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come on,cut the Malarkey!
http://founders.archives.gov/documents/Jefferson/01-09-02-0315 American Commissioners to John Jay, 28 March 1786 American Commissioners to John Jay Grosr. Square March 28th. 1786 Sir Soon after the arrival of Mr. J. in London, we had a conference with the Ambassador of Tripoli, at his House. The amount of all the information we can obtain from him was that a perpetual peace was in all respects the most advisable, because a temporary treaty would leave room for increasing demands upon every renewal of it, and a stipulation for annual payments would be liable to failures of performance which would renew the war, repeat the negotiations and continually augment the claims of his nation and the difference of expence would by no means be adequate to the inconvenience, since 12,500 Guineas to his Constituents with 10 pr. Cent upon that sum for himself, must be paid if the treaty was made for only one year. That 30,000 Guineas for his Employers and £3,000 for himself were the lowest terms upon which a perpetual peace could be made and that this must be paid in Cash on the delivery of the treaty signed by his sovereign, that no kind of Merchandizes could be accepted. That Tunis would treat upon the same terms, but he could not answer for Algiers or Morocco. We took the liberty to make some inquiries concerning the Grounds of their pretentions to make war upon Nations who had done them no Injury, and observed that we considered all mankind as our friends who had done us no wrong, nor had given us any provocation. The Ambassador answered us that it was founded on the Laws of their Prophet,1 that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as Prisoners, and that every Musselman who should be slain in battle was sure to go to Paradise. That it was a law that the first who boarded an Enemy’s Vessell should have one slave, more than his share with the rest, which operated as an incentive to the most desperate Valour and Enterprise, that it was the Practice of their Corsairs to bear down upon a ship, for each sailor to take a dagger in each hand and another in his mouth, and leap on board, which so terrified their Enemies that very few ever stood against them, that he verily believed the Devil assisted his Countrymen, for they were almost always successful. We took time to consider and promised an answer, but we can give him no other, than that the demands exceed our Expectations, and that of Congress, so much that we can proceed no further without fresh instructions. There is but one possible way that we know of to procure the money, if Congress should authorize us to go to the necessary expence, and that is to borrow it in Holland. We are not certain it can be had there. But if Congress should order us to make the best terms we can with Tunis, Tripoli, Algiers and Morocco, and to procure this money wherever we can find it, upon terms like those of the last loan in Holland, our best endeavours shall be used to remove this formidable obstacle out of the way of the prosperity of the United States. Inclosed is a Copy of a Letter from P. R. Randall Esqr. at Barcelona, the last from Mr. Barclay was dated Bayonne. It is hoped we shall soon have news from Algiers and Morocco, and we wish it may not be made more disagreable than this from Tunis and Tripoli. We are &c. J.A. T.J. Tr (DLC); in Smith’s hand; endorsed: “March 28. 1786. Copy from J.A.…T.J. to Jno. Jay.” Tr (DNA: PCC, No. 86); at foot of text: “The aforegoing Letter was taken from a Copy furnished by Mr. Jefferson for the purpose, the original having been communicated to Congress and referred by them to a Committee, which never reported on nor returned it. H. Remsen junr.” Not in SJL. According to Jay’s letter of transmittal to Congress, 23 May 1786, the enclosures were missing (DNA: PCC, No. 80, ii; JCC, xxx, 307, note); see Randall to Commissioners, 17 Feb. 1786. The present letter was read in Congress on 25 May and referred to Jay for a report thereon; Jay’s report, dated 29 May 1786, is in Dipl. Corr., 1783–1789, i, 606–8. Jay expressed confidence in the ministers, suggested that the terms of the treaty with Barbary powers be left to them, and advised against borrowing money for that purpose. 1. Tr reads “profit.” |
