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Topic: Missouri- Protests Over Transgender Issue
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Tue 09/01/15 02:33 PM
Edited by SassyEuro2 on Tue 09/01/15 02:38 PM
http://www.kmov.com/story/29926467/hillsboro-high-school-students-stage-walkout-in-dispute-over-transgender-student/

Aug 31, 2015
By Dan Greenwald,

(KMOV.com) – More than 150 students walked out of Hillsboro High School over a dispute about the use of the girl’s locker room by a transgender student.

The walkout lasted for about two hours. Roughly 30-40 people showed support for senior Lila Perry, who wants to use the girls’ locker room during gym class. Perry was born a male but said she has identified as a female since 13.
“There’s a lot of ignorance, they are claiming that they’re uncomfortable. I don’t believe for a second that they are. I think this is pure and simple bigotry,” said Perry.
A short distance away, a counter protest was being held by people claiming they have relatives at the high school.
“Boys needs to have their own locker room. Girls need to have their own locker room and if somebody has mixed feelings where they are, they need to have their own also,” said protester Jeff Childs.
Perry told News 4 school officials have been accommodating, understanding, and compliant with Title IX. The school offered her a private gender-neutral restroom, which she turned down.
“I wasn’t hurting anyone and I didn’t want to feel segregated out. I didn’t want to be in the gender neutral bathroom. I am girl, I shouldn’t be pushed off to another bathroom,” said Perry.
Some parents have asked if it is an act by Perry to get into the girls’ bathroom. A veteran gender therapist says it is not a ruse.
“That’s really important for many people to know and parents to know, that a person does not choose this, they really don’t. They know it very early on and are in a great deal of pain,” said Patricia Berne.
Out of concern for own safety, Perry dropped out of gym class. She plans to continue to use the girl’s restroom.

KMOV.com


msharmony's photo
Tue 09/01/15 03:06 PM
But its not just about one student. Whether he/she 'feels' more like one gender than another,, their ANATOMY either fits in one bathroom or the other, and if those two choices arent enough, the third 'neutral' choice seems more than reasonable..



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Tue 09/01/15 03:15 PM
Edited by RebelArcher on Tue 09/01/15 03:19 PM
From another article about the story....




http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/education/hillsboro-high-students-walk-out-over-transgender-dispute/article_be488fab-d239-5944-9733-32f569dcdc32.html

Dude....at least try to look like a girl if youre trying to scope out girls in the ladies locker room laugh

Cieper's photo
Tue 09/01/15 03:18 PM
Gender dysforism syndrome (the medical term for what is commonly named "transgenerism" and formerly, even more erroneously "transsexuality", although it has nothing whatsoever to do with sexuality) is a medical condition, genetic and inborn. It is not a matter of morals.
The fact that people feel "uncomfortable" around a person with this condition is the same as when unprepared people suddenly face someone with Tourette, or autism. All these conditions come with behaviour that can give cause to misunderstandings in uninformed persons.
Patients with Tourette see people get angry at them, or scared because of the unpredictable and unvoluntary outbursts of vocalisation, thinking they are getting abused or mocked. Yet, when you know this patient has no control at all over it, you understand there is no reason to take it that way!
Autists are often called stubborn, untreatable or retarded.
Now a girl, who much to her dismal was born with male organs, is taken for a boy with an exaggerated level of effeminate behaviour, which is "not normal".
She is bound to be taken for a boy, not a girl; as long as not everyone in the world is taught (at school, for instance) that the gender identity of a human being sits in the brain and not in the body, and a person can be of any gender undepending of their body parts, people will look at a person and judge him/her by the outside appearance. They will see a boy, and will insist on forcing that kid to behave like a boy, because they don't know they are making a mistake.
If they knew GDS is an innate genetic disorder of the type of hermafroditism (baby born with 2 complete but oposite sets of genitals, which in reality are only one baby, with only one gender -obviously-! but nobody knows which one, except the baby him/herself who's too young to tell, and the other set of genitals being a mistake of Nature), so long will people go weird around transgenders. In countries where morals are less influenced by fanatically intolerant religiosity, it will be easier; but it won't dissappear completely until everyone will be informed of the medical facts of this disorder.
In former centuries, people used to think epileptics were bewitched. Now everyone knows a spell of epilepsy is an electric short-circuit in the brain. We don't see the family of an epileptic patient looking around for someone in to blame for it and accuse them of witchcraft, and not rest until someone is burnt at the stake. We know that has been discarded as a definite mistake.

