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msharmony's photo
Thu 09/10/15 06:52 AM
WHy?

When President OBama made the statement that his son might look like Treyvon,, was it 'divisive' , 'hateful', 'racist'

but when Candidate Trump makes the statement that mexico is sending thieves, rapists and murders and that he at least 'assumes' some of them are 'decent,,,,,is that just 'stating facts'?



When President OBama spoke about himself, even when DIRECTLY asked about himself,, he was a narcisist,

but when Candidate Trump constantly blurts out his Brand and talks about how great he is and how much he has and how his 'women' look, he is just 'stirring things up'?



when President Obama made the statement that A COP going into a mans home ,where that mans pictures are all over the mantles along with his awards and certificates,, to demand he PROVE he lives there,,,,was a STUPID thing to do,,,,, he is branded as 'cop hating' and actually blamed for people choosing to kill cops?


but when Candidate Trump makes repeated statements about womens looks, how his women are so pretty, how ugly Odonnel is, how noone could vote for someone with Clintons face, or even how a Female who questions his is probably 'bleeding from somewhere',,,,,he isnt branded a misogynist, woman hater and he isnt blamed for people harming immigrants even after he responds to an incident where people actually DID beat an immigrant nearly to death by praising the PASSION of his supporters?





,,,,why are such similar behaviors characterized so differently based upon who does them?

Ladywind7's photo
Thu 09/10/15 07:05 AM

sybariticguy's photo
Thu 09/10/15 08:23 AM
Political expediency is no different than personal expediency as they share the same process just different agendas..

no photo
Thu 09/10/15 08:38 AM

WHy?

When President OBama made the statement that his son might look like Treyvon,, was it 'divisive' , 'hateful', 'racist'

but when Candidate Trump makes the statement that mexico is sending thieves, rapists and murders and that he at least 'assumes' some of them are 'decent,,,,,is that just 'stating facts'?



When President OBama spoke about himself, even when DIRECTLY asked about himself,, he was a narcisist,

but when Candidate Trump constantly blurts out his Brand and talks about how great he is and how much he has and how his 'women' look, he is just 'stirring things up'?



when President Obama made the statement that A COP going into a mans home ,where that mans pictures are all over the mantles along with his awards and certificates,, to demand he PROVE he lives there,,,,was a STUPID thing to do,,,,, he is branded as 'cop hating' and actually blamed for people choosing to kill cops?


but when Candidate Trump makes repeated statements about womens looks, how his women are so pretty, how ugly Odonnel is, how noone could vote for someone with Clintons face, or even how a Female who questions his is probably 'bleeding from somewhere',,,,,he isnt branded a misogynist, woman hater and he isnt blamed for people harming immigrants even after he responds to an incident where people actually DID beat an immigrant nearly to death by praising the PASSION of his supporters?





,,,,why are such similar behaviors characterized so differently based upon who does them?


I guess it depends on who they are speaking to.

Ras427's photo
Thu 09/10/15 08:56 AM
Institutionalized racism.

msharmony's photo
Thu 09/10/15 11:37 AM





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adj4u's photo
Fri 09/11/15 05:40 PM
Well travon was a thief and a bully he broke the law ,,,,, obamas actions created an even bigger divide than already existed

His constant race baiting statements have lead to groups chanting kill whitey and kill cops

Opama is already in a position of national authority

Trump is not in a postion of national authority he is only a wanana be @ the moment

Big difference between a wanana be and an is

msharmony's photo
Fri 09/11/15 05:45 PM

Well travon was a thief and a bully he broke the law ,,,,, obamas actions created an even bigger divide than already existed

His constant race baiting statements have lead to groups chanting kill whitey and kill cops

Opama is already in a position of national authority

Trump is not in a postion of national authority he is only a wanana be @ the moment

Big difference between a wanana be and an is



immigrants from mexico are not all criminal, Trumps implication of associating crime with mexicans creates an even bigger divide than already exists

there is no evidence that he 'constantly' race baits or that 'leads' to anyone elses choice to do anything

either an action is divisive or not,, what 'position' is irrelevant, Trump actually has national authority too,, by virtue of his money,, money is power and authority,, that may explain why he feels so free to act however he wants without rebuke,,,,

no difference between 'divisive' behavior,,,,and no reason to vote someone in who has a character trait you wouldnt want someone in the office to have,,

adj4u's photo
Fri 09/11/15 05:54 PM
All imigrants that do not follow the law of entry to any country IS A CRIMINAL THEY BROKE THE LAW AS SOON AS THEY STEPPED ON FOREIGN SOIL

InvictusV's photo
Fri 09/11/15 05:55 PM

WHy?

