The Salafi movement was revived by Sheikh Muhammad ibn Abd-al-Wahhab in the Arabian Peninsula, and was instrumental in the rise of the House of Saud to power. Salafism (Wahhabism) is a puritanical and legalistic Islamic movement under the Sunni umbrella (Hanbali), and is the dominant form of Islam in Saudi Arabia. Wahhabism is, in general, opposed to Sufism and Shi'a Islam, as well as Christians.
ISIS and all the terroristic groups are originated from Wahabbi movement.

I don't know you and I'm not trying to be disrespectful but, how do you know this? Where did you get your information from? I find your claim to be interesting. I thought that the ISIS freaks came from all parts of Islam, not just the Wahabbis. I've been under the impression that many of the lowlives in ISIS were primarily Shiites. Can you clarify for me please? Thanks.

Nice try!

people seem to try to demuslimize isis... they are all muslims, regardless...

like saying a baptist isn't a christian...

Obama said;"We are not at war with Islam. We are at war with people who have perverted Islam ... They try to portray themselves as religious leaders, holy warriors in defense of Islam. We must never accept the premise that they put forward because it is a lie. Nor should we grant these terrorists the religious legitimacy that they seek. They are not religious leaders. They are terrorists."

Okay, so that means we are at "war" against not Islam, but EVIL. Right? Terrorism, in any and all forms for any and all reasons, is EVIL. AND EVIL DOES NOT KNOW NOR CARE THE RELIGION, ETHNICITY, NATIONALITY OR SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC DISPOSITIONS OF INDIVIDUALS! Is this NOT correct? Evil's only purpose in existence is to prevent the spread and perpetuation of anything that is not evil, anything that is "good". Evil cares not about Wahabbi or Shi'a or Protestant or Catholic or even Satanist. Evil only wants darkness, chaos, death and destruction, the exact and polar opposite of good, which seeks to build, heal and create peace and light in the universe.

Muslims are basically divided in two major factions, Sunnis and Shias. Sunni Muslims are the largest denomination of Islam they are currently four recognized schools; Hanafi, Shafi, Maliki and Hanbali. Hanbali is considered to be the most conservative of the four schools. Hanbali jurisprudence is predominant among Muslims in Saudi Arabia.
The Salafi movement (Wahhabism) was revived by Sheikh Muhammad ibn Abd-al-Wahhab in the Arabia Saudi. Osama bin Laden was a wealthy businessman with close ties to the Saudi royal family. He was Wahhabi, the leader of Al-Qaeda. Al-Qaeda has continued to exist and grew through the decade from 2001 to 2011. Then came ISIS.

A discussion on the role of Saudi funding in British mosques, Nina of the Center for Religious Freedom sets Saudi Arabia’s program of Wahhabi indoctrination into a global context following the Center’s pioneering work examining the Kingdom’s textbooks. Among the tens of thousands of schools using these textbooks worldwide is the Islamic Saudi Academy, run by the Saudi Embassy, in Fairfax, VA.

I appreciate your attempt at some clarification here and thank you.

However, you are remiss to not acknowledge that there are radicalized elements in all sectors of Islam. While true that bin Laden was of Saudi descent and his close ties with the Saudi royalty are certainly well established and, yes, the Wahhabis (I am not getting the correct spellings here, so give corrections where needed) and the Shiites are historically opposed in viewpoint stemming from the age-old debate over whether Muhammad was the "true Prophet" (am I getting that correct?), TODAY'S ISIS has "adherents" from seemingly every conceivable walk of life. It isn't restricted to only one sect of Islam. This is why they have such a huge reach and commanding power in the Middle East (that and their very savvy use of social media as a recruitment tool). Although the Shi'a and Sunni are at war with each other, BOTH have declared mutual war on the Western nations.

