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Fri 09/11/15 06:41 PM





WHy?

When President OBama made the statement that his son might look like Treyvon,, was it 'divisive' , 'hateful', 'racist'

but when Candidate Trump makes the statement that mexico is sending thieves, rapists and murders and that he at least 'assumes' some of them are 'decent,,,,,is that just 'stating facts'?



When President OBama spoke about himself, even when DIRECTLY asked about himself,, he was a narcisist,

but when Candidate Trump constantly blurts out his Brand and talks about how great he is and how much he has and how his 'women' look, he is just 'stirring things up'?



when President Obama made the statement that A COP going into a mans home ,where that mans pictures are all over the mantles along with his awards and certificates,, to demand he PROVE he lives there,,,,was a STUPID thing to do,,,,, he is branded as 'cop hating' and actually blamed for people choosing to kill cops?


but when Candidate Trump makes repeated statements about womens looks, how his women are so pretty, how ugly Odonnel is, how noone could vote for someone with Clintons face, or even how a Female who questions his is probably 'bleeding from somewhere',,,,,he isnt branded a misogynist, woman hater and he isnt blamed for people harming immigrants even after he responds to an incident where people actually DID beat an immigrant nearly to death by praising the PASSION of his supporters?





,,,,why are such similar behaviors characterized so differently based upon who does them?


Do you forget that Bush was criticized and lampooned for practically everything he said?

No president in history provided more aid to africa than Bush and you had the a$$ clown kanye west publicly say Bush hates black people.

So does that eliminate West when he 'runs' in 2020? haha



1. Bush was mostly criticized for saying 'dumb' things and appearing to be less than intelligent,, I happened to choose the most RECENT president to compare for the purpose of this thread

2. I dont live in Africa,,,I doubt Kanye was speaking about black people in Africa

3. So , no, it doesnt eliminate Kanye,, he never said Bush hated AFRICANS,, most presidents have never been to AFrica ,,,lol

but americans certainly have 'feelings' when it comes to 'black' americans

:wink:


Ok.. Bush loves africans but hates black americans... thats an interesting observation.

If there is such a difference then why african american?

Maybe black american would be better since there is such a difference... haha..

If the purpose of this is to say that its because Obama is half black and Trump is white with bad hair then just type that.

The point is that regardless of race.. Whether it being mixed as with Obama or white as with Bush the level of respect for the office has diminished.

Clinton was getting blowjobs in the oval office for christ sake.

When the men elected to represent the entire nation sully the prestige of the office by their actions or words then don't be overly sensitive when they get called out for it.

Trump hasn't been elected to s##T yet.. So using him as a comparison is the best route to take.







why the difference? different geography, different culture,, African american keeps the connection to the family that Africans were forced to give up,,,,,


its like the difference between hating Americans and hating southerners,, one is much more specific than the latter

but that doesnt mean the more specific designation has any reason to stop being used,,,


I dont know what hair has to do with this

but, as stated before, character is character,, and if its a character undesirable in a president, than why give support to a presidential candidate that exhibits that undesirable character? let alone cite it as a REASON to support that candidate?


Everyone has a different character and no one is perfect, as we have found in Obama. We have to decide, is one undesirable character worse than one who lies to US.

and Kanye did say. "Bush does not like black people".

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Fri 09/11/15 06:44 PM






WHy?

When President OBama made the statement that his son might look like Treyvon,, was it 'divisive' , 'hateful', 'racist'

but when Candidate Trump makes the statement that mexico is sending thieves, rapists and murders and that he at least 'assumes' some of them are 'decent,,,,,is that just 'stating facts'?



When President OBama spoke about himself, even when DIRECTLY asked about himself,, he was a narcisist,

but when Candidate Trump constantly blurts out his Brand and talks about how great he is and how much he has and how his 'women' look, he is just 'stirring things up'?



when President Obama made the statement that A COP going into a mans home ,where that mans pictures are all over the mantles along with his awards and certificates,, to demand he PROVE he lives there,,,,was a STUPID thing to do,,,,, he is branded as 'cop hating' and actually blamed for people choosing to kill cops?


but when Candidate Trump makes repeated statements about womens looks, how his women are so pretty, how ugly Odonnel is, how noone could vote for someone with Clintons face, or even how a Female who questions his is probably 'bleeding from somewhere',,,,,he isnt branded a misogynist, woman hater and he isnt blamed for people harming immigrants even after he responds to an incident where people actually DID beat an immigrant nearly to death by praising the PASSION of his supporters?





