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The "story" is that only a tiny percentage of the Muslims are radical. But when the word gets out that Americans, Israelites, or some other western persons, buildings, planes, or site of terrorism was attacked, video of crowds in the streets of various Muslim countries are shown cheering. Those crowds were cheering in a Turkish stadium during the "moment of silence" for the recent attack on Paris. That "tiny" percentage appears to not be so tiny. so, three 'facts' are alleged 1. word gout out that people were attacked 2. there is video of crowds in the streets of 'muslim' countries cheering 3 the crowds in the streets of the muslim countries are cheering in A TURKISH STADIUM during a 'moment of silence' for attack on paris questions 1. the word has been out since the event, at which point since then were these crowds cheering? 2. what is the evidence that the video of the muslims was in response to that word? 3. were they cheering in muslim countries or in a stadium? 4. did they cheer when news of the event got out or during a sporting event that included a moment of silence? you should ask the muslims that were cheering... for me, i would rather have my doubts about muslims and hope i'm wrong rather than have no doubts and be wrong... so if I see a group of white folks beating up a black man at a Trump event, should I assume that is the norm amongst white folks, or maybe a smaller (radical) portion of the group? is that specific group representative of billions? not sure what you're trying to say here... blacks are still blaming all whites for everything, when it it a small few that do things that hurt blacks... |
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The "story" is that only a tiny percentage of the Muslims are radical. But when the word gets out that Americans, Israelites, or some other western persons, buildings, planes, or site of terrorism was attacked, video of crowds in the streets of various Muslim countries are shown cheering. Those crowds were cheering in a Turkish stadium during the "moment of silence" for the recent attack on Paris. That "tiny" percentage appears to not be so tiny. so, three 'facts' are alleged 1. word gout out that people were attacked 2. there is video of crowds in the streets of 'muslim' countries cheering 3 the crowds in the streets of the muslim countries are cheering in A TURKISH STADIUM during a 'moment of silence' for attack on paris questions 1. the word has been out since the event, at which point since then were these crowds cheering? 2. what is the evidence that the video of the muslims was in response to that word? 3. were they cheering in muslim countries or in a stadium? 4. did they cheer when news of the event got out or during a sporting event that included a moment of silence? you should ask the muslims that were cheering... for me, i would rather have my doubts about muslims and hope i'm wrong rather than have no doubts and be wrong... so if I see a group of white folks beating up a black man at a Trump event, should I assume that is the norm amongst white folks, or maybe a smaller (radical) portion of the group? is that specific group representative of billions? not sure what you're trying to say here... blacks are still blaming all whites for everything, when it it a small few that do things that hurt blacks... yes'some' of everyone does some of everything and its probably those same who think 'all whites' are <inject adjective here> have a significant crossover with those who think muslims are <insert negative descriptor here> but Im asking more specifically and subjectively about whether anyone HERE is following that same line of logic..specifically those referring to a VIDEO of people at a sporting event who were muslim as justification for believing what the character of the larger muslim population is ,,, I do not,, for instance, ,,,, |
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The "story" is that only a tiny percentage of the Muslims are radical. But when the word gets out that Americans, Israelites, or some other western persons, buildings, planes, or site of terrorism was attacked, video of crowds in the streets of various Muslim countries are shown cheering. Those crowds were cheering in a Turkish stadium during the "moment of silence" for the recent attack on Paris. That "tiny" percentage appears to not be so tiny. so, three 'facts' are alleged 1. word gout out that people were attacked 2. there is video of crowds in the streets of 'muslim' countries cheering 3 the crowds in the streets of the muslim countries are cheering in A TURKISH STADIUM during a 'moment of silence' for attack on paris questions 1. the word has been out since the event, at which point since then were these crowds cheering? 2. what is the evidence that the video of the muslims was in response to that word? 3. were they cheering in muslim countries or in a stadium? 