Therefore, my solution for the problems transgender kids face would be: education! Information! Explanation!
If everybody knows a transgender girl is a GIRL, and not a boy, nobody would mind she is allowed a girl's locker. Girls belong with girls, whatever their body is like. They haven't made it themselves, it's not their fault....
The same goes for transgender boys, of course.
Socrates said it already: Ignorance it the greatest evil.

msharmony's photo
Tue 09/01/15 03:26 PM
Edited by msharmony on Tue 09/01/15 03:27 PM
no, I beg to differ

tourette is about uncontrollable BEHAVIOR,,

your anatomy is your anatomy,, its not under anyoens control, it just IS

and if I would not like to go to a very private area to do a very private thing with someone who has to pull their dick out,,, excuse the french, I should not be shamed or guilted into feeling like I am somehow bigoted about a 'medical condition'



I dont care how one is behaving,, if they have a PENIS, they are not a female, and I am,, and we dont need to do our most private disrobed business in the same room,,,

a female , produces the half of us called the EGG and carries life through something called a UTERUS

a male, produces the other half of us, called the sperm, and impregnates females through a delivery venue called a PENIS


all this 'gender identity' doesnt change that



Bathrooms are built based upon SEX, not upon GENDER
you dont go to the toilet with your feelings,, but with your anatomy

a transgender girl is a MALE that has emotions that dont 'match' their anatomy (talk about deciding what feelings one should have based upon their anatomy , huh?_


a transgefer male is a girl that has emotions that dont 'match' their anatomy


in essence, like most all other types of humans, a person who isnt COMFORTABLE with what the skin they are in,,




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Tue 09/01/15 03:29 PM
and if I would not like to go to a very private
area to do a very private thing with someone
who has to pull their dick out,,, excuse the
french, I should not be shamed or guilted into
feeling like I am somehow bigoted about a
'medical condition'
PREACH girl! drinker

msharmony's photo
Tue 09/01/15 03:35 PM
sorry about the language

just a pet peeve that in that most private situation I have to be 'tolerant' of what someone else feels about their own anatomy or be a bad person, and they can insist they have no responsibility to be 'tolerant' of how I feel about mine,,,


mightymoe's photo
Tue 09/01/15 03:45 PM
i think i will start using the womens bathroom... and not wiping the seat when i'm done...bigsmile

msharmony's photo
Tue 09/01/15 03:48 PM
gross,,lol

the times we live in,,,smh,,,,

Rock's photo
Tue 09/01/15 04:10 PM
By trying to change what they are,
it's my opinion, that trannies lost all rights to "declare" a gender, and should be banned from using any gender identified facility.

Boys, girls, "it".

Freakshow belongs at the circus.

tulip2633's photo
Tue 09/01/15 04:13 PM
It's an anatomy issue plain and simple being twisted into an issue of bigotry.


For me, 'Whichever' doesn't work with the public school system.