,,,,why are such similar behaviors characterized so differently based upon who does them?


Do you forget that Bush was criticized and lampooned for practically everything he said?

No president in history provided more aid to africa than Bush and you had the a$$ clown kanye west publicly say Bush hates black people.

So does that eliminate West when he 'runs' in 2020? haha



1. Bush was mostly criticized for saying 'dumb' things and appearing to be less than intelligent,, I happened to choose the most RECENT president to compare for the purpose of this thread

2. I dont live in Africa,,,I doubt Kanye was speaking about black people in Africa

3. So , no, it doesnt eliminate Kanye,, he never said Bush hated AFRICANS,, most presidents have never been to AFrica ,,,lol

but americans certainly have 'feelings' when it comes to 'black' americans

:wink:


Ok.. Bush loves africans but hates black americans... thats an interesting observation.

If there is such a difference then why african american?

Maybe black american would be better since there is such a difference... haha..

If the purpose of this is to say that its because Obama is half black and Trump is white with bad hair then just type that.

The point is that regardless of race.. Whether it being mixed as with Obama or white as with Bush the level of respect for the office has diminished.

Clinton was getting blowjobs in the oval office for christ sake.

When the men elected to represent the entire nation sully the prestige of the office by their actions or words then don't be overly sensitive when they get called out for it.

Trump hasn't been elected to s##T yet.. So using him as a comparison is the best route to take.







why the difference? different geography, different culture,, African american keeps the connection to the family that Africans were forced to give up,,,,,


its like the difference between hating Americans and hating southerners,, one is much more specific than the latter

but that doesnt mean the more specific designation has any reason to stop being used,,,


I dont know what hair has to do with this

but, as stated before, character is character,, and if its a character undesirable in a president, than why give support to a presidential candidate that exhibits that undesirable character? let alone cite it as a REASON to support that candidate?


Everyone has a different character and no one is perfect, as we have found in Obama. We have to decide, is one undesirable character worse than one who lies to US.

and Kanye did say. "Bush does not like black people".



Trump lies like his hair,,lol

but in any case,,what Kanye said was 'BUsh does not care about black people'

nothing about AFRICANS (which refers to people living on a CONTINENT, and not the same as 'black')


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Fri 09/11/15 06:46 PM







WHy?

When President OBama made the statement that his son might look like Treyvon,, was it 'divisive' , 'hateful', 'racist'

but when Candidate Trump makes the statement that mexico is sending thieves, rapists and murders and that he at least 'assumes' some of them are 'decent,,,,,is that just 'stating facts'?



When President OBama spoke about himself, even when DIRECTLY asked about himself,, he was a narcisist,

but when Candidate Trump constantly blurts out his Brand and talks about how great he is and how much he has and how his 'women' look, he is just 'stirring things up'?



when President Obama made the statement that A COP going into a mans home ,where that mans pictures are all over the mantles along with his awards and certificates,, to demand he PROVE he lives there,,,,was a STUPID thing to do,,,,, he is branded as 'cop hating' and actually blamed for people choosing to kill cops?


but when Candidate Trump makes repeated statements about womens looks, how his women are so pretty, how ugly Odonnel is, how noone could vote for someone with Clintons face, or even how a Female who questions his is probably 'bleeding from somewhere',,,,,he isnt branded a misogynist, woman hater and he isnt blamed for people harming immigrants even after he responds to an incident where people actually DID beat an immigrant nearly to death by praising the PASSION of his supporters?





,,,,why are such similar behaviors characterized so differently based upon who does them?


Do you forget that Bush was criticized and lampooned for practically everything he said?

No president in history provided more aid to africa than Bush and you had the a$$ clown kanye west publicly say Bush hates black people.

So does that eliminate West when he 'runs' in 2020? haha



1. Bush was mostly criticized for saying 'dumb' things and appearing to be less than intelligent,, I happened to choose the most RECENT president to compare for the purpose of this thread

2. I dont live in Africa,,,I doubt Kanye was speaking about black people in Africa

3. So , no, it doesnt eliminate Kanye,, he never said Bush hated AFRICANS,, most presidents have never been to AFrica ,,,lol

but americans certainly have 'feelings' when it comes to 'black' americans

:wink:


Ok.. Bush loves africans but hates black americans... thats an interesting observation.

If there is such a difference then why african american?

Maybe black american would be better since there is such a difference... haha..

If the purpose of this is to say that its because Obama is half black and Trump is white with bad hair then just type that.