4. did they cheer when news of the event got out or during a sporting event that included a moment of silence? you should ask the muslims that were cheering... for me, i would rather have my doubts about muslims and hope i'm wrong rather than have no doubts and be wrong... so if I see a group of white folks beating up a black man at a Trump event, should I assume that is the norm amongst white folks, or maybe a smaller (radical) portion of the group? is that specific group representative of billions? not sure what you're trying to say here... blacks are still blaming all whites for everything, when it it a small few that do things that hurt blacks... yes'some' of everyone does some of everything and its probably those same who think 'all whites' are <inject adjective here> have a significant crossover with those who think muslims are <insert negative descriptor here> but Im asking more specifically and subjectively about whether anyone HERE is following that same line of logic..specifically those referring to a VIDEO of people at a sporting event who were muslim as justification for believing what the character of the larger muslim population is ,,, I do not,, for instance, ,,,, did you watch that video Issac posted? that pretty much answered your question... |
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The "story" is that only a tiny percentage of the Muslims are radical. But when the word gets out that Americans, Israelites, or some other western persons, buildings, planes, or site of terrorism was attacked, video of crowds in the streets of various Muslim countries are shown cheering. Those crowds were cheering in a Turkish stadium during the "moment of silence" for the recent attack on Paris. That "tiny" percentage appears to not be so tiny. so, three 'facts' are alleged 1. word gout out that people were attacked 2. there is video of crowds in the streets of 'muslim' countries cheering 3 the crowds in the streets of the muslim countries are cheering in A TURKISH STADIUM during a 'moment of silence' for attack on paris questions 1. the word has been out since the event, at which point since then were these crowds cheering? 2. what is the evidence that the video of the muslims was in response to that word? 3. were they cheering in muslim countries or in a stadium? 4. did they cheer when news of the event got out or during a sporting event that included a moment of silence? you should ask the muslims that were cheering... for me, i would rather have my doubts about muslims and hope i'm wrong rather than have no doubts and be wrong... so if I see a group of white folks beating up a black man at a Trump event, should I assume that is the norm amongst white folks, or maybe a smaller (radical) portion of the group? is that specific group representative of billions? not sure what you're trying to say here... blacks are still blaming all whites for everything, when it it a small few that do things that hurt blacks... yes'some' of everyone does some of everything and its probably those same who think 'all whites' are <inject adjective here> have a significant crossover with those who think muslims are <insert negative descriptor here> but Im asking more specifically and subjectively about whether anyone HERE is following that same line of logic..specifically those referring to a VIDEO of people at a sporting event who were muslim as justification for believing what the character of the larger muslim population is ,,, I do not,, for instance, ,,,, did you watch that video Issac posted? that pretty much answered your question... unless its a verified video of billions of muslims all cheering specifically at the moment the attack is announced than, no, it doesnt,,,, |
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The "story" is that only a tiny percentage of the Muslims are radical. But when the word gets out that Americans, Israelites, or some other western persons, buildings, planes, or site of terrorism was attacked, video of crowds in the streets of various Muslim countries are shown cheering. Those crowds were cheering in a Turkish stadium during the "moment of silence" for the recent attack on Paris. That "tiny" percentage appears to not be so tiny. so, three 'facts' are alleged 1. word gout out that people were attacked 2. there is video of crowds in the streets of 'muslim' countries cheering 3 the crowds in the streets of the muslim countries are cheering in A TURKISH STADIUM during a 'moment of silence' for attack on paris questions 1. the word has been out since the event, at which point since then were these crowds cheering? 2. what is the evidence that the video of the muslims was in response to that word? 3. were they cheering in muslim countries or in a stadium? 4. did they cheer when news of the event got out or during a sporting event that included a moment of silence? you should ask the muslims that were cheering... for me, i would rather have my doubts about muslims and hope i'm wrong rather than have no doubts and be wrong... so if I see a group of white folks beating up a black man at a Trump event, should I assume that is the norm amongst white folks, or maybe a smaller (radical) portion of the group? is that specific group representative of billions? not sure what you're trying to say here... blacks are still blaming all whites for everything, when it it a small few that do things that hurt blacks... yes'some' of everyone does some of everything and its probably those same who think 'all whites' are <inject adjective here> have a significant crossover with those who think muslims are <insert negative descriptor here> but Im asking more specifically and subjectively about whether anyone HERE is following that same line of logic..specifically those referring to a VIDEO of people at a sporting event who were muslim as justification for believing what the character of the larger muslim population is ,,, I do not,, for instance, ,,,, did you watch that video Issac posted? that pretty much answered your question... unless its a verified video of billions of muslims all cheering specifically at the moment the attack is announced than, no, it doesnt,,,, so you haven't watched it? |