When President OBama made the statement that his son might look like Treyvon,, was it 'divisive' , 'hateful', 'racist'

but when Candidate Trump makes the statement that mexico is sending thieves, rapists and murders and that he at least 'assumes' some of them are 'decent,,,,,is that just 'stating facts'?



When President OBama spoke about himself, even when DIRECTLY asked about himself,, he was a narcisist,

but when Candidate Trump constantly blurts out his Brand and talks about how great he is and how much he has and how his 'women' look, he is just 'stirring things up'?



when President Obama made the statement that A COP going into a mans home ,where that mans pictures are all over the mantles along with his awards and certificates,, to demand he PROVE he lives there,,,,was a STUPID thing to do,,,,, he is branded as 'cop hating' and actually blamed for people choosing to kill cops?


but when Candidate Trump makes repeated statements about womens looks, how his women are so pretty, how ugly Odonnel is, how noone could vote for someone with Clintons face, or even how a Female who questions his is probably 'bleeding from somewhere',,,,,he isnt branded a misogynist, woman hater and he isnt blamed for people harming immigrants even after he responds to an incident where people actually DID beat an immigrant nearly to death by praising the PASSION of his supporters?





,,,,why are such similar behaviors characterized so differently based upon who does them?


Do you forget that Bush was criticized and lampooned for practically everything he said?

No president in history provided more aid to africa than Bush and you had the a$$ clown kanye west publicly say Bush hates black people.

So does that eliminate West when he 'runs' in 2020? haha

adj4u's photo
Fri 09/11/15 05:56 PM
Edited by adj4u on Fri 09/11/15 06:02 PM
Then dont vote for him but all illegals are criminals

Thus the word illegal

Why is it obama is not having doj go after this hate groups

His inaction is an endorsement of their actions

I am sure if a white supremist group started cting like these blA supremist groups and people started dieing the doj would be responding Again like i 50s & 60s

msharmony's photo
Fri 09/11/15 06:10 PM


WHy?

When President OBama made the statement that his son might look like Treyvon,, was it 'divisive' , 'hateful', 'racist'

but when Candidate Trump makes the statement that mexico is sending thieves, rapists and murders and that he at least 'assumes' some of them are 'decent,,,,,is that just 'stating facts'?



When President OBama spoke about himself, even when DIRECTLY asked about himself,, he was a narcisist,

but when Candidate Trump constantly blurts out his Brand and talks about how great he is and how much he has and how his 'women' look, he is just 'stirring things up'?



when President Obama made the statement that A COP going into a mans home ,where that mans pictures are all over the mantles along with his awards and certificates,, to demand he PROVE he lives there,,,,was a STUPID thing to do,,,,, he is branded as 'cop hating' and actually blamed for people choosing to kill cops?


but when Candidate Trump makes repeated statements about womens looks, how his women are so pretty, how ugly Odonnel is, how noone could vote for someone with Clintons face, or even how a Female who questions his is probably 'bleeding from somewhere',,,,,he isnt branded a misogynist, woman hater and he isnt blamed for people harming immigrants even after he responds to an incident where people actually DID beat an immigrant nearly to death by praising the PASSION of his supporters?





,,,,why are such similar behaviors characterized so differently based upon who does them?


Do you forget that Bush was criticized and lampooned for practically everything he said?

No president in history provided more aid to africa than Bush and you had the a$$ clown kanye west publicly say Bush hates black people.

So does that eliminate West when he 'runs' in 2020? haha



1. Bush was mostly criticized for saying 'dumb' things and appearing to be less than intelligent,, I happened to choose the most RECENT president to compare for the purpose of this thread

2. I dont live in Africa,,,I doubt Kanye was speaking about black people in Africa

3. So , no, it doesnt eliminate Kanye,, he never said Bush hated AFRICANS,, most presidents have never been to AFrica ,,,lol

but americans certainly have 'feelings' when it comes to 'black' americans

:wink:

msharmony's photo
Fri 09/11/15 06:12 PM

All imigrants that do not follow the law of entry to any country IS A CRIMINAL THEY BROKE THE LAW AS SOON AS THEY STEPPED ON FOREIGN SOIL



thats true,, but Trump didnt comment about immigrants entering illegally, he commented on all who come from MEXICO(regardless of citizenship)

"When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.”"


msharmony's photo
Fri 09/11/15 06:12 PM

All imigrants that do not follow the law of entry to any country IS A CRIMINAL THEY BROKE THE LAW AS SOON AS THEY STEPPED ON FOREIGN SOIL



thats true,, but Trump didnt comment about immigrants entering illegally, he commented on all who come from MEXICO(regardless of citizenship)