The point is that regardless of race.. Whether it being mixed as with Obama or white as with Bush the level of respect for the office has diminished.

Clinton was getting blowjobs in the oval office for christ sake.

When the men elected to represent the entire nation sully the prestige of the office by their actions or words then don't be overly sensitive when they get called out for it.

Trump hasn't been elected to s##T yet.. So using him as a comparison is the best route to take.







why the difference? different geography, different culture,, African american keeps the connection to the family that Africans were forced to give up,,,,,


its like the difference between hating Americans and hating southerners,, one is much more specific than the latter

but that doesnt mean the more specific designation has any reason to stop being used,,,


I dont know what hair has to do with this

but, as stated before, character is character,, and if its a character undesirable in a president, than why give support to a presidential candidate that exhibits that undesirable character? let alone cite it as a REASON to support that candidate?


Everyone has a different character and no one is perfect, as we have found in Obama. We have to decide, is one undesirable character worse than one who lies to US.

and Kanye did say. "Bush does not like black people".



Trump lies like his hair,,lol

but in any case,,what Kanye said was 'BUsh does not care about black people'

nothing about AFRICANS (which refers to people living on a CONTINENT, and not the same as 'black')




your right, just testing you.:wink:

InvictusV's photo
Fri 09/11/15 06:50 PM







WHy?

When President OBama made the statement that his son might look like Treyvon,, was it 'divisive' , 'hateful', 'racist'

but when Candidate Trump makes the statement that mexico is sending thieves, rapists and murders and that he at least 'assumes' some of them are 'decent,,,,,is that just 'stating facts'?



When President OBama spoke about himself, even when DIRECTLY asked about himself,, he was a narcisist,

but when Candidate Trump constantly blurts out his Brand and talks about how great he is and how much he has and how his 'women' look, he is just 'stirring things up'?



when President Obama made the statement that A COP going into a mans home ,where that mans pictures are all over the mantles along with his awards and certificates,, to demand he PROVE he lives there,,,,was a STUPID thing to do,,,,, he is branded as 'cop hating' and actually blamed for people choosing to kill cops?


but when Candidate Trump makes repeated statements about womens looks, how his women are so pretty, how ugly Odonnel is, how noone could vote for someone with Clintons face, or even how a Female who questions his is probably 'bleeding from somewhere',,,,,he isnt branded a misogynist, woman hater and he isnt blamed for people harming immigrants even after he responds to an incident where people actually DID beat an immigrant nearly to death by praising the PASSION of his supporters?





,,,,why are such similar behaviors characterized so differently based upon who does them?


Do you forget that Bush was criticized and lampooned for practically everything he said?

No president in history provided more aid to africa than Bush and you had the a$$ clown kanye west publicly say Bush hates black people.

So does that eliminate West when he 'runs' in 2020? haha



1. Bush was mostly criticized for saying 'dumb' things and appearing to be less than intelligent,, I happened to choose the most RECENT president to compare for the purpose of this thread

2. I dont live in Africa,,,I doubt Kanye was speaking about black people in Africa

3. So , no, it doesnt eliminate Kanye,, he never said Bush hated AFRICANS,, most presidents have never been to AFrica ,,,lol

but americans certainly have 'feelings' when it comes to 'black' americans

:wink:


Ok.. Bush loves africans but hates black americans... thats an interesting observation.

If there is such a difference then why african american?

Maybe black american would be better since there is such a difference... haha..

If the purpose of this is to say that its because Obama is half black and Trump is white with bad hair then just type that.

The point is that regardless of race.. Whether it being mixed as with Obama or white as with Bush the level of respect for the office has diminished.

Clinton was getting blowjobs in the oval office for christ sake.

When the men elected to represent the entire nation sully the prestige of the office by their actions or words then don't be overly sensitive when they get called out for it.

Trump hasn't been elected to s##T yet.. So using him as a comparison is the best route to take.







why the difference? different geography, different culture,, African american keeps the connection to the family that Africans were forced to give up,,,,,


its like the difference between hating Americans and hating southerners,, one is much more specific than the latter

but that doesnt mean the more specific designation has any reason to stop being used,,,


I dont know what hair has to do with this

but, as stated before, character is character,, and if its a character undesirable in a president, than why give support to a presidential candidate that exhibits that undesirable character? let alone cite it as a REASON to support that candidate?