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come on,cut the Malarkey! http://founders.archives.gov/documents/Jefferson/01-09-02-0315 American Commissioners to John Jay, 28 March 1786 American Commissioners to John Jay Grosr. Square March 28th. 1786 Sir Soon after the arrival of Mr. J. in London, we had a conference with the Ambassador of Tripoli, at his House. The amount of all the information we can obtain from him was that a perpetual peace was in all respects the most advisable, because a temporary treaty would leave room for increasing demands upon every renewal of it, and a stipulation for annual payments would be liable to failures of performance which would renew the war, repeat the negotiations and continually augment the claims of his nation and the difference of expence would by no means be adequate to the inconvenience, since 12,500 Guineas to his Constituents with 10 pr. Cent upon that sum for himself, must be paid if the treaty was made for only one year. That 30,000 Guineas for his Employers and £3,000 for himself were the lowest terms upon which a perpetual peace could be made and that this must be paid in Cash on the delivery of the treaty signed by his sovereign, that no kind of Merchandizes could be accepted. That Tunis would treat upon the same terms, but he could not answer for Algiers or Morocco. We took the liberty to make some inquiries concerning the Grounds of their pretentions to make war upon Nations who had done them no Injury, and observed that we considered all mankind as our friends who had done us no wrong, nor had given us any provocation. The Ambassador answered us that it was founded on the Laws of their Prophet,1 that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as Prisoners, and that every Musselman who should be slain in battle was sure to go to Paradise. That it was a law that the first who boarded an Enemy’s Vessell should have one slave, more than his share with the rest, which operated as an incentive to the most desperate Valour and Enterprise, that it was the Practice of their Corsairs to bear down upon a ship, for each sailor to take a dagger in each hand and another in his mouth, and leap on board, which so terrified their Enemies that very few ever stood against them, that he verily believed the Devil assisted his Countrymen, for they were almost always successful. We took time to consider and promised an answer, but we can give him no other, than that the demands exceed our Expectations, and that of Congress, so much that we can proceed no further without fresh instructions. There is but one possible way that we know of to procure the money, if Congress should authorize us to go to the necessary expence, and that is to borrow it in Holland. We are not certain it can be had there. But if Congress should order us to make the best terms we can with Tunis, Tripoli, Algiers and Morocco, and to procure this money wherever we can find it, upon terms like those of the last loan in Holland, our best endeavours shall be used to remove this formidable obstacle out of the way of the prosperity of the United States. Inclosed is a Copy of a Letter from P. R. Randall Esqr. at Barcelona, the last from Mr. Barclay was dated Bayonne. It is hoped we shall soon have news from Algiers and Morocco, and we wish it may not be made more disagreable than this from Tunis and Tripoli. We are &c. J.A. T.J. Tr (DLC); in Smith’s hand; endorsed: “March 28. 1786. Copy from J.A.…T.J. to Jno. Jay.” Tr (DNA: PCC, No. 86); at foot of text: “The aforegoing Letter was taken from a Copy furnished by Mr. Jefferson for the purpose, the original having been communicated to Congress and referred by them to a Committee, which never reported on nor returned it. H. Remsen junr.” Not in SJL. According to Jay’s letter of transmittal to Congress, 23 May 1786, the enclosures were missing (DNA: PCC, No. 80, ii; JCC, xxx, 307, note); see Randall to Commissioners, 17 Feb. 1786. The present letter was read in Congress on 25 May and referred to Jay for a report thereon; Jay’s report, dated 29 May 1786, is in Dipl. Corr., 1783–1789, i, 606–8. Jay expressed confidence in the ministers, suggested that the terms of the treaty with Barbary powers be left to them, and advised against borrowing money for that purpose. 1. Tr reads “profit.” Islamic Jihad in 1789? HoodahThunkit? |
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2016/03/22/radicalization-isil-islam-sacred-texts-literal-interpretation-column/81808560/