"When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.”"


msharmony's photo
Fri 09/11/15 06:15 PM

Then dont vote for him but all illegals are criminals

Thus the word illegal

Why is it obama is not having doj go after this hate groups

His inaction is an endorsement of their actions

I am sure if a white supremist group started cting like these blA supremist groups and people started dieing the doj would be responding Again like i 50s & 60s


doj doesnt 'go after' hate groups unless they commit CRIMES,,lol

otherwise freedom of speech and right to guns pretty much protects their behavior,,,


Very few presidents have 'gone' after all the hate groups, they would rarely accomplish anything else if they did,,,lol

that has nothing to do with endorsing them


I dont know who BLA is, and people have always been dying.

InvictusV's photo
Fri 09/11/15 06:23 PM
Edited by InvictusV on Fri 09/11/15 06:25 PM



WHy?

When President OBama made the statement that his son might look like Treyvon,, was it 'divisive' , 'hateful', 'racist'

but when Candidate Trump makes the statement that mexico is sending thieves, rapists and murders and that he at least 'assumes' some of them are 'decent,,,,,is that just 'stating facts'?



When President OBama spoke about himself, even when DIRECTLY asked about himself,, he was a narcisist,

but when Candidate Trump constantly blurts out his Brand and talks about how great he is and how much he has and how his 'women' look, he is just 'stirring things up'?



when President Obama made the statement that A COP going into a mans home ,where that mans pictures are all over the mantles along with his awards and certificates,, to demand he PROVE he lives there,,,,was a STUPID thing to do,,,,, he is branded as 'cop hating' and actually blamed for people choosing to kill cops?


but when Candidate Trump makes repeated statements about womens looks, how his women are so pretty, how ugly Odonnel is, how noone could vote for someone with Clintons face, or even how a Female who questions his is probably 'bleeding from somewhere',,,,,he isnt branded a misogynist, woman hater and he isnt blamed for people harming immigrants even after he responds to an incident where people actually DID beat an immigrant nearly to death by praising the PASSION of his supporters?





,,,,why are such similar behaviors characterized so differently based upon who does them?


Do you forget that Bush was criticized and lampooned for practically everything he said?

No president in history provided more aid to africa than Bush and you had the a$$ clown kanye west publicly say Bush hates black people.

So does that eliminate West when he 'runs' in 2020? haha



1. Bush was mostly criticized for saying 'dumb' things and appearing to be less than intelligent,, I happened to choose the most RECENT president to compare for the purpose of this thread

2. I dont live in Africa,,,I doubt Kanye was speaking about black people in Africa

3. So , no, it doesnt eliminate Kanye,, he never said Bush hated AFRICANS,, most presidents have never been to AFrica ,,,lol

but americans certainly have 'feelings' when it comes to 'black' americans

:wink:


Ok.. Bush loves africans but hates black americans... thats an interesting observation.

If there is such a difference then why african american?

Maybe black american would be better since there is such a difference... haha..

If the purpose of this is to say that its because Obama is half black and Trump is white with bad hair then just type that.

The point is that regardless of race.. Whether it being mixed as with Obama or white as with Bush the level of respect for the office has diminished.

Clinton was getting blowjobs in the oval office for christ sake.

When the men elected to represent the entire nation sully the prestige of the office by their actions or words then don't be overly sensitive when they get called out for it.

Trump hasn't been elected to s##T yet.. So using him as a comparison isn't the best route to take.



no photo
Fri 09/11/15 06:26 PM
Yea, but Bush dodged those shoes pretty dam good, I thought.happy

msharmony's photo
Fri 09/11/15 06:29 PM
Edited by msharmony on Fri 09/11/15 06:30 PM




WHy?

When President OBama made the statement that his son might look like Treyvon,, was it 'divisive' , 'hateful', 'racist'

but when Candidate Trump makes the statement that mexico is sending thieves, rapists and murders and that he at least 'assumes' some of them are 'decent,,,,,is that just 'stating facts'?



When President OBama spoke about himself, even when DIRECTLY asked about himself,, he was a narcisist,

but when Candidate Trump constantly blurts out his Brand and talks about how great he is and how much he has and how his 'women' look, he is just 'stirring things up'?



when President Obama made the statement that A COP going into a mans home ,where that mans pictures are all over the mantles along with his awards and certificates,, to demand he PROVE he lives there,,,,was a STUPID thing to do,,,,, he is branded as 'cop hating' and actually blamed for people choosing to kill cops?


but when Candidate Trump makes repeated statements about womens looks, how his women are so pretty, how ugly Odonnel is, how noone could vote for someone with Clintons face, or even how a Female who questions his is probably 'bleeding from somewhere',,,,,he isnt branded a misogynist, woman hater and he isnt blamed for people harming immigrants even after he responds to an incident where people actually DID beat an immigrant nearly to death by praising the PASSION of his supporters?