Everyone has a different character and no one is perfect, as we have found in Obama. We have to decide, is one undesirable character worse than one who lies to US.

and Kanye did say. "Bush does not like black people".



Trump lies like his hair,,lol

but in any case,,what Kanye said was 'BUsh does not care about black people'

nothing about AFRICANS (which refers to people living on a CONTINENT, and not the same as 'black')




So the vast majority of africans are not black?

I better get my eyes checked..

InvictusV's photo
Fri 09/11/15 06:55 PM







WHy?

When President OBama made the statement that his son might look like Treyvon,, was it 'divisive' , 'hateful', 'racist'

but when Candidate Trump makes the statement that mexico is sending thieves, rapists and murders and that he at least 'assumes' some of them are 'decent,,,,,is that just 'stating facts'?



When President OBama spoke about himself, even when DIRECTLY asked about himself,, he was a narcisist,

but when Candidate Trump constantly blurts out his Brand and talks about how great he is and how much he has and how his 'women' look, he is just 'stirring things up'?



when President Obama made the statement that A COP going into a mans home ,where that mans pictures are all over the mantles along with his awards and certificates,, to demand he PROVE he lives there,,,,was a STUPID thing to do,,,,, he is branded as 'cop hating' and actually blamed for people choosing to kill cops?


but when Candidate Trump makes repeated statements about womens looks, how his women are so pretty, how ugly Odonnel is, how noone could vote for someone with Clintons face, or even how a Female who questions his is probably 'bleeding from somewhere',,,,,he isnt branded a misogynist, woman hater and he isnt blamed for people harming immigrants even after he responds to an incident where people actually DID beat an immigrant nearly to death by praising the PASSION of his supporters?





,,,,why are such similar behaviors characterized so differently based upon who does them?


Do you forget that Bush was criticized and lampooned for practically everything he said?

No president in history provided more aid to africa than Bush and you had the a$$ clown kanye west publicly say Bush hates black people.

So does that eliminate West when he 'runs' in 2020? haha



1. Bush was mostly criticized for saying 'dumb' things and appearing to be less than intelligent,, I happened to choose the most RECENT president to compare for the purpose of this thread

2. I dont live in Africa,,,I doubt Kanye was speaking about black people in Africa

3. So , no, it doesnt eliminate Kanye,, he never said Bush hated AFRICANS,, most presidents have never been to AFrica ,,,lol

but americans certainly have 'feelings' when it comes to 'black' americans

:wink:


Ok.. Bush loves africans but hates black americans... thats an interesting observation.

If there is such a difference then why african american?

Maybe black american would be better since there is such a difference... haha..

If the purpose of this is to say that its because Obama is half black and Trump is white with bad hair then just type that.

The point is that regardless of race.. Whether it being mixed as with Obama or white as with Bush the level of respect for the office has diminished.

Clinton was getting blowjobs in the oval office for christ sake.

When the men elected to represent the entire nation sully the prestige of the office by their actions or words then don't be overly sensitive when they get called out for it.

Trump hasn't been elected to s##T yet.. So using him as a comparison is the best route to take.







why the difference? different geography, different culture,, African american keeps the connection to the family that Africans were forced to give up,,,,,


its like the difference between hating Americans and hating southerners,, one is much more specific than the latter

but that doesnt mean the more specific designation has any reason to stop being used,,,


I dont know what hair has to do with this

but, as stated before, character is character,, and if its a character undesirable in a president, than why give support to a presidential candidate that exhibits that undesirable character? let alone cite it as a REASON to support that candidate?


No one has voted yet Ms Harmony.

Just because Trump leads now doesn't mean he will win a single state during the actual process.

Crazy Howard Dean was leading all the polls back in 2003 going into Iowa and didn't win the nomination.

You are putting the cart before the horse here.


I understand. however he has alot of support and accolades for things that the sitting president was ostracized for,,

I am only commenting on those who I actually remember slamming some things about Obama that are now endorsing and cheering Trump for similar things,,,,


:smile:


I don't see anyone giving accolades to Trump over what he said about Fiorina.

The majority of the right wing media has excoriated him for it.

The idea of him saying whatever he wants with no regard to consequence is refreshing to some people. There are many that are fed up with the PC BS.

That doesn't mean that when the time comes to vote they will choose him.

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Fri 09/11/15 06:56 PM
Edited by msharmony on Fri 09/11/15 06:57 PM








WHy?