Americans awoke this morning to another terrorist attack — this time in the Brussels airport and subway. These attacks hit close to home. Many of us have flown through the Brussels airport, just as we have vacationed in Paris and visited San Bernardino. Once again images of the injured flood social media channels, reminding Americans of the ever-present reality that it could have been us. How is this happening? Why are people becoming radicalized, and so close to home? I am concerned how little we in the West understand why peaceful Muslims who live among us are drawn into radical Islam. As a Muslim growing up in the United States, I was taught by my imams and the community around me that Islam is a religion of peace. My family modeled love for others and love for country, and not just by their words. My father served in the U.S. Navy throughout my childhood, starting as a seaman and retiring as a lieutenant commander. I believed wholeheartedly a slogan often repeated at my mosque after 9/11: “The terrorists who hijacked the planes also hijacked Islam.” Yet as I began to investigate the Quran and the traditions of Muhammad’s life for myself in college, I found to my genuine surprise that the pages of Islamic history are filled with violence. How could I reconcile this with what I had always been taught about Islam? In February 2015, the U.S. State Department Acting Spokesperson Marie Harf suggested that a “lack of opportunity for jobs” might be a significant factor in radicalization and terrorism. Alternatively, Suraj Lakhani, a scholar of radicalization in Wales, suggested that the process is driven by religious concerns and a drive to bolster one’s personal identity. He implies that young Muslims ought not be allowed to hear ISIL messages or interact with their recruiters. Naturally, I agree that interacting with ISIL recruiters is a bad idea, but I believe what the recruiters themselves say sheds the most insight on the radicalization process. ISIL’s primary recruiting technique is not social or financial but theological. With frequent references to the highest sources of authority in Islam, the Quran and hadith (the collection of the sayings of the prophet Muhammad), ISIL enjoins upon Muslims their duty to fight against the enemies of Islam and to emigrate to the Islamic State once it has been established. A recent two-page spread in the third issue of ISIL’s propaganda magazine, Dabiq, for instance, appealed to prospective recruits to leave their homeland and emigrate to the Islamic State by quoting a hadith from the canonical collections; it urged them to realize that they are living in times that reflect those of the earliest Muslims by referring to Muhammad’s life; it encouraged them to take a step of faith by quoting the Quran; and it praised them for their obedience by quoting yet another hadith. All four references to the Quran, hadith and the related Sunnah, were on the same two-page spread. Such is the frequency and intensity with which ISIL uses Islam's foundational texts to appeal to potential recruits. As a young Muslim boy growing up in the 1980s and 1990s, it was impossible for me to look up a hadith unless I traveled to an Islamic library, something I would have never thought to do. For all intents and purposes, if I wanted to know about the traditions of Muhammad, I had to ask imams or elders in my tradition of Islam. That is no longer the case today. Just as radical Islamists may spread their message far and wide online, so, too, the Internet has made the traditions of Muhammad readily available for whoever wishes to look them up, even in English. When everyday Muslims investigate the Quran and hadith for themselves, bypassing centuries of tradition and their imams’ interpretations, they are confronted with the reality of violent jihad in the very foundations of their faith. The Quran itself reveals a trajectory of jihad reflected in the almost 23 years of Muhammad’s prophetic career. As I demonstrate carefully in my book, Answering Jihad: A Better Way Forward, starting with peaceful teachings and proclamations of monotheism, Muhammad's message featured violence with increasing intensity, culminating in surah 9, chronologically the last major chapter of the Quran, and its most expansively violent teaching. Throughout history, Muslim theologians have understood and taught this progression, that the message of the Quran culminates in its ninth chapter. Surah 9 is a command to disavow all treaties with polytheists and to subjugate Jews and Christians (9.29) so that Islam may “prevail over all religions” (9.33). It is fair to wonder whether any non-Muslims in the world are immune from being attacked, subdued or assimilated under this command. Muslims must fight, according to this final chapter of the Quran, and if they do not, then their faith is called into question and they are counted among the hypocrites (9.44-45). If they do fight, they are promised one of two rewards, either spoils of war or heaven through martyrdom. Allah has made a bargain with the mujahid who obeys: Kill or be killed in battle, and paradise awaits (9.111). Muslim thought leaders agree that the Quran promotes such violence. Maajid Nawaz, co-founder of the Quilliam Foundation in the United Kingdom, has said, “We Muslims must admit there are challenging Koranic passages that require reinterpretation today. ... Only by rejecting vacuous literalism are we able to condemn, in