,,,,why are such similar behaviors characterized so differently based upon who does them?


Do you forget that Bush was criticized and lampooned for practically everything he said?

No president in history provided more aid to africa than Bush and you had the a$$ clown kanye west publicly say Bush hates black people.

So does that eliminate West when he 'runs' in 2020? haha



1. Bush was mostly criticized for saying 'dumb' things and appearing to be less than intelligent,, I happened to choose the most RECENT president to compare for the purpose of this thread

2. I dont live in Africa,,,I doubt Kanye was speaking about black people in Africa

3. So , no, it doesnt eliminate Kanye,, he never said Bush hated AFRICANS,, most presidents have never been to AFrica ,,,lol

but americans certainly have 'feelings' when it comes to 'black' americans

:wink:


Ok.. Bush loves africans but hates black americans... thats an interesting observation.

If there is such a difference then why african american?

Maybe black american would be better since there is such a difference... haha..

If the purpose of this is to say that its because Obama is half black and Trump is white with bad hair then just type that.

The point is that regardless of race.. Whether it being mixed as with Obama or white as with Bush the level of respect for the office has diminished.

Clinton was getting blowjobs in the oval office for christ sake.

When the men elected to represent the entire nation sully the prestige of the office by their actions or words then don't be overly sensitive when they get called out for it.

Trump hasn't been elected to s##T yet.. So using him as a comparison is the best route to take.







why the difference? different geography, different culture,, African american keeps the connection to the family that Africans were forced to give up,,,,,


its like the difference between hating Americans and hating southerners,, one is much more specific than the latter

but that doesnt mean the more specific designation has any reason to stop being used,,,


I dont know what hair has to do with this

but, as stated before, character is character,, and if its a character undesirable in a president, than why give support to a presidential candidate that exhibits that undesirable character? let alone cite it as a REASON to support that candidate?

InvictusV's photo
Fri 09/11/15 06:36 PM





WHy?

When President OBama made the statement that his son might look like Treyvon,, was it 'divisive' , 'hateful', 'racist'

but when Candidate Trump makes the statement that mexico is sending thieves, rapists and murders and that he at least 'assumes' some of them are 'decent,,,,,is that just 'stating facts'?



When President OBama spoke about himself, even when DIRECTLY asked about himself,, he was a narcisist,

but when Candidate Trump constantly blurts out his Brand and talks about how great he is and how much he has and how his 'women' look, he is just 'stirring things up'?



when President Obama made the statement that A COP going into a mans home ,where that mans pictures are all over the mantles along with his awards and certificates,, to demand he PROVE he lives there,,,,was a STUPID thing to do,,,,, he is branded as 'cop hating' and actually blamed for people choosing to kill cops?


but when Candidate Trump makes repeated statements about womens looks, how his women are so pretty, how ugly Odonnel is, how noone could vote for someone with Clintons face, or even how a Female who questions his is probably 'bleeding from somewhere',,,,,he isnt branded a misogynist, woman hater and he isnt blamed for people harming immigrants even after he responds to an incident where people actually DID beat an immigrant nearly to death by praising the PASSION of his supporters?





,,,,why are such similar behaviors characterized so differently based upon who does them?


Do you forget that Bush was criticized and lampooned for practically everything he said?

No president in history provided more aid to africa than Bush and you had the a$$ clown kanye west publicly say Bush hates black people.

So does that eliminate West when he 'runs' in 2020? haha



1. Bush was mostly criticized for saying 'dumb' things and appearing to be less than intelligent,, I happened to choose the most RECENT president to compare for the purpose of this thread

2. I dont live in Africa,,,I doubt Kanye was speaking about black people in Africa

3. So , no, it doesnt eliminate Kanye,, he never said Bush hated AFRICANS,, most presidents have never been to AFrica ,,,lol

but americans certainly have 'feelings' when it comes to 'black' americans

:wink:


Ok.. Bush loves africans but hates black americans... thats an interesting observation.

If there is such a difference then why african american?

Maybe black american would be better since there is such a difference... haha..

If the purpose of this is to say that its because Obama is half black and Trump is white with bad hair then just type that.

