Today i saw a certain family that shoped alot of things to their home. I have seem people buy new clothes. And paint their houses new paint. So thats were i take my question. Is that the right way to spend christmas?

If people reject God's existence and/or reject Jesus as Messiah, then they have no reason to celebrate Christmas in the first place.

pretty sure there are plenty of folks in this country and around the world that celebrate Christmas who may not consider themselves Christians..

but by all means turn this into a finger pointing we are better than you are post on religious principles because Lord knows there aren't enough of those on here already and gee wilikers don't that just tie into the true meaning of giving


have a Merry Christmas

Ridiculous, it is also an honored tradition, passed
through many generations, Americana as it were.

oh in answer to the OP's question
when my kids were younger we would make a small little birthday cake for the baby Jesus and tonight would be their Christmas program at church
come home and watch their favorites like Charlie Brown Christmas or even Christmas Vacation
then in morning Santa would have brought them gifts
and filled their stockings with toys and candy
home made cinnamon rolls
big Christmas dinner
and gifts to open

A: Very carefully.

I'm a pagan, not religious, I do celebrate Christmas.
Christmas is basically nicked from the pagans, who had Yule (Dec 21st) and church couldn't stop ppl from celebrating their pagan feast. The Christmas tree was the Yule tree. Can't remember where that tradition came from, but quite sure it was pagan ritual.
So they invented Jesus' birth on Dec 25th so they could distract attention from Yule to the new date.
If memory serves, Jesus was born somewhere in January.

To me Christmas is about love, peace and respect. I actually thought that was the general Christmas spirit to begin with ...

So to me that means that everyone and anyone can celebrate it. Maybe if we were all less @n@l about such things, we'd get somewhere as human beings.

Love, peace and respect and Merry Christmas!

I am Christian but I don't celebrate holidays for my belief. I do it for tradition. I believe in celebrating my belief everyday and not just one day the Catholic church picked out.

As for the OP's question... people spend Christmas with family or friends when they can. The idea is to enjoy being together, eating together having a good time.
So yes, you need shopping, food and presents for your loved ones. And yes, many buy nice, new clothes. Just like what Muslims do on Idul Fitri (or Eid al-Fitr in Arabic).
So what's the big deal?

If people aren't celebrating the birth of Messiah Jesus, then exactly what are they celebrating?

Family, tradition, seeing the kids have fun .....

Jesus wasn't born on December 25. CrystalFairy is right. The reason for the season was for the church to push out paganism. I celebrate my belief everyday and not just one day picked by the Catholic church. They didn't do it to celebrate Christ's birth. They did it to push out the pagan holiday and used Christ's birth as an excuse

You are right. Nowhere does the bible say when Christ was born, but there are strong indications he was born late September/early October. The rebirth of the sun has been celebrated thousands of years before Christ. This pagan celebration has been blended into Christianity over hundred's of years. Starting at the Council of Nicaea 325 AD

I could not disagree more with either of this posts.

For one thing Christmas is not just a Christian holiday but a season for many religions to reach out to others in friendship, kindness, celebration, and sharing. It is a repetion of tradition and a rededication to families and generosity and happiness'. I have seen mortal enemies lay down their war efforts and even try to reflect and find peace.

Jesus's birth is celebrated not only by the Christian religion but to some degree that of a learned leader of faith in several religions. Those that seek to see how inter faith ministry works would better understand the concept which would be a lengthy conversation as each of several religions view him but many still respect him.

But I see no problem with observing the holiday season with storing in nicer clothes, home furnishings, and even painting and maintaining what the faithful have been able to acquire and often share in their families and communities. Is it not custom to prepare and renew when ever new life comes into the family? I personally love celebrating hope that Jesus's birth signifies to our family and I try to do something every year to reflect that love an hope in my home. I may add a bed for guests or the downtrodden, prepare food, and yes even light up and paint my home in hope and determination that God is not dead in the world but being reborn each season.

If it is the blessing of leading good and responsible lives that they can take a holiday then what better way to promote it as a good and viable lifestyle. Faith does not mean living in darkness and misery. If you read the Bible you see many instances of the faithful flourishing. Being faithful in the Christian church does not mean living in punishment only that you do not lie, cheat, steal, or covet other's blessings and that you have grace enough to tithe to those who need it. If church is at church or starts in the home or is and extension of church I don't undertand being jealous or judgmental about abundance. One of god's promises is abundance.

And for many it is the only time that they can have time away from demanding work schedules. Sometimes that is related to being after harvest and going into the winter season but for some it is eaven a summer vacation. But winter is often a time of not working or having less work and just because someone has held back for winter does not mean they are doing anything wrong.

Either way it has become a worldwide holiday in one form or another and if it means people being nicer and happier I am all for it. Maybe if more saw the Christmas season as a move towards world peace it would be less to debate about it .

Commerce! What else would you celebrate in a capitalist society?

Hi,does anyone know what date Christ was born???I can't seem to find "December 25 NO WHERE in the bible,so it doesn't mean nothing to me(Xmas)

I don't think anybody knows exactly when he was born. I have read a few articles that point to him being born sometime around late September/early October.

Thanks alot!

If Jesus Christ wasn’t born on December 25, does the Bible indicate when He was born?

The biblical accounts point to the fall of the year as the most likely time of Jesus’ birth, based on the conception and birth of John the Baptist.

Since Elizabeth (John’s mother) was in her sixth month of pregnancy when Jesus was conceived (Luke 1:24-36

), we can determine the approximate time of year Jesus was born if we know when John was born. John’s father, Zacharias, was a priest serving in the Jerusalem temple during the course of Abijah (Luke 1:5

). Historical calculations indicate this course of service corresponded to June 13-19 in that year ( The Companion Bible, 1974, Appendix 179, p. 200).

It was during this time of temple service that Zacharias learned that he and his wife Elizabeth would have a child (Luke 1:8-13

). After he completed his service and traveled home, Elizabeth conceived (Luke 1:23-24

). Assuming John’s conception took place near the end of June, adding nine months brings us to the end of March as the most likely time for John’s birth. Adding another six months (the difference in ages between John and Jesus) brings us to the end of September as the likely time of Jesus’ birth.

thank you everyone that has commented on here.
It brought light......you people are such amazing.
Thank you alot.......surely i had never took time to think through when jesus was born.

thanks alot for the enlightment