principle, ISIS-style slavery, beheading, lashing, amputation & other medieval practices forever (all of which are in the Quran). … Reformers either win, and get religion-neutral politics, or lose, and get ISIL-style theocracy.” In other words, Muslims must depart from the literal reading of the Quran in order to create a jihad-free Islamic world. This is not at all to say that most Muslims are violent. The vast majority of Muslims do not live their lives based on chapter 9 of the Quran or on the books of jihad in the hadith. My point is not to question the faith of such Muslims nor to imply that radical Muslims are the true Muslims. Rather, I simply want to make clear that while ISIL may lure youth through a variety of methods, it radicalizes them primarily by urging them to follow the literal teachings of the Quran and the hadith, interpreted consistently and in light of the violent trajectory of early Islam. As long as the Islamic world focuses on its foundational texts, we will continue to see violent jihadi movements. In order to effectively confront radicalization, then, our tools must be similarly ideological, even theological. This is why I suggest that sharing alternative worldviews with Muslims is one of the best methods to address radicalization. Indeed, this is what happened to me. As I faced the reality of the violent traditions of Islam, I had a Christian friend who suggested that Islam did not have to be my only choice and that there were excellent reasons to accept the gospel. As more and more Western Muslims encounter ISIL’s claims and the surprising violence in their own tradition, many will be looking for ways out of the moral quandary this poses for them. We need to be equipped to provide alternatives to violent jihad, alternatives that address the root of why so many Muslims are radicalizing in the first place. Any solution, political or otherwise, that overlooks the spiritual and religious roots of jihad can have only limited effectiveness. Dr. Nabeel Qureshi is a speaker with Ravi Zacharias International Ministries and is the author of Answering Jihad: A Better Way Forward. Follow him on Twitter at @NAQureshi In addition to its own editorials, USA TODAY publishes diverse opinions from outside writers, including our Board of Contributors. To read more columns like this, go to the Opinion front page. 11932 CONNECTTWEET 63 LINKEDIN 280 COMMENTEMAILMORE |
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The Ambassador answered us that it was founded on the Laws of their Prophet,1 that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as Prisoners, and that every Musselman who should be slain in battle was sure to go to Paradise. This is the ideology of Wahhabi and all Jihadi organizations. Non Muslim lives in peace with Muslims in all Islamic countries. For example in Mosul – Iraq there were no problem between Muslims, Yazidi and Christians but when ISIS came to this city they killed from Muslims, Yazidi and Christians, removed historical and heritage inscriptions from the front of Virgin Mary church and the Chaldean church, destroyed a 1,800-year-old Assyrian Christian church, blew up the historical St Mary's church, blew up Abu Bakr mosque (Sunnite mosque) under the pretext of the existence of a tomb inside the mosque, killed prayers and children in the Churches and mosques and ripped women from their families to turn them into sex slaves. |
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The Messenger has believed in what was revealed to him from his Lord, and [so have] the believers. All of them have believed in Allah and His angels and His books and His messengers, [saying], "We make no distinction between any of His messengers." And they say, "We hear and we obey. [We seek] Your forgiveness, our Lord, and to You is the [final] destination." Quran 2;285
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Those messengers - some of them We caused to exceed others. Among them were those to whom Allah spoke, and He raised some of them in degree. And We gave Jesus, the Son of Mary, clear proofs, and We supported him with the Pure Spirit. If Allah had willed, those [generations] succeeding them would not have fought each other after the clear proofs had come to them. But they differed, and some of them believed and some of them disbelieved. And if Allah had willed, they would not have fought each other, but Allah does what He intends.Quran 2;253