And I think it fair to draw the line back to Sheikh ibn Abd-al-Wahhab. He can be held up as the original wellspring for the kind of hatred and maleficence that has lead to ISIS today. But ISIS themselves are not only Wahhabi as they have psychotically radical Muslims from almost all sects, excepting the Sufis and any individuals who choose not to kowtow to the ISIS way. In doing so, they risk death, Muslim on Muslim violence if you will. One could say that the long history of tyrannical leadership, married up with extreme interpretations of the Qur'an contributed unnecessarily large amounts of fuel to this fire. You not only have the usual suspects but there are also the so-called "Twelvers" from Iran mixed in. Look, the simple thing is ALL of ISIS are Muslims. They are all radicalized. It does not matter the sects or "schools" these guys belong to, they are EVIL and EVIL MUST BE STOPPED! And anyone supporting them also MUST BE STOPPED! Unfortunately, the situation is so mired up with economic resources that any attempt to "pull the plug" would likely also result in worldwide economic collapse and a massive depression far worse than anything the 1930s could have dished up. All parties are guilty, either directly or by association, for the madness ensuing.

Apologies for the long-winded and probably off-topic reply.

Yes, there's no surprise there. And all of this is the fault of both the West AND Middle Eastern influences. Where is all the world's oil? IN SAUDI ARABIA! And, unfortunately, it is oil dollars that have gone towards funding these terrorists and their madrassas. So we are as much to blame for this as the others. AND AMERICA NEEDS TO STOP DOING BUSINESS WITH SAUDI ARABIA!!

BUT, if we do that, we will potentially end up collapsing the world economy and destroy ourselves in the process. A very bad Catch-22, to say the least.

religion and terror has a long history... Islam does not hold a monopoly on terror, they are just the frontrunners now...and another thing, it isn't just ISIS, there's 100's of different muslim groups that are "terrorists"... are they not islam as well?

Obama is a Politician and full of DooDoo!

Besides,he forgets to mention that Islam has been at war with the US ever since the US became a Country!

http://www.thefederalistpapers.org/us/obama-could-learn-from-thomas-jeffersons-1801-response-to-muslims-during-the-barbary-coast-war

http://freedomoutpost.com/barbary-wars-how-thomas-jefferson-led-americas-first-war-on-terror/

Today, I hear a lot of cries for tolerance, especially of Islam. I'm told, "Stop the hating of Muslims." Many of the very people I hear this from like to point to the Constitution and to the Founding Fathers and especially to the First Amendment and declare that Islam should be tolerated in America. However, I wonder if they have paid attention to either the Constitution or the Founding Fathers on this matter. Specifically, I wonder if they have even considered the words and actions of the third President of the United States, Thomas Jefferson, especially his sense of reading their own texts from the Qur'an and knowing just what his enemies thought. Let's take a stroll down memory lane, shall we?

First, keep in mind that Islam and terrorism have gone hand in hand since its inception at the beginning of the 7th century. In fact, it's founder Muhammad was a terrorist and used "religion" to band his merry men together to conquer, rape and pillage.

For nearly fifteen centuries the world has faced the disease of Islam, but our nation faced it head on when Thomas Jefferson, serving as the ambassador to France, and John Adams, servicing as the ambassador to Britain, went to London to meet with Ambassador Abdrahaman, the Dey of Tripoli's ambassador to Britain. Of course they met with Abdrahaman to negotiate a peace treaty, but keep in mind that in Islam, the only peace is submission to Islam.

Islam requires jizya under Sharia law, you know that alleged "harmless law" they want to impose here in the West. Jizya is a per capita tax levied on a section of an Islamic state's non-Muslim citizens, who meet certain criteria. The tax is and was to be levied on able-bodied adult males of military age and affording power. So as Adams and Jefferson met, they found out the price of peace was quite expensive.