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The "story" is that only a tiny percentage of the Muslims are radical. But when the word gets out that Americans, Israelites, or some other western persons, buildings, planes, or site of terrorism was attacked, video of crowds in the streets of various Muslim countries are shown cheering. Those crowds were cheering in a Turkish stadium during the "moment of silence" for the recent attack on Paris. That "tiny" percentage appears to not be so tiny. so, three 'facts' are alleged 1. word gout out that people were attacked 2. there is video of crowds in the streets of 'muslim' countries cheering 3 the crowds in the streets of the muslim countries are cheering in A TURKISH STADIUM during a 'moment of silence' for attack on paris questions 1. the word has been out since the event, at which point since then were these crowds cheering? 2. what is the evidence that the video of the muslims was in response to that word? 3. were they cheering in muslim countries or in a stadium? 4. did they cheer when news of the event got out or during a sporting event that included a moment of silence? you should ask the muslims that were cheering... for me, i would rather have my doubts about muslims and hope i'm wrong rather than have no doubts and be wrong... so if I see a group of white folks beating up a black man at a Trump event, should I assume that is the norm amongst white folks, or maybe a smaller (radical) portion of the group? is that specific group representative of billions? not sure what you're trying to say here... blacks are still blaming all whites for everything, when it it a small few that do things that hurt blacks... yes'some' of everyone does some of everything and its probably those same who think 'all whites' are <inject adjective here> have a significant crossover with those who think muslims are <insert negative descriptor here> but Im asking more specifically and subjectively about whether anyone HERE is following that same line of logic..specifically those referring to a VIDEO of people at a sporting event who were muslim as justification for believing what the character of the larger muslim population is ,,, I do not,, for instance, ,,,, did you watch that video Issac posted? that pretty much answered your question... unless its a verified video of billions of muslims all cheering specifically at the moment the attack is announced than, no, it doesnt,,,, so you haven't watched it? no, for the reasons noted above common sense says we can find such videos about members of ANY group, there are terrible people who enjoy others pain in every group thats kind of the point of my question does the existence of some of those people on a video serve as proof of the character of the entire demographic they happen to belong to? |
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The "story" is that only a tiny percentage of the Muslims are radical. But when the word gets out that Americans, Israelites, or some other western persons, buildings, planes, or site of terrorism was attacked, video of crowds in the streets of various Muslim countries are shown cheering. Those crowds were cheering in a Turkish stadium during the "moment of silence" for the recent attack on Paris. That "tiny" percentage appears to not be so tiny. so, three 'facts' are alleged 1. word gout out that people were attacked 2. there is video of crowds in the streets of 'muslim' countries cheering 3 the crowds in the streets of the muslim countries are cheering in A TURKISH STADIUM during a 'moment of silence' for attack on paris questions 1. the word has been out since the event, at which point since then were these crowds cheering? 2. what is the evidence that the video of the muslims was in response to that word? 3. were they cheering in muslim countries or in a stadium? 