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Al-Qaeda, ISIS and all other organizations are not Muslims even they hold the Holy book Quran. They do not obey what Quran say. The fact is they are political movement and Wahhabi terrorists financed by many countries – Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Jordan, Turkey and others. Hillary Clinton: We created Al-Qaeda https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dqn0bm4E9yw Here are eighteen things that practicing, Koran-abiding Muslims believe. They are all part of Islamic Sharia Law. If a “moderate Muslim” won’t renounce Sharia Law, then he is practicing taqiyya, or holy deception against the infidels to spread Islam. Please note number 13. Muslims should kill anyone who insults Islam or Mohammed. (Koran.33;57-61). [33:57] Allah and His angels send blessings on the Prophet. O ye who believe! you also should invoke blessings on him and salute him with the salutation of peace. [33:58] Verily, those who malign Allah and His Messenger — Allah has cursed them in this world and in the Hereafter, and has prepared for them an abasing punishment. [33:59] And those who malign believing men and believing women for what they have not earned shall bear the guilt of a calumny and a manifest sin. [33:60] O Prophet! tell thy wives and thy daughters and the women of the believers that they should draw close to them portions of their loose outer coverings. That is nearer that they may thus be distinguished and not molested. And Allah is Most Forgiving, Merciful. [33:61] If the hypocrites, and those in whose heart is a disease, and those who cause agitation in the city, desist not, We shall surely give thee authority over them; then they will not dwell therein as thy neighbours, save for a little while. |
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Al-Qaeda, ISIS and all other organizations are not Muslims even they hold the Holy book Quran. They do not obey what Quran say. The fact is they are political movement and Wahhabi terrorists financed by many countries – Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Jordan, Turkey and others. Hillary Clinton: We created Al-Qaeda https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dqn0bm4E9yw Here are eighteen things that practicing, Koran-abiding Muslims believe. They are all part of Islamic Sharia Law. If a “moderate Muslim” won’t renounce Sharia Law, then he is practicing taqiyya, or holy deception against the infidels to spread Islam. Please note number 13. Muslims should kill anyone who insults Islam or Mohammed. (Koran.33;57-61). [33:57] Allah and His angels send blessings on the Prophet. O ye who believe! you also should invoke blessings on him and salute him with the salutation of peace. [33:58] Verily, those who malign Allah and His Messenger — Allah has cursed them in this world and in the Hereafter, and has prepared for them an abasing punishment. [33:59] And those who malign believing men and believing women for what they have not earned shall bear the guilt of a calumny and a manifest sin. [33:60] O Prophet! tell thy wives and thy daughters and the women of the believers that they should draw close to them portions of their loose outer coverings. That is nearer that they may thus be distinguished and not molested. And Allah is Most Forgiving, Merciful. [33:61] If the hypocrites, and those in whose heart is a disease, and those who cause agitation in the city, desist not, We shall surely give thee authority over them; then they will not dwell therein as thy neighbours, save for a little while. 
They have been up to those tricks 1400years before anyone heard of Wahhab and Saudi Arabia or DAESH! |
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About {Raping wives is okay for Muslim husbands. (Koran.2;223).}
Verses are about relation with wives: Where is RAPING? (2:222) They ask you about menstruation. Say: “It is a state of impurity; so keep away from women in the state of menstruation, and do not approach them until they are cleansed. And when they are cleansed. (2:223) Your wives are your tilth; go, then, into your tilth as you wish but take heed of your ultimate future and avoid incurring the wrath of Allah. Know well that one Day you shall face Him. Announce good tidings to the believers. |
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About {Raping wives is okay for Muslim husbands. (Koran.2;223).} Verses are about relation with wives: Where is RAPING? (2:222) They ask you about menstruation. Say: “It is a state of impurity; so keep away from women in the state of menstruation, and do not approach them until they are cleansed. And when they are cleansed. (2:223) Your wives are your tilth; go, then, into your tilth as you wish but take heed of your ultimate future and avoid incurring the wrath of Allah. Know well that one Day you shall face Him. Announce good tidings to the believers. avoiding the violent Medina-Content,ain't we? |
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About: Muslims should behead non-Muslims. (Koran.47;4).