The point is that regardless of race.. Whether it being mixed as with Obama or white as with Bush the level of respect for the office has diminished.

Clinton was getting blowjobs in the oval office for christ sake.

When the men elected to represent the entire nation sully the prestige of the office by their actions or words then don't be overly sensitive when they get called out for it.

Trump hasn't been elected to s##T yet.. So using him as a comparison is the best route to take.







why the difference? different geography, different culture,, African american keeps the connection to the family that Africans were forced to give up,,,,,


its like the difference between hating Americans and hating southerners,, one is much more specific than the latter

but that doesnt mean the more specific designation has any reason to stop being used,,,


I dont know what hair has to do with this

but, as stated before, character is character,, and if its a character undesirable in a president, than why give support to a presidential candidate that exhibits that undesirable character? let alone cite it as a REASON to support that candidate?


No one has voted yet Ms Harmony.

Just because Trump leads now doesn't mean he will win a single state during the actual process.

Crazy Howard Dean was leading all the polls back in 2003 going into Iowa and didn't win the nomination.

You are putting the cart before the horse here.

msharmony's photo
Fri 09/11/15 06:39 PM






WHy?

When President OBama made the statement that his son might look like Treyvon,, was it 'divisive' , 'hateful', 'racist'

but when Candidate Trump makes the statement that mexico is sending thieves, rapists and murders and that he at least 'assumes' some of them are 'decent,,,,,is that just 'stating facts'?



When President OBama spoke about himself, even when DIRECTLY asked about himself,, he was a narcisist,

but when Candidate Trump constantly blurts out his Brand and talks about how great he is and how much he has and how his 'women' look, he is just 'stirring things up'?



when President Obama made the statement that A COP going into a mans home ,where that mans pictures are all over the mantles along with his awards and certificates,, to demand he PROVE he lives there,,,,was a STUPID thing to do,,,,, he is branded as 'cop hating' and actually blamed for people choosing to kill cops?


but when Candidate Trump makes repeated statements about womens looks, how his women are so pretty, how ugly Odonnel is, how noone could vote for someone with Clintons face, or even how a Female who questions his is probably 'bleeding from somewhere',,,,,he isnt branded a misogynist, woman hater and he isnt blamed for people harming immigrants even after he responds to an incident where people actually DID beat an immigrant nearly to death by praising the PASSION of his supporters?





,,,,why are such similar behaviors characterized so differently based upon who does them?


Do you forget that Bush was criticized and lampooned for practically everything he said?

No president in history provided more aid to africa than Bush and you had the a$$ clown kanye west publicly say Bush hates black people.

So does that eliminate West when he 'runs' in 2020? haha



1. Bush was mostly criticized for saying 'dumb' things and appearing to be less than intelligent,, I happened to choose the most RECENT president to compare for the purpose of this thread

2. I dont live in Africa,,,I doubt Kanye was speaking about black people in Africa

3. So , no, it doesnt eliminate Kanye,, he never said Bush hated AFRICANS,, most presidents have never been to AFrica ,,,lol

but americans certainly have 'feelings' when it comes to 'black' americans

:wink:


Ok.. Bush loves africans but hates black americans... thats an interesting observation.

If there is such a difference then why african american?

Maybe black american would be better since there is such a difference... haha..

If the purpose of this is to say that its because Obama is half black and Trump is white with bad hair then just type that.

The point is that regardless of race.. Whether it being mixed as with Obama or white as with Bush the level of respect for the office has diminished.

Clinton was getting blowjobs in the oval office for christ sake.

When the men elected to represent the entire nation sully the prestige of the office by their actions or words then don't be overly sensitive when they get called out for it.

Trump hasn't been elected to s##T yet.. So using him as a comparison is the best route to take.







why the difference? different geography, different culture,, African american keeps the connection to the family that Africans were forced to give up,,,,,


its like the difference between hating Americans and hating southerners,, one is much more specific than the latter

but that doesnt mean the more specific designation has any reason to stop being used,,,


I dont know what hair has to do with this

but, as stated before, character is character,, and if its a character undesirable in a president, than why give support to a presidential candidate that exhibits that undesirable character? let alone cite it as a REASON to support that candidate?


No one has voted yet Ms Harmony.

Just because Trump leads now doesn't mean he will win a single state during the actual process.

Crazy Howard Dean was leading all the polls back in 2003 going into Iowa and didn't win the nomination.

You are putting the cart before the horse here.


I understand. however he has alot of support and accolades for things that the sitting president was ostracized for,,

I am only commenting on those who I actually remember slamming some things about Obama that are now endorsing and cheering Trump for similar things,,,,


:smile:

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