Gary DeMar writes,

If America wanted "temporary peace," a one-year guarantee, it would cost $66,000 plus a 10% commission. "Everlasting peace" was a bargain at $160,000 plus the obligatory commission. This only applied to Tripoli. Other Muslim nations would also have to be paid. The amount came to $1.3 million. But there was no assurance that the treaties would be honored. In vain, Jefferson and Adams tried to argue that America was not at war with Tripoli. In what way had the U.S provoked the Muslims, they asked? Ambassador Abdrahaman went on to explain "the finer points of Islamic jihad" to the Koranically challenged Jefferson and Adams.

Jefferson then wrote a letter to John Jay that read:

"The Ambassador answered us that it was founded on the Laws of their Prophet, that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as Prisoners, and that every Musselman [Muslim] who should be slain in battle was sure to go to Paradise."

This is loosely based upon the Qur'an's teaching from Surah 47:4 which reads,

"Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers (in fight), smite at their necks; At length, when ye have thoroughly subdued them, bind a bond firmly (on them): thereafter (is the time for) either generosity or ransom: Until the war lays down its burdens. Thus (are ye commanded): but if it had been Allah's Will, He could certainly have exacted retribution from them (Himself); but (He lets you fight) in order to test you, some with others. But those who are slain in the Way of Allah,- He will never let their deeds be lost."

So what happened? Though the US, along with Great Britain and France had paid a "tribute" for protection against piracy, once Tripoli increased the tribute following Jefferson becoming President, he refused to pay them the increase, though he did continue to pay until the end of his presidency. Tripoli then declared war on the United States on May 10, 1801. This was the beginning of the First Barbary War.

Interestingly enough, before becoming President, Jefferson had opposed funds be used for a Navy except to provide coastal defense. Gerard W. Gawalt writes concerning Jefferson and the tribute payment:

After the United States won its independence in the treaty of 1783, it had to protect its own commerce against dangers such as the Barbary pirates. As early as 1784 Congress followed the tradition of the European shipping powers and appropriated $80,000 as tribute to the Barbary states, directing its ministers in Europe, Thomas Jefferson and John Adams, to begin negotiations with them. Trouble began the next year, in July 1785, when Algerians captured two American ships and the dey of Algiers held their crews of twenty-one people for a ransom of nearly $60,000.

Thomas Jefferson, United States minister to France, opposed the payment of tribute, as he later testified in words that have a particular resonance today. In his autobiography Jefferson wrote that in 1785 and 1786 he unsuccessfully "endeavored to form an association of the powers subject to habitual depredation from them. I accordingly prepared, and proposed to their ministers at Paris, for consultation with their governments, articles of a special confederation." Jefferson argued that "The object of the convention shall be to compel the piratical States to perpetual peace." Jefferson prepared a detailed plan for the interested states. "Portugal, Naples, the two Sicilies, Venice, Malta, Denmark and Sweden were favorably disposed to such an association," Jefferson remembered, but there were "apprehensions" that England and France would follow their own paths, "and so it fell through."

Paying the ransom would only lead to further demands, Jefferson argued in letters to future presidents John Adams, then America's minister to Great Britain, and James Monroe, then a member of Congress. As Jefferson wrote to Adams in a July 11, 1786, letter, "I acknolege [sic] I very early thought it would be best to effect a peace thro' the medium of war." Paying tribute will merely invite more demands, and even if a coalition proves workable, the only solution is a strong navy that can reach the pirates, Jefferson argued in an August 18, 1786, letter to James Monroe: "The states must see the rod; perhaps it must be felt by some one of them. . . . Every national citizen must wish to see an effective instrument of coercion, and should fear to see it on any other element than the water. A naval force can never endanger our liberties, nor occasion bloodshed; a land force would do both." "From what I learn from the temper of my countrymen and their tenaciousness of their money," Jefferson added in a December 26, 1786, letter to the president of Yale College, Ezra Stiles, "it will be more easy to raise ships and men to fight these pirates into reason, than money to bribe them."

With US merchant ships being attacked and Americans being kidnapped he finally issued letters of marque and reprisal, which sent a groups of privately owned war ships, that were approved by the government, to make war against the Barbary Pirates. He utilized this constitutional measure, which we are not using today.