Swords and spears were the weapons at that time. The Swedish army of 1700-1721 was probably the last army where every soldier was equipped with a sword. During the Medieval period, half-sword fighting was the primary method of fighting between two armored opponents. Every army encourages soldiers and officer to fight the enemy. This verse encourages men to fight in the battle. Quran 47;4: So when you meet those who disbelieve [in battle], strike [their] necks until, when you have inflicted slaughter upon them, then secure their bonds, and either [confer] favor afterwards or ransom [them] until the war lays down its burdens. That [is the command]. And if Allah had willed, He could have taken vengeance upon them [Himself], but [He ordered armed struggle] to test some of you by means of others. And those who are killed in the cause of Allah - never will He waste their deeds. |
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Saying you're a Christian, but not living like a Christian, doesn't make you a Christian.
Same goes for all other religions. Though IS/ISIS/Hezbollah/Taliban/AlQaidah claim to be participants of the Islam, I can assure you they are not. Because any human who claims to be above God and judge, kill, demolish, terrorize another human being, country or such is not a religious person/group. Its a s simple as that. It is funny and amazing to read how times have changed. In the civil war in Ireland, between the protestants and the catholics, never once did I read (as a child) IRA "name of religion" terrorists. They were just called terrorists. But now since other terrorist groups say to kill and punish in the name of, we call them by their religion. Shameful. A terrorist group is just a terrorist group and we should use the name of religion they use to justify their actions to spread more chaos and divided hatred, simply because it's not the religious (christian, catholic, islamic, buddist, hinduist, jewish, atheist) thing to do! Ya'll need to do some soulsearching, some world traveling and such! Don't buy into the hype the news, the papers, the groups of terror, your government is trying to sell you. Educate yourself and search for the knowledge and truth yourself! Oh, and before you start calling me names of come out your mouth: Im the only Christian in my Islamic family and we are all living happily ever after with each other! They've accepted the path that I've chosen and I love being a Christian. |
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Saying you're a Christian, but not living like a Christian, doesn't make you a Christian. Same goes for all other religions. Though IS/ISIS/Hezbollah/Taliban/AlQaidah claim to be participants of the Islam, I can assure you they are not. Because any human who claims to be above God and judge, kill, demolish, terrorize another human being, country or such is not a religious person/group. Its a s simple as that. It is funny and amazing to read how times have changed. In the civil war in Ireland, between the protestants and the catholics, never once did I read (as a child) IRA "name of religion" terrorists. They were just called terrorists. But now since other terrorist groups say to kill and punish in the name of, we call them by their religion. Shameful. A terrorist group is just a terrorist group and we should use the name of religion they use to justify their actions to spread more chaos and divided hatred, simply because it's not the religious (christian, catholic, islamic, buddist, hinduist, jewish, atheist) thing to do! Ya'll need to do some soulsearching, some world traveling and such! Don't buy into the hype the news, the papers, the groups of terror, your government is trying to sell you. Educate yourself and search for the knowledge and truth yourself! Oh, and before you start calling me names of come out your mouth: Im the only Christian in my Islamic family and we are all living happily ever after with each other! They've accepted the path that I've chosen and I love being a Christian. yep,go try that in Pakistan,or any of the other strictly Muslim Countries! |
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Saying you're a Christian, but not living like a Christian, doesn't make you a Christian. Same goes for all other religions. Though IS/ISIS/Hezbollah/Taliban/AlQaidah claim to be participants of the Islam, I can assure you they are not. Because any human who claims to be above God and judge, kill, demolish, terrorize another human being, country or such is not a religious person/group. Its a s simple as that. It is funny and amazing to read how times have changed. In the civil war in Ireland, between the protestants and the catholics, never once did I read (as a child) IRA "name of religion" terrorists. They were just called terrorists. But now since other terrorist groups say to kill and punish in the name of, we call them by their religion. Shameful. A terrorist group is just a terrorist group and we should use the name of religion they use to justify their actions to spread more chaos and divided hatred, simply because it's not the religious (christian, catholic, islamic, buddist, hinduist, jewish, atheist) thing to do! Ya'll need to do some soulsearching, some world traveling and such! Don't buy into the hype the news, the papers, the groups of terror, your government is trying to sell you. Educate yourself and search for the knowledge and truth yourself! Oh, and before you start calling me names of come out your mouth: Im the only Christian in my Islamic family and we are all living happily ever after with each other! They've accepted the path that I've chosen and I love being a Christian. Thank you for your post. You said the real fact. However some people know this fact but close their eyes and minds and mix between terrorist groups and religion. |
