Usually, kids get genital organs that correlate with that gender, which is finished looooong before the body only starts developing (during pregnancy).

When something goes wrong, causing a mutation or a genetic mistake, a child who's brain is female gets male organs, or the opposite.

The brain can't be changed: the gender of the child is the very first thing that gets determined, at the second of its conception, depending on the spermcell of the father.

Feelings or emotions have absolutely nothing to do with this problem: it is genetic, not mental, and certainly not "emotional".

....a penis does not make a man, a uterus does not make a woman. Your gender is in your brain, not between your legs, and neither are anybody's. Life is not that simple.

Sorry, miss Tulip, Tourette and GDS are both about behavior. They have a lot in common: both are innate, uncontrollable (by the patient), and very disturbing for uninformed others. So are all dysfunctions that make a person behave in a way people don't expect others to behave, mainly "contradictory to their appearance".

I am not the one who used the word bigoted. But what you would not like to do can be to have to undress in the company of someone with a penis, but it can be just as well to have to be called all sorts of weird and unpleasant things in a very loud manner by a Tourette patient. So there too, there is no difference. Whatever you don't like depends on you, not on the patient you are facing. Some people aren't even accepting to allow people who are handicapped in some way; it all depends on their level of tolerance towards handicaps and disorders, and their level of knowledge about different handicaps and disorders.
I just above mentioned the phenomenon of hermaphroditism: that is, as I explained, a baby born with both a penis, testicles, a vagina, a uterus and ovaries. All on one baby. Now, do I ask you, would you say that is a girl or a boy? Is that baby two babies, inside one body? No, that is only one baby, with one gender. The other set is a Natural mistake. Only, which one? Nobody can tell, except the baby, who is too young. That is the proof that babies can be born with the wrong genitals. Sometimes the opposite happens: babies with agenesis are babies born with no genitals at all. Are those genderless babies? NO, they are either boys or girls, only, from the outside no one can see which. The only one who does know is the baby itself, and it will tell you after it's old enough to speak. Another proof that a penis, a uterus, all that stuff is just secondary, contrary to the center in the brain called BED Nucleus of the Stria Terminalus, a little part of the brain inside the Hypotalamus, which determines the actual gender of the baby. Usually, kids get genital organs that correlate with that gender, which is finished looooong before the body only starts developing (during pregnancy). When something goes wrong, causing a mutation or a genetic mistake, a child who's brain is female gets male organs, or the opposite. The brain can't be changed: the gender of the child is the very first thing that gets determined, at the second of its conception, depending on the spermcell of the father. You do know that, don't you? Well, that means whatever goes wrong afterwards is a mistake, and shouldn't be considered the only thing on which to determine the REAL gender of the child, as you do. (and most other people). Hermafrodite children, Agenese children and transgender children are all in the same position: they have been conceived as belonging to one gender or the other, and their body has decided to create the wrong genital organs (either two contradictory sets, or none at all, or the opposite type). All this happens before the child is born and therefor one can hardly blame the child.
Really, you don't say? Well, what I just explained above prooves it isn't all that simple, unfortunately...

This only tells me that you don't really grasp the meaning of the term "gender", since gender and sex are actually synonymous. There is only one gender: the one in the brain. Whatever is visible on the body is only secondary, and whether you have the correct set is rather a genetical Russian roulette: it can be either wrong or right. But it says NOTHING about your gender.

This again prooves you need information about the problem, just as anybody else, apparently. Feelings or emotions have absolutely nothing to do with this problem: it is genetic, not mental, and certainly not "emotional".
The problem with most people is that they focus too much on the exterior. "What you see is what you get" is an idiom that is not to be applied to the phenomenon of GDS. Not anymore than to Hermafroditism or Agenesis. The problem lies exactly in the fact, that you DON'T see what you get, but the opposite!
So, miss Tulip, a penis does not make a man, a uterus does not make a woman. Your gender is in your brain, not between your legs, and neither are anybody's. Life is not that simple.

Here is also an article on the side effects of prescription drugs during pregnancy

Prescription drugs and pregnancy.

Webster WS1, Freeman JA.



Author information



Abstract

Prescribing drugs in pregnancy is an unusual risk-benefit situation. Drugs that may be of benefit or even life-saving to the mother can deform or kill the fetus. However, the risk to the fetus should not be exaggerated. There are only approximately 20 drugs or groups of drugs which are known to cause birth defects in humans. For one of these drugs to cause birth defects, a number of criteria must be fulfilled. The drug exposure must take place at a critical stage of pregnancy and the dose must be high enough to cause a threshold of exposure for an appropriate duration of time. For most of the known human teratogens, > 90% of pregnancies exposed during the first trimester result in normal offspring. Although only a few drugs are known to cause birth defects in humans, uncertainty about the safety of the majority may lead to underprescribing for pregnant women and women of childbearing age. Epidemiological studies of pregnancy outcome after specific drug exposures are often superficially reassuring, but most are severely limited in their power to detect adverse outcomes. Safety in animal studies may also be reassuring but species differences demand caution in this interpretation. Concerns about prescription drugs in the first trimester, when they can cause birth defects, are mostly quite different to concerns about use in the second and third trimesters. As the fetal organ systems mature, the fetus can be affected by the pharmacological activity of the drug in the same way as the mother. Many drugs have pharmacological effects on the fetus in the second and third trimesters but in most cases, they are well recognised and can be managed or avoided. The material presented in this paper is mostly concerned with the 'risks' associated with drugs in pregnancy. No attempt has been made to quantitate the possible benefits to the mother or fetus. Communicating the risk-benefit situation to the patient is always a challenge for physicians with limited time and sometimes limited knowledge. Fear of litigation is an unfortunate and an unwanted parameter in the assessment. Better knowledge of the parameters that determine teratogenicity may allow physicians to feel more confident in assessing the risks and benefits associated with prescribing in pregnancy.