When President OBama made the statement that his son might look like Treyvon,, was it 'divisive' , 'hateful', 'racist'

but when Candidate Trump makes the statement that mexico is sending thieves, rapists and murders and that he at least 'assumes' some of them are 'decent,,,,,is that just 'stating facts'?



When President OBama spoke about himself, even when DIRECTLY asked about himself,, he was a narcisist,

but when Candidate Trump constantly blurts out his Brand and talks about how great he is and how much he has and how his 'women' look, he is just 'stirring things up'?



when President Obama made the statement that A COP going into a mans home ,where that mans pictures are all over the mantles along with his awards and certificates,, to demand he PROVE he lives there,,,,was a STUPID thing to do,,,,, he is branded as 'cop hating' and actually blamed for people choosing to kill cops?


but when Candidate Trump makes repeated statements about womens looks, how his women are so pretty, how ugly Odonnel is, how noone could vote for someone with Clintons face, or even how a Female who questions his is probably 'bleeding from somewhere',,,,,he isnt branded a misogynist, woman hater and he isnt blamed for people harming immigrants even after he responds to an incident where people actually DID beat an immigrant nearly to death by praising the PASSION of his supporters?





,,,,why are such similar behaviors characterized so differently based upon who does them?


Do you forget that Bush was criticized and lampooned for practically everything he said?

No president in history provided more aid to africa than Bush and you had the a$$ clown kanye west publicly say Bush hates black people.

So does that eliminate West when he 'runs' in 2020? haha



1. Bush was mostly criticized for saying 'dumb' things and appearing to be less than intelligent,, I happened to choose the most RECENT president to compare for the purpose of this thread

2. I dont live in Africa,,,I doubt Kanye was speaking about black people in Africa

3. So , no, it doesnt eliminate Kanye,, he never said Bush hated AFRICANS,, most presidents have never been to AFrica ,,,lol

but americans certainly have 'feelings' when it comes to 'black' americans

:wink:


Ok.. Bush loves africans but hates black americans... thats an interesting observation.

If there is such a difference then why african american?

Maybe black american would be better since there is such a difference... haha..

If the purpose of this is to say that its because Obama is half black and Trump is white with bad hair then just type that.

The point is that regardless of race.. Whether it being mixed as with Obama or white as with Bush the level of respect for the office has diminished.

Clinton was getting blowjobs in the oval office for christ sake.

When the men elected to represent the entire nation sully the prestige of the office by their actions or words then don't be overly sensitive when they get called out for it.

Trump hasn't been elected to s##T yet.. So using him as a comparison is the best route to take.







why the difference? different geography, different culture,, African american keeps the connection to the family that Africans were forced to give up,,,,,


its like the difference between hating Americans and hating southerners,, one is much more specific than the latter

but that doesnt mean the more specific designation has any reason to stop being used,,,


I dont know what hair has to do with this

but, as stated before, character is character,, and if its a character undesirable in a president, than why give support to a presidential candidate that exhibits that undesirable character? let alone cite it as a REASON to support that candidate?


Everyone has a different character and no one is perfect, as we have found in Obama. We have to decide, is one undesirable character worse than one who lies to US.

and Kanye did say. "Bush does not like black people".



Trump lies like his hair,,lol

but in any case,,what Kanye said was 'BUsh does not care about black people'

nothing about AFRICANS (which refers to people living on a CONTINENT, and not the same as 'black')




So the vast majority of africans are not black?

I better get my eyes checked..



yes, and the vast majority of americans are female

but that doesnt make Female american and american synonymous,,,


african blacks and american blacks are also not synonymous,, though african american and black africans have common ancestry,,:wink:

msharmony's photo
Fri 09/11/15 07:02 PM








WHy?

When President OBama made the statement that his son might look like Treyvon,, was it 'divisive' , 'hateful', 'racist'

but when Candidate Trump makes the statement that mexico is sending thieves, rapists and murders and that he at least 'assumes' some of them are 'decent,,,,,is that just 'stating facts'?



When President OBama spoke about himself, even when DIRECTLY asked about himself,, he was a narcisist,

but when Candidate Trump constantly blurts out his Brand and talks about how great he is and how much he has and how his 'women' look, he is just 'stirring things up'?



when President Obama made the statement that A COP going into a mans home ,where that mans pictures are all over the mantles along with his awards and certificates,, to demand he PROVE he lives there,,,,was a STUPID thing to do,,,,, he is branded as 'cop hating' and actually blamed for people choosing to kill cops?


but when Candidate Trump makes repeated statements about womens looks, how his women are so pretty, how ugly Odonnel is, how noone could vote for someone with Clintons face, or even how a Female who questions his is probably 'bleeding from somewhere',,,,,he isnt branded a misogynist, woman hater and he isnt blamed for people harming immigrants even after he responds to an incident where people actually DID beat an immigrant nearly to death by praising the PASSION of his supporters?