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Saying you're a Christian, but not living like a Christian, doesn't make you a Christian. Same goes for all other religions. Though IS/ISIS/Hezbollah/Taliban/AlQaidah claim to be participants of the Islam, I can assure you they are not. Because any human who claims to be above God and judge, kill, demolish, terrorize another human being, country or such is not a religious person/group. Its a s simple as that. It is funny and amazing to read how times have changed. In the civil war in Ireland, between the protestants and the catholics, never once did I read (as a child) IRA "name of religion" terrorists. They were just called terrorists. But now since other terrorist groups say to kill and punish in the name of, we call them by their religion. Shameful. A terrorist group is just a terrorist group and we should use the name of religion they use to justify their actions to spread more chaos and divided hatred, simply because it's not the religious (christian, catholic, islamic, buddist, hinduist, jewish, atheist) thing to do! Ya'll need to do some soulsearching, some world traveling and such! Don't buy into the hype the news, the papers, the groups of terror, your government is trying to sell you. Educate yourself and search for the knowledge and truth yourself! Oh, and before you start calling me names of come out your mouth: Im the only Christian in my Islamic family and we are all living happily ever after with each other! They've accepted the path that I've chosen and I love being a Christian. Thank you for your post. You said the real fact. However some people know this fact but close their eyes and minds and mix between terrorist groups and religion. so,they are Mormon then,not Muslim? Remember what The Prophet did to the People of Medina who graciously accepted him and his as a Refugee? ISIS acting exactly the way Muhammad acted when he started to throw his weight around,and began to murder People in Medina! He set a nice precedent,and you can't blame Wahhabism for that! straight from the Mouth of the Prophet! http://www.jihadwatch.org/islam-101 So,BTW,the Clerics in Tehran are Wahhabi too then,since they act in the same Fashion? |
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Saying you're a Christian, but not living like a Christian, doesn't make you a Christian. Same goes for all other religions. Though IS/ISIS/Hezbollah/Taliban/AlQaidah claim to be participants of the Islam, I can assure you they are not. Because any human who claims to be above God and judge, kill, demolish, terrorize another human being, country or such is not a religious person/group. Its a s simple as that. It is funny and amazing to read how times have changed. In the civil war in Ireland, between the protestants and the catholics, never once did I read (as a child) IRA "name of religion" terrorists. They were just called terrorists. But now since other terrorist groups say to kill and punish in the name of, we call them by their religion. Shameful. A terrorist group is just a terrorist group and we should use the name of religion they use to justify their actions to spread more chaos and divided hatred, simply because it's not the religious (christian, catholic, islamic, buddist, hinduist, jewish, atheist) thing to do! Ya'll need to do some soulsearching, some world traveling and such! Don't buy into the hype the news, the papers, the groups of terror, your government is trying to sell you. Educate yourself and search for the knowledge and truth yourself! Oh, and before you start calling me names of come out your mouth: Im the only Christian in my Islamic family and we are all living happily ever after with each other! They've accepted the path that I've chosen and I love being a Christian. Thank you for your post. You said the real fact. However some people know this fact but close their eyes and minds and mix between terrorist groups and religion. so,they are Mormon then,not Muslim? Remember what The Prophet did to the People of Medina who graciously accepted him and his as a Refugee? ISIS acting exactly the way Muhammad acted when he started to throw his weight around,and began to murder People in Medina! He set a nice precedent,and you can't blame Wahhabism for that! straight from the Mouth of the Prophet! http://www.jihadwatch.org/islam-101 So,BTW,the Clerics in Tehran are Wahhabi too then,since they act in the same Fashion? liberals always trying to spin things... so i'm guessing they are not chopping peoples heads off in the name of allah? i also seem to remember lots of heads rolling during the Iraqi war, were they not muslims either? |
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The difference ?one uses c4 the other one Dynamite....oops.. a little off topic the ones that use c4 are the American sponsored ones... 