PMID: 12783591 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

Causes of Gender Dysphoria


By Dr Ananya Mandal, MD

Gender dysphoria usually means a difficulty in identifying with the biological sex in an individual.
The causes of gender dysphoria are not fully clear.
Psychiatric and biological causes
It was traditionally thought to be a psychiatric condition meaning a mental ailment. Now there is evidence that the disease may not have origins in the brain alone.
Studies suggest that gender dysphoria may have biological causes associated with the development of gender identity before birth.
More research is needed before the causes of gender dysphoria can be fully understood.
Genetic causes of biological sex
Research suggests that development that determines biological sex happens in the mother’s womb.
Anatomical sex is determined by chromosomes that contain the genes and DNA.
Each individual has two sex chromosomes. One of the chromosomes is from the father and the other from the mother.
A normal man has an X and a Y sex chromosome and a normal woman has two X chromosomes.
It is seen that during early pregnancy, all unborn babies are female because only the female sex chromosome (or the X chromosome) that is inherited from the mother being the active one.
After the eighth week of pregnancy, the chromosome from the father (an X for a female and a Y for the male), gains in activity.
If the father’s contribution is the X chromosome the baby continues to develop as female with a surge of female hormones.
This helps develop her female sex organs, reproductive organs and features. This makes her sex and gender female.
If the inherited chromosome from the father is a Y there is a surge of testosterone and other male hormones that lead to development of male characteristics, such as testes.
This makes the baby’s sex and gender male. (1)
Causes of gender differences
There are several different potential causes of gender differences, these include hormonal changes, exposure to estrogenic drugs and so forth. (1-4)
Hormonal causes
Hormones that trigger the development of sex and gender in the womb may not function adequately.
For example, anatomical sex from the genitals may be male, while the gender identity that comes from the brain could be female.
This may result from the excess female hormones from the mother’s system or by the foetus’s insensitivity to the hormones.
The latter condition is called androgen insensitivity syndrome (AIS).
Exposure to progesterone or other estrogenic drugs
Although there is no research that shows that males or females exposed to progesterone in the womb or other estrogenic drugs, such as diethylstilbestrol (DES) may have a raised risk of gender dysphoria; there may be an association in some atypical aspects of gender role behavior.
Rare conditions that may lead to gender dysphoria
There may be rare conditions like congenital adrenal hyperplasia (CAH), and intersex conditions (also known as hermaphroditism) which may also result in gender dysphoria.
In CAH a female foetus has adrenal glands (small caps of glands over the kidneys) that produce high level of male hormones. This enlarges the female genitals and the female baby may be confused with a male at birth.
Intersex conditions mean babies may be born with the genitalia of both sexes. In these cases the child is allowed to grow and choose his or her own before any surgery is carried out to confirm it.

bathrooms are built around the 'exterior',, the anatomy being used,,

if you have a penis,, you should go where it was built for penis
if you have a vagina , you should go where it was built for vaginas

I dont know why people complicate things

This basically says a few things with certainty.
1. That we all started out as phenotypically female even if some of us are genotypically male. ( That is a known fact.)
2. Mutations in genes can cause hormonal disorders. (Mutations in genes are caused by several factors. Some are spontaneous)
3. Hormonal disorder may affect brain function and may cause gender dysphoria. (This is acceptable. Even women taking testosterone and men taking estrogen can experience this.)
4. Gender dysphoria is present in those with ambiguous genitalia. (This is acceptable. The fact that the genitalia is obviously not clear upon birth, is sometimes reason for early surgical or medical gender re/assignment, to avoid the future confusion of the child)
5. Actual individual gender identity is a function and interplay of several factors. (Some would even encourage those without gender dysphoria to have a gender identity crisis)



The question remains...what about bathrooms..?

Exactly.

since gender vs sex is such a complicated issue now,,,,perhaps we should just change the names on the bathroom from womens and mens , to PENIS STALLs, and VAGINA STALLS

Well as I mentioned before Ontario is initiating a sex ed curriculum that includes

DETAILS OF ONTARIO'S CONTROVERSIAL SEX-ED CURRICULUM

Lessons begin on gender identity and sexual orientation. That also includes lessons on respecting differences in cultural values, beliefs and family background.

Students will discuss negative stereotypes, including assumptions about gender roles, sexual orientation, gender expression, race and sexual health. Students will also learn how to make decisions that reflect respect for others and about building healthy relationships. Teacher prompts regarding masturbation are also included in the curriculum — for cases in which students ask about the subject.


regarding bathrooms I as a parent I probably would have went with a private bathroom.

thank you, thank you,, I try

ya know, sometimes I dont feel so tall, but they still dont let me ride the kiddy rides.. it says 'this tall',, period,,,

Mr.Cieper,
I am not the poster on any of your above quotes.
Just wanted to let you know.
Tulip

since gender vs sex is such a complicated issue now,,,,perhaps we should just change the names on the bathroom from womens and mens , to PENIS STALLs, and VAGINA STALLS