,,,,why are such similar behaviors characterized so differently based upon who does them?


Do you forget that Bush was criticized and lampooned for practically everything he said?

No president in history provided more aid to africa than Bush and you had the a$$ clown kanye west publicly say Bush hates black people.

So does that eliminate West when he 'runs' in 2020? haha



1. Bush was mostly criticized for saying 'dumb' things and appearing to be less than intelligent,, I happened to choose the most RECENT president to compare for the purpose of this thread

2. I dont live in Africa,,,I doubt Kanye was speaking about black people in Africa

3. So , no, it doesnt eliminate Kanye,, he never said Bush hated AFRICANS,, most presidents have never been to AFrica ,,,lol

but americans certainly have 'feelings' when it comes to 'black' americans

:wink:


Ok.. Bush loves africans but hates black americans... thats an interesting observation.

If there is such a difference then why african american?

Maybe black american would be better since there is such a difference... haha..

If the purpose of this is to say that its because Obama is half black and Trump is white with bad hair then just type that.

The point is that regardless of race.. Whether it being mixed as with Obama or white as with Bush the level of respect for the office has diminished.

Clinton was getting blowjobs in the oval office for christ sake.

When the men elected to represent the entire nation sully the prestige of the office by their actions or words then don't be overly sensitive when they get called out for it.

Trump hasn't been elected to s##T yet.. So using him as a comparison is the best route to take.







why the difference? different geography, different culture,, African american keeps the connection to the family that Africans were forced to give up,,,,,


its like the difference between hating Americans and hating southerners,, one is much more specific than the latter

but that doesnt mean the more specific designation has any reason to stop being used,,,


I dont know what hair has to do with this

but, as stated before, character is character,, and if its a character undesirable in a president, than why give support to a presidential candidate that exhibits that undesirable character? let alone cite it as a REASON to support that candidate?


No one has voted yet Ms Harmony.

Just because Trump leads now doesn't mean he will win a single state during the actual process.

Crazy Howard Dean was leading all the polls back in 2003 going into Iowa and didn't win the nomination.

You are putting the cart before the horse here.


I understand. however he has alot of support and accolades for things that the sitting president was ostracized for,,

I am only commenting on those who I actually remember slamming some things about Obama that are now endorsing and cheering Trump for similar things,,,,


:smile:


I don't see anyone giving accolades to Trump over what he said about Fiorina.

The majority of the right wing media has excoriated him for it.

The idea of him saying whatever he wants with no regard to consequence is refreshing to some people. There are many that are fed up with the PC BS.

That doesn't mean that when the time comes to vote they will choose him.



that's the point, they don't give him accolades but supporters are obviously not condemning him for it either or deeming him 'divisive'
or 'sexist'(to compare with Obama being racist or cop hating when he mentions race or judges a cop)

I hope you are correct about people supporting him but not electing him


no photo
Fri 09/11/15 07:12 PM
well right now (Perry dropped out) the comparison should be between Hillary and Trump. One lies like a rug and the other tells it like it is. People like that. Trump scares the hell out of the Dims.laugh

InvictusV's photo
Fri 09/11/15 07:41 PM









WHy?

When President OBama made the statement that his son might look like Treyvon,, was it 'divisive' , 'hateful', 'racist'

but when Candidate Trump makes the statement that mexico is sending thieves, rapists and murders and that he at least 'assumes' some of them are 'decent,,,,,is that just 'stating facts'?



When President OBama spoke about himself, even when DIRECTLY asked about himself,, he was a narcisist,

but when Candidate Trump constantly blurts out his Brand and talks about how great he is and how much he has and how his 'women' look, he is just 'stirring things up'?



when President Obama made the statement that A COP going into a mans home ,where that mans pictures are all over the mantles along with his awards and certificates,, to demand he PROVE he lives there,,,,was a STUPID thing to do,,,,, he is branded as 'cop hating' and actually blamed for people choosing to kill cops?


but when Candidate Trump makes repeated statements about womens looks, how his women are so pretty, how ugly Odonnel is, how noone could vote for someone with Clintons face, or even how a Female who questions his is probably 'bleeding from somewhere',,,,,he isnt branded a misogynist, woman hater and he isnt blamed for people harming immigrants even after he responds to an incident where people actually DID beat an immigrant nearly to death by praising the PASSION of his supporters?