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The difference ?one uses c4 the other one Dynamite....oops.. a little off topic
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Saying you're a Christian, but not living like a Christian, doesn't make you a Christian. Same goes for all other religions. Though IS/ISIS/Hezbollah/Taliban/AlQaidah claim to be participants of the Islam, I can assure you they are not. Because any human who claims to be above God and judge, kill, demolish, terrorize another human being, country or such is not a religious person/group. Its a s simple as that. It is funny and amazing to read how times have changed. In the civil war in Ireland, between the protestants and the catholics, never once did I read (as a child) IRA "name of religion" terrorists. They were just called terrorists. But now since other terrorist groups say to kill and punish in the name of, we call them by their religion. Shameful. A terrorist group is just a terrorist group and we should use the name of religion they use to justify their actions to spread more chaos and divided hatred, simply because it's not the religious (christian, catholic, islamic, buddist, hinduist, jewish, atheist) thing to do! Ya'll need to do some soulsearching, some world traveling and such! Don't buy into the hype the news, the papers, the groups of terror, your government is trying to sell you. Educate yourself and search for the knowledge and truth yourself! Oh, and before you start calling me names of come out your mouth: Im the only Christian in my Islamic family and we are all living happily ever after with each other! They've accepted the path that I've chosen and I love being a Christian. I only wish people would unite around such loving hearts in every religion as the example, instead of insistence on focusing on the hateful and deadly 
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Saying you're a Christian, but not living like a Christian, doesn't make you a Christian. Same goes for all other religions. Though IS/ISIS/Hezbollah/Taliban/AlQaidah claim to be participants of the Islam, I can assure you they are not. Because any human who claims to be above God and judge, kill, demolish, terrorize another human being, country or such is not a religious person/group. Its a s simple as that. It is funny and amazing to read how times have changed. In the civil war in Ireland, between the protestants and the catholics, never once did I read (as a child) IRA "name of religion" terrorists. They were just called terrorists. But now since other terrorist groups say to kill and punish in the name of, we call them by their religion. Shameful. A terrorist group is just a terrorist group and we should use the name of religion they use to justify their actions to spread more chaos and divided hatred, simply because it's not the religious (christian, catholic, islamic, buddist, hinduist, jewish, atheist) thing to do! Ya'll need to do some soulsearching, some world traveling and such! Don't buy into the hype the news, the papers, the groups of terror, your government is trying to sell you. Educate yourself and search for the knowledge and truth yourself! Oh, and before you start calling me names of come out your mouth: Im the only Christian in my Islamic family and we are all living happily ever after with each other! They've accepted the path that I've chosen and I love being a Christian. I only wish people would unite around such loving hearts in every religion as the example, instead of insistence on focusing on the hateful and deadly
the "loving hearts" aren't the ones that are chopping people heads off... |
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