In doing this he sent for the "privateers," as they were referred to. The privately owned frigates USS Philadelphia, USS President, and the USS Essex, along with the schooner USS Enterprise was America's first navy to cross the Atlantic. Others would also join and see action as well.

Ultimately, in 1805 United States Marines crossed the desert from Egypt into Tripolitania, forced the surrender of Tripoli and free those Americans that had been kidnapped and were made slaves.

Thus, this is where the famous line from the United States Marine Corps (Oorah!) comes from: "From the halls of Montezuma to the shores of Tripoli. Demar says it not only refers to the First Barbary War, but specifically to the Battle of Derna, which took place in 1805.

It is ironic the Rep. Keith Ellison, who became the United States' first Muslim Congressman took his oath of office on Thomas Jefferson's Qur'an at a time when we continue to be at war with Islam. While Ellison has called Jefferson a "visionary," what I think we could all learn is that Jefferson was wise enough to read and learn about the enemy from their own book of jihad. Sadly, many today would rather listen to the lies of Islamists rather than understand what the Qur'an actually teaches. After all, it's been said "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

Alqaeda, ISIS and all other Jihadist organizations are belong to one political movement – Wahabbism (not sect) they use the face of Islam.

The Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Turkey assist the Jihadist to begin war in Syria, Iraq, Libya and Yemen. It is not a war between Shi'a and Sunni. There aren't Shia in Libya for example. The Yazidy and Christians were killed by ISIS. Yes they are EVILS and MUST BE STOPPED!

Alqaeda, ISIS and all other Jihadist organizations are belong to one political movement – Wahabbism (not sect) they use the face of Islam.

The Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Turkey assist the Jihadist to begin war in Syria, Iraq, Libya and Yemen. It is not a war between Shi'a and Sunni. There aren't Shia in Libya for example. The Yazidy and Christians were killed by ISIS. Yes they are EVILS and MUST BE STOPPED!

well,Lung,you Guys own them Lock,Stock and Barrel,they are the product of the Prophet's later additions to the Koran in Medina,when he had the upper hand!

well,Lung,you Guys own them Lock,Stock and Barrel,they are the product of the Prophet's later additions to the Koran in Medina,when he had the upper hand!


All Muslim sects read one holy book
The Quran is the holy book which Muslims recite and turn to for guidance in all aspects of their lives. Its verses have remained intact since their original revelation by God in the 7th century.
The Quran is the last testament in a series of divine revelations from God (Allah). It consists of the unaltered and direct words of God, which were revealed through the Angel Gabriel to Muhammad, the final prophet of Islam, more than 1400 years ago.
ISIS do not respect Quran. They have their political project getting help from many countries.

The difference is...
A Good Muslim wants an ISIS member to behead you



It's Sharia Sharia.. Not Shakira Shakira

All Muslim sects read one holy book
The Quran is the holy book which Muslims recite and turn to for guidance in all aspects of their lives. Its verses have remained intact since their original revelation by God in the 7th century.
The Quran is the last testament in a series of divine revelations from God (Allah). It consists of the unaltered and direct words of God, which were revealed through the Angel Gabriel to Muhammad, the final prophet of Islam, more than 1400 years ago.


Your Medina-Koran in action!

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/03/22/multiple-injuries-reported-after-explosions-at-brussels-aiport.html

Salafism (Wahhabism)is certainly the cause of the spread of much radical Islamic thought, and Saudi money has built Mosques all over to spread the word. However, the number of Americans killed by Iranian IEDs reads in the thousands and the spread of terror with money and weapons to match by the Iranians is unmatched.

Both branches of Islam are to blame and both pursue the hatred of the West with equal vigor.

Is ISIS a bigger threat than Iran? ... Only time will tell. Both should be removed from the civilized world.

you know,it really peeves me when someone pinkles on my Leg,then tries to convince me it is raining!