,,,,why are such similar behaviors characterized so differently based upon who does them?


Do you forget that Bush was criticized and lampooned for practically everything he said?

No president in history provided more aid to africa than Bush and you had the a$$ clown kanye west publicly say Bush hates black people.

So does that eliminate West when he 'runs' in 2020? haha



1. Bush was mostly criticized for saying 'dumb' things and appearing to be less than intelligent,, I happened to choose the most RECENT president to compare for the purpose of this thread

2. I dont live in Africa,,,I doubt Kanye was speaking about black people in Africa

3. So , no, it doesnt eliminate Kanye,, he never said Bush hated AFRICANS,, most presidents have never been to AFrica ,,,lol

but americans certainly have 'feelings' when it comes to 'black' americans

:wink:


Ok.. Bush loves africans but hates black americans... thats an interesting observation.

If there is such a difference then why african american?

Maybe black american would be better since there is such a difference... haha..

If the purpose of this is to say that its because Obama is half black and Trump is white with bad hair then just type that.

The point is that regardless of race.. Whether it being mixed as with Obama or white as with Bush the level of respect for the office has diminished.

Clinton was getting blowjobs in the oval office for christ sake.

When the men elected to represent the entire nation sully the prestige of the office by their actions or words then don't be overly sensitive when they get called out for it.

Trump hasn't been elected to s##T yet.. So using him as a comparison is the best route to take.







why the difference? different geography, different culture,, African american keeps the connection to the family that Africans were forced to give up,,,,,


its like the difference between hating Americans and hating southerners,, one is much more specific than the latter

but that doesnt mean the more specific designation has any reason to stop being used,,,


I dont know what hair has to do with this

but, as stated before, character is character,, and if its a character undesirable in a president, than why give support to a presidential candidate that exhibits that undesirable character? let alone cite it as a REASON to support that candidate?


No one has voted yet Ms Harmony.

Just because Trump leads now doesn't mean he will win a single state during the actual process.

Crazy Howard Dean was leading all the polls back in 2003 going into Iowa and didn't win the nomination.

You are putting the cart before the horse here.


I understand. however he has alot of support and accolades for things that the sitting president was ostracized for,,

I am only commenting on those who I actually remember slamming some things about Obama that are now endorsing and cheering Trump for similar things,,,,


:smile:


I don't see anyone giving accolades to Trump over what he said about Fiorina.

The majority of the right wing media has excoriated him for it.

The idea of him saying whatever he wants with no regard to consequence is refreshing to some people. There are many that are fed up with the PC BS.

That doesn't mean that when the time comes to vote they will choose him.



that's the point, they don't give him accolades but supporters are obviously not condemning him for it either or deeming him 'divisive'
or 'sexist'(to compare with Obama being racist or cop hating when he mentions race or judges a cop)

I hope you are correct about people supporting him but not electing him




He is Howard Dean. He is not going to win the nomination. Dean was something new. His stupid sweaters with the rolled up sleeves. He talked the talk, but had no substance or policy to back it up.


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Sat 09/12/15 07:32 PM


Then dont vote for him but all illegals are criminals

Thus the word illegal

Why is it obama is not having doj go after this hate groups

His inaction is an endorsement of their actions

I am sure if a white supremist group started cting like these blA supremist groups and people started dieing the doj would be responding Again like i 50s & 60s


doj doesnt 'go after' hate groups unless they commit CRIMES,,lol

otherwise freedom of speech and right to guns pretty much protects their behavior,,,


Very few presidents have 'gone' after all the hate groups, they would rarely accomplish anything else if

they did,,,lol

that has nothing to do with endorsing them


I dont know who BLA is, and people have always been dying.


So the dead cops being murdered and those publicly calling
for this to happen is not a crime ,,,,,,, inciting murder is wrong
and those doing it should be charged as an assessory b4 the fact

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Sat 09/12/15 08:29 PM






WHy?

When President OBama made the statement that his son might look like Treyvon,, was it 'divisive' , 'hateful', 'racist'

but when Candidate Trump makes the statement that mexico is sending thieves, rapists and murders and that he at least 'assumes' some of them are 'decent,,,,,is that just 'stating facts'?



