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Topic: "When it comes to break ups; guys have it worse"
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Sat 10/27/07 06:02 PM
"When it comes to break ups; guys have it worse"

Do you agree with this statement?
I heard it recently and the justification to it was:
"How often do you hear men committing suicide over a girl?...how often do you hear women doing the same thing?"

I guess by that justification its true, but i think women tear themselves up in other ways which in my opinion, kinda makes it worse than death.


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Sat 10/27/07 06:07 PM
lol really??
I havent read anything of herslaugh
interesting!

nurjoyce's photo
Sat 10/27/07 06:08 PM
well, i am not sure i agree--
guess it depends

Totage's photo
Sat 10/27/07 06:10 PM
I both men and women have it equal. It depends on which factor you are comparing.

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Sat 10/27/07 06:15 PM
I don't think it's a gender thing at all. I think it varies depending on the specific relationship, the people, the circumstances.

Men are still conditioned (in this society, anyway) not to talk about things like thoughts of suicide over a broken relationship. It's still seen as a "weakness" in many circles. But I have friends of both sexes who have been there, and one or two of them have made serious attempts.

I'm not going to lie to you -- after I lost the one person I truly loved, I thought about it myself. I figured out the best way to do it, and I was about 5 minutes away from going through with it. And I didn't. And I still don't know why.

That's one reason I try not to overgeneralize or stereotype on this stuff. Because everybody is different, and lumping one group together -- by gender, age, location, race, whatever -- only makes it harder to see each situation as unique.

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Sat 10/27/07 06:17 PM
i dont think thats true..me and this guy i was dating just broke up and hes already dating someone else..guess he wont be commiting susicide..LOL..noway

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Sat 10/27/07 06:20 PM
NEVER EVER should anyone consider commiting an act of stupidity for any reason. That is the most selfish thing you can do.

wouldee's photo
Sat 10/27/07 06:20 PM
we commit financial suicide every day in sunny California!! With no fault divorce and spousal support and predominantly alienated from our children ( i got lucky there, but it damn near cost me my life and complete absence from my kids), clipped to the tune of 6-800 bucks/mo. per child in child support, and irrespective of the behavior and bad habits of the mother. Please ladies, don't bust my chops on this. We're not all bad. Women here have learned how to twist up the system for their short term benefit, and play the game to the hilt. All too often, the guys are busy working, coming home exhausted from slaying dragons and find no comfort except in the solitude offered by quiet indifference. This is all too often viewed as cold and insensitive behavior. Guys have it rough....no doubt...and we sure don't have any allies on this one.

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Sat 10/27/07 06:33 PM
I stand corrected. THXglasses

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Sat 10/27/07 06:34 PM
on the nail chopper dan,
Thats almost exactly the same thing my best friend said to me when I subtley brought up the suicide concept to him when I was thinking about it.
One of the things that stopped me :smile:

heaps of great insight coming in here! top notch!

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Sat 10/27/07 06:39 PM
there are some women who are stable with finaces-- i work with a lot of them, we end up with the "raw end" also. what about lack of child support? etc

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Sat 10/27/07 06:39 PM
I have had several freinds commit that selfish act and it hurts cause they are gone and now I have to go on. I miss them so much.

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Sat 10/27/07 06:41 PM
noway wouldee, slaying dragons, slaying dragonsnoway Be kind to me man, I did not do it...lol..j/k.bigsmile

My perspective is this: the reason men take break-ups harder is because most men stay in a relationship until they can one up the one their with sooo....if she leaves before he can do that he cannot seem to handle the loss of control and possesion. Where women are just designed to tolerate emotional stress at a deeper level than men are.

Just MY opinion.

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Sat 10/27/07 06:47 PM
I think it depends on the individual situation and people. But, I do think suicide is a very selfish act, or maybe I should say unthinking. :cry:

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Sat 10/27/07 06:53 PM
dragoness...you're far too cute, much more appealing than your ordinary wounded scorpion!!laugh laugh laugh I hope we don't have any of those in here....I haven't tested my block user button yet!!bigsmile JOYCE!!! me too....supposed to get it and rarely do. Sometimes it bounces and I get nicked $40.oo!! I am very sympathetic to the needs and demands on full time single parents, male and female. I've been doing it for 13 years. Counting college years ahead for my youngest, I've got 8 more to go...minimum!!! My daughter is in college now. 2-3 yrs more there. Can't wait for Spring and can go racing again and not be consumed with these lonely weekends. OOPs.. i whined. laugh laugh laugh :heart: smokin drinker bigsmile i just love these little cartoons!

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Sat 10/27/07 06:55 PM
Well let me tell ya women ain't the only ones to get screwed with child support......

I have 3 kids....and she is sposed to pay a whopping $27.75 a month......now how is that fair?


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Sat 10/27/07 06:59 PM
all i am saying is it goes both ways-- guys have it no harder than women!!

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Sat 10/27/07 07:02 PM
yes suicide is completely selfish but when you're in that state of mind you have tunnel vision on your problems so you cant focus.

Its a terrible tragedy, they drive themselves to suicide.

nurjoyce's photo
Sat 10/27/07 07:03 PM
all i want is my ex to be a great parent to his kids- be around when they need their dad- and not fight me on every issue regarding the kids----which he does! and i appreciate it.
the $ is the least important so why fight it?

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Sat 10/27/07 07:17 PM
E-machine! It takes years to get over the loss ,any betrayal, years invested in a common goal that vanishes in an instant and time and direction becomes a new thing to consider on top of the mess! Stay busy and remember the kids. No matter what, be there for them and listen to them and love them. Stay focused on their hearts and be mature about all the crap they have to tolerate now. Staying connected to the kids will keep them around when they're grown. Try and avoid pissing matches wherever possible. The kids!! and you!!! Take care of yourself!!! It takes time to move forward without the distraction of being pulled apart at the seams. Life will get better. It just sucks for the moment til you sort out your next path!!glasses

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