4. did they cheer when news of the event got out or during a sporting event that included a moment of silence? you should ask the muslims that were cheering... for me, i would rather have my doubts about muslims and hope i'm wrong rather than have no doubts and be wrong... so if I see a group of white folks beating up a black man at a Trump event, should I assume that is the norm amongst white folks, or maybe a smaller (radical) portion of the group? is that specific group representative of billions? not sure what you're trying to say here... blacks are still blaming all whites for everything, when it it a small few that do things that hurt blacks... yes'some' of everyone does some of everything and its probably those same who think 'all whites' are <inject adjective here> have a significant crossover with those who think muslims are <insert negative descriptor here> but Im asking more specifically and subjectively about whether anyone HERE is following that same line of logic..specifically those referring to a VIDEO of people at a sporting event who were muslim as justification for believing what the character of the larger muslim population is ,,, I do not,, for instance, ,,,, did you watch that video Issac posted? that pretty much answered your question... unless its a verified video of billions of muslims all cheering specifically at the moment the attack is announced than, no, it doesnt,,,, so you haven't watched it? no, for the reasons noted above common sense says we can find such videos about members of ANY group, there are terrible people who enjoy others pain in every group thats kind of the point of my question does the existence of some of those people on a video serve as proof of the character of the entire demographic they happen to belong to? just take 5 minutes out of your life and watch it... it actually agrees with what you're saying, while showing a different perspective on all peoples that hate... |
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perhaps at a later time,, despite the lack of interest, it happens that my audio isnt working anyway
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mightymoe
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Thu 11/26/15 11:18 AM
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perhaps at a later time,, despite the lack of interest, it happens that my audio isnt working anyway yea, ok... you'll need to hear it... |
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The "story" is that only a tiny percentage of the Muslims are radical. But when the word gets out that Americans, Israelites, or some other western persons, buildings, planes, or site of terrorism was attacked, video of crowds in the streets of various Muslim countries are shown cheering. Those crowds were cheering in a Turkish stadium during the "moment of silence" for the recent attack on Paris. That "tiny" percentage appears to not be so tiny. so, three 'facts' are alleged 1. word gout out that people were attacked 2. there is video of crowds in the streets of 'muslim' countries cheering 3 the crowds in the streets of the muslim countries are cheering in A TURKISH STADIUM during a 'moment of silence' for attack on paris questions 1. the word has been out since the event, at which point since then were these crowds cheering? 2. what is the evidence that the video of the muslims was in response to that word? 3. were they cheering in muslim countries or in a stadium? 4. did they cheer when news of the event got out or during a sporting event that included a moment of silence? How can you make an opinion of the news if you haven't seen it or in any way be aware of what happened? The stadium/Paris thing was all over the news. |
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The "story" is that only a tiny percentage of the Muslims are radical. But when the word gets out that Americans, Israelites, or some other western persons, buildings, planes, or site of terrorism was attacked, video of crowds in the streets of various Muslim countries are shown cheering. Those crowds were cheering in a Turkish stadium during the "moment of silence" for the recent attack on Paris. That "tiny" percentage appears to not be so tiny. so, three 'facts' are alleged 1. word gout out that people were attacked 2. there is video of crowds in the streets of 'muslim' countries cheering 3 the crowds in the streets of the muslim countries are cheering in A TURKISH STADIUM during a 'moment of silence' for attack on paris questions 1. the word has been out since the event, at which point since then were these crowds cheering? 2. what is the evidence that the video of the muslims was in response to that word? 3. were they cheering in muslim countries or in a stadium? 4. did they cheer when news of the event got out or during a sporting event that included a moment of silence? How can you make an opinion of the news if you haven't seen it or in any way be aware of what happened? The stadium/Paris thing was all over the news. its a STADIUM,,,thats why it was a SPORTING EVENT< thats another sports fanatics are a haven for fanatics of all types and not 'representative' of anyones demographic,, besides 'sports fanatics' |
