower the water level. Again would have had to be in split seconds too catch the whale off guard. And this isn't just one mere example of this happening, this is evident all across the globe. From California, to the Andes. you're kidding, right? read this... http://theweek.com/speedreads/578738/paleontologists-discover-whale-fossil-mountain Not saying it's not technically possible... just what are the odds it would have happened several times again all through the world? Especially keeping in complete form of the entire fossils of whales found on the mountains? And through out that passage, you'll see it refers to scientists "think" .... So that would drop it from a fact to a possible "hypothesis" which in the long run is merely an educated guess. Not downing science in anyway, as they have discovered many marvelous and important things. But for the discussion we're having, your putting your "faith" into a "guess" on this note. But still close to impossible. As it would have taken quite a many years for the whale to become fossilized in the first place, then AFTER it was fossilized, again quite many years for it to be moved in whole. And furthering what I said, yes one or two whales could have happened this way. But what are the odds of the whole whale fossil doing this including sea shells and other various sea "creature" fossils in the same location? read the webpage... those fossils sat around for millions of years before the mountains rose... most animals don't pick the spots where they die, they just die.. |
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