When President OBama spoke about himself, even when DIRECTLY asked about himself,, he was a narcisist,

but when Candidate Trump constantly blurts out his Brand and talks about how great he is and how much he has and how his 'women' look, he is just 'stirring things up'?



when President Obama made the statement that A COP going into a mans home ,where that mans pictures are all over the mantles along with his awards and certificates,, to demand he PROVE he lives there,,,,was a STUPID thing to do,,,,, he is branded as 'cop hating' and actually blamed for people choosing to kill cops?


but when Candidate Trump makes repeated statements about womens looks, how his women are so pretty, how ugly Odonnel is, how noone could vote for someone with Clintons face, or even how a Female who questions his is probably 'bleeding from somewhere',,,,,he isnt branded a misogynist, woman hater and he isnt blamed for people harming immigrants even after he responds to an incident where people actually DID beat an immigrant nearly to death by praising the PASSION of his supporters?





,,,,why are such similar behaviors characterized so differently based upon who does them?


Do you forget that Bush was criticized and lampooned for practically everything he said?

No president in history provided more aid to africa than Bush and you had the a$$ clown kanye west publicly say Bush hates black people.

So does that eliminate West when he 'runs' in 2020? haha



1. Bush was mostly criticized for saying 'dumb' things and appearing to be less than intelligent,, I happened to choose the most RECENT president to compare for the purpose of this thread

2. I dont live in Africa,,,I doubt Kanye was speaking about black people in Africa

3. So , no, it doesnt eliminate Kanye,, he never said Bush hated AFRICANS,, most presidents have never been to AFrica ,,,lol

but americans certainly have 'feelings' when it comes to 'black' americans

:wink:


Ok.. Bush loves africans but hates black americans... thats an interesting observation.

If there is such a difference then why african american?

Maybe black american would be better since there is such a difference... haha..

If the purpose of this is to say that its because Obama is half black and Trump is white with bad hair then just type that.

The point is that regardless of race.. Whether it being mixed as with Obama or white as with Bush the level of respect for the office has diminished.

Clinton was getting blowjobs in the oval office for christ sake.

When the men elected to represent the entire nation sully the prestige of the office by their actions or words then don't be overly sensitive when they get called out for it.

Trump hasn't been elected to s##T yet.. So using him as a comparison is the best route to take.







why the difference? different geography, different culture,, African american keeps the connection to the family that Africans were forced to give up,,,,,


its like the difference between hating Americans and hating southerners,, one is much more specific than the latter

but that doesnt mean the more specific designation has any reason to stop being used,,,


I dont know what hair has to do with this

but, as stated before, character is character,, and if its a character undesirable in a president, than why give support to a presidential candidate that exhibits that undesirable character? let alone cite it as a REASON to support that candidate?


No one has voted yet Ms Harmony.

Just because Trump leads now doesn't mean he will win a single state during the actual process.

Crazy Howard Dean was leading all the polls back in 2003 going into Iowa and didn't win the nomination.

You are putting the cart before the horse here.

lol... H. Dean went away because he gave a beta howl when an alpha shout was needed.

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Sun 09/13/15 10:47 AM

well right now (Perry dropped out) the comparison should be between Hillary and Trump. One lies like a rug and the other tells it like it is. People like that. Trump scares the hell out of the Dims.laugh


The idea of the self obsessed bullying billioniare as president should scare anyone with a brain


and it does

including MANY republicans,,,,

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Sun 09/13/15 10:52 AM



Then dont vote for him but all illegals are criminals

Thus the word illegal

Why is it obama is not having doj go after this hate groups

His inaction is an endorsement of their actions

I am sure if a white supremist group started cting like these blA supremist groups and people started dieing the doj would be responding Again like i 50s & 60s


doj doesnt 'go after' hate groups unless they commit CRIMES,,lol

otherwise freedom of speech and right to guns pretty much protects their behavior,,,


Very few presidents have 'gone' after all the hate groups, they would rarely accomplish anything else if

they did,,,lol

that has nothing to do with endorsing them


I dont know who BLA is, and people have always been dying.


So the dead cops being murdered and those publicly calling
for this to happen is not a crime ,,,,,,, inciting murder is wrong
and those doing it should be charged as an assessory b4 the fact



what?
dead cops is actually a CAPITAL crime that has occurred long before the BLM movement started

and the individuals 'calling' for it, dpeending upon their words, may be guilty of either inciting or protected by free speech


and neither of the above relates to BLM allegedly being a 'hate group', as opposed to a group (which has foolishly not protected their name, imho) started to encourage better relationships between police and the community they serve


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