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The "story" is that only a tiny percentage of the Muslims are radical. But when the word gets out that Americans, Israelites, or some other western persons, buildings, planes, or site of terrorism was attacked, video of crowds in the streets of various Muslim countries are shown cheering. Those crowds were cheering in a Turkish stadium during the "moment of silence" for the recent attack on Paris. That "tiny" percentage appears to not be so tiny. so, three 'facts' are alleged 1. word gout out that people were attacked 2. there is video of crowds in the streets of 'muslim' countries cheering 3 the crowds in the streets of the muslim countries are cheering in A TURKISH STADIUM during a 'moment of silence' for attack on paris questions 1. the word has been out since the event, at which point since then were these crowds cheering? 2. what is the evidence that the video of the muslims was in response to that word? 3. were they cheering in muslim countries or in a stadium? 4. did they cheer when news of the event got out or during a sporting event that included a moment of silence? How can you make an opinion of the news if you haven't seen it or in any way be aware of what happened? The stadium/Paris thing was all over the news. its a STADIUM,,,thats why it was a SPORTING EVENT< thats another sports fanatics are a haven for fanatics of all types and not 'representative' of anyones demographic,, besides 'sports fanatics' Been to my share of N.Y. Yankee games, never felt like the place was filled with fanatics and I never heard any section break out in "GOD IS GREAT!!.maybe I just went on the wrong day? |
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The "story" is that only a tiny percentage of the Muslims are radical. But when the word gets out that Americans, Israelites, or some other western persons, buildings, planes, or site of terrorism was attacked, video of crowds in the streets of various Muslim countries are shown cheering. Those crowds were cheering in a Turkish stadium during the "moment of silence" for the recent attack on Paris. That "tiny" percentage appears to not be so tiny. so, three 'facts' are alleged 1. word gout out that people were attacked 2. there is video of crowds in the streets of 'muslim' countries cheering 3 the crowds in the streets of the muslim countries are cheering in A TURKISH STADIUM during a 'moment of silence' for attack on paris questions 1. the word has been out since the event, at which point since then were these crowds cheering? 2. what is the evidence that the video of the muslims was in response to that word? 3. were they cheering in muslim countries or in a stadium? 4. did they cheer when news of the event got out or during a sporting event that included a moment of silence? How can you make an opinion of the news if you haven't seen it or in any way be aware of what happened? The stadium/Paris thing was all over the news. its a STADIUM,,,thats why it was a SPORTING EVENT< thats another sports fanatics are a haven for fanatics of all types and not 'representative' of anyones demographic,, besides 'sports fanatics' Been to my share of N.Y. Yankee games, never felt like the place was filled with fanatics and I never heard any section break out in "GOD IS GREAT!!.maybe I just went on the wrong day? yeah, its not an every time thing, anymore than any other 'newsworthy' mention of out of hand groups is but there is plenty of examples if one cares to look,, like these http://mic.com/articles/116680/11-stunning-images-highlight-the-double-standard-of-reactions-to-riots-like-baltimore#.lowci3uOI |
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The "story" is that only a tiny percentage of the Muslims are radical. But when the word gets out that Americans, Israelites, or some other western persons, buildings, planes, or site of terrorism was attacked, video of crowds in the streets of various Muslim countries are shown cheering. Those crowds were cheering in a Turkish stadium during the "moment of silence" for the recent attack on Paris. That "tiny" percentage appears to not be so tiny. so, three 'facts' are alleged 1. word gout out that people were attacked 2. there is video of crowds in the streets of 'muslim' countries cheering 3 the crowds in the streets of the muslim countries are cheering in A TURKISH STADIUM during a 'moment of silence' for attack on paris questions 1. the word has been out since the event, at which point since then were these crowds cheering? 2. what is the evidence that the video of the muslims was in response to that word? 3. were they cheering in muslim countries or in a stadium? 4. did they cheer when news of the event got out or during a sporting event that included a moment of silence? How can you make an opinion of the news if you haven't seen it or in any way be aware of what happened? The stadium/Paris thing was all over the news. its a STADIUM,,,thats why it was a SPORTING EVENT< thats another sports fanatics are a haven for fanatics of all types and not 'representative' of anyones demographic,, besides 'sports fanatics' You continually argue from a position of total ignorance. There have now been at least three stadium events where the Moment of Silence in support of the French was interrupted by THOUSANDS of Muslims chanting "Allahu Akbar" and something that means the killers live forever! You express how hundreds of people marching express the "demographics" of black America but thousands of Muslims don't seem to represent the demographics of anything. If you are not aware of what is going on the world as expressed by various news agencies of different agendas, how can you make, in any way, an informed comment about what is happening? |
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What makes sense to me, is to recognize and deal with the problems of RIGHT NOW. So the fact that there is horrific bloodshed associated with a religion deep in the past, isn't the right reason to condemn everyone associated with it today. Shame on those who want to blame the Christians of today, for the horrifying acts of their ancestors. Today, we do have the problem that there are currently a lot more Muslims being manipulated into doing horrible things in the name of their religion, than there are Christians and others. However, just as it was Christian terrorists who bombed medical clinics and murdered doctors for their beliefs not long ago, but we refused to condemn ALL Christians for their actions, so too it makes no sense to condemn all of Islam for the acts of their minority of nuts. We DO need to take actions, but they need to be specific. For example, I would like to see more REASONABLE leaders, call for direct statements from those who are leaders of religions who have committed these acts. I wanted the Pope and other Christian leaders to come out and sharply condemn anyone who tried to use Christianity as a cover story for acts of violence against others, but that didn't happen. I wanted Republican leaders to speak out directly against the lies being told by their followers and pundits, but only McCain did so. I wanted Democrats to renounce those amongst them, who failed to uphold THEIR standards to speak out as well, but I heard nothing. For certain, attacking the ENTIRE COMMUNITY when part of it misbehaves, is a failed concept. Historically, it has inevitably resulted in causing the rest of said community to join forces with the miscreants amongst them. so,what are you recommending,Oh Wise One? It worked well enough in Germany,where also not every German was a hyper-Fanatic National-Socialist! |
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Just to use something, someone pointed out an image which made sense on the surface, using M&Ms as a comparison. The problem is that the radicalization of some muslim people is a complex issue dealing with a lot of factors, and it is being simplified to a West vs Muslim terrorists dichotomy. We should not let that happen, because then it is easy for ideas leaning in a specific direction to be 'fed' to us, and for the manipulation of people towards a specific outcome. Going back to the M&Ms, if 10% is poisened, 90% is still edible. See that it is not poisoned by the 10% and you are bound to benefit. Caution is usually good, though paranoia to the point of exclusion rarely is.
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Just to use something, someone pointed out an image which made sense on the surface, using M&Ms as a comparison. The problem is that the radicalization of some muslim people is a complex issue dealing with a lot of factors, and it is being simplified to a West vs Muslim terrorists dichotomy. We should not let that happen, because then it is easy for ideas leaning in a specific direction to be 'fed' to us, and for the manipulation of people towards a specific outcome. Going back to the M&Ms, if 10% is poisened, 90% is still edible. See that it is not poisoned by the 10% and you are bound to benefit. Caution is usually good, though paranoia to the point of exclusion rarely is. and you will,of course,know which ones are the poison ones,do you? |
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I don't think it's unfair labelling of Muslims but rather the wrong labelling of the so called Islamic state.
The word Islamic needs dropping from their name. I don't recall the KKK being called the Christian KKK. Or the IRA being called the Catholic IRA. By continuing to call them Islamic we are alienating millions of good Muslims who must be as horrified as the rest of us. Having said all that, I do believe the good Muslims need to pull their fingers out and do something about it as well. |
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I agree with a lot of what you've said, though I must add that an environment to facilitate greater action must also be created. Most especially abroad. As a reply to another post, I can always find out. There might be more work involved, but it can be done. Especially as I have the knowledge of the poisoning.
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Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them" - Quran (8:15) - "O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle, turn not your backs to them. (16)Whoso on that day turneth his back to them, unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a company, he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah, and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey's end." -Quran (8:67) - "It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war until he had made a great slaughter in the land..." -Quran (9:5) - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them." -Quran (9:14) - "Fight against them so that Allah will punish them by your hands and disgrace them and give you victory over them and heal the breasts of a believing people." ------------------------------------------------------------------ just a few of the islamic peaceful commands of their holy book |
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