I'm sure it would not be difficult to come up with a countersuit, for many parents.

msharmony's photo
Tue 09/01/15 04:15 PM
they arent freaks

they have mental conditions that wont let them accept the FULLY FUNCTIONAL anatomy they were born with


but that doesnt mean that those of us who can should ignore what anatomy they were born with,,,



I believe there should be a trans bathroom. for those who have some other issue that doesnt 'coincide' with their anatomy


maybe have individual stalls inside that have both the urinal and the traditional toilet


if a 'socially identified' female isn't comfortable in a bathroom with penises(men's room) why should a natural anatomical female be forced to feel as if they should be(penises in the women's room)?

if you arent comfortable amongst those with your UROLOGICAL anatomy, share the toilet with others who arent comfortable either,,,,isntead of disrupting everyone else,,,





TMommy's photo
Tue 09/01/15 04:21 PM
at one time schools were segregated..according to race
but then we changed that
all races, nationalities, cultures are accepted

at one time we said the Pledge of Allegiance
and assumed all children came from good Christian two parent homes

but then we changed that and took God out
turned Christmas vacation into a Winter break
all religions are accepted/tolerated

gay/lesbian rights in schools have already come to forefront
anti-bullying campaigns are in place to protect the rights of students


this is in my opinion the next thing on the agenda

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Tue 09/01/15 04:23 PM

By trying to change what they are,
it's my opinion, that trannies lost all rights to "declare" a gender, and should be banned from using any gender identified facility.

Boys, girls, "it".

Freakshow belongs at the circus.

yep, I wouldn't want some freak, because that's what they are, sharing a changing room with my daughter.

msharmony's photo
Tue 09/01/15 04:25 PM
however, school is not necessarily meant to be about pledges or race or anything else

but HUMANS need to poop and/or pee, including students

and they should not be forced to share the bathroom with the opposite sex.....thats not about bigotry, thats about the PURPOSE of a bathroom and putting bathrooms up based upon the biological process it will fulfill

one room for those who have to pee through the vagina, another for those who have to pee through a penis,,

why is that anything like 'discrimination',,,,its based purely in the ANATOMY of relieving ourselves,,lol

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Tue 09/01/15 04:27 PM
Edited by TMommy on Tue 09/01/15 04:27 PM

however, school is not necessarily meant to be about pledges or race or anything else

but HUMANS need to poop and/or pee, including students

and they should not be forced to share the bathroom with the opposite sex.....thats not about bigotry, thats about the PURPOSE of a bathroom and putting bathrooms up based upon the biological process it will fulfill

one room for those who have to pee through the vagina, another for those who have to pee through a penis,,

why is that anything like 'discrimination',,,,its based purely in the ANATOMY of relieving ourselves,,lol


not disagreeing

but I can see a neutral bathroom being a 'have to' for every school in the future

msharmony's photo
Tue 09/01/15 04:28 PM


however, school is not necessarily meant to be about pledges or race or anything else

but HUMANS need to poop and/or pee, including students

and they should not be forced to share the bathroom with the opposite sex.....thats not about bigotry, thats about the PURPOSE of a bathroom and putting bathrooms up based upon the biological process it will fulfill

one room for those who have to pee through the vagina, another for those who have to pee through a penis,,

why is that anything like 'discrimination',,,,its based purely in the ANATOMY of relieving ourselves,,lol


not disagreeing

but I can see a neutral bathroom being a 'have to' for every school in the future


that would be the 'compromise', but I dont see that being enough

I see women forced to share the bathroom with 'women' that have penises,,,


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Tue 09/01/15 04:31 PM
If it were my child. I would speak to school officials and ask if there was a private staff bathroom that could be used. I would want my child to not only feel comfortable but most importantly, feel safe.

I would then explain to my child that his/her comfort is important but so is the comfort of others.

Creating a special bathroom would only facilitate hatred as it would become a target.

This issue will get out of control and eventually lead to a death.


TMommy's photo
Tue 09/01/15 04:33 PM

If it were my child. I would speak to school officials and ask if there was a private staff bathroom that could be used. I would want my child to not only feel comfortable but most importantly, feel safe.

I would then explain to my child that his/her comfort is important but so is the comfort of others.

Creating a special bathroom would only facilitate hatred as it would become a target.

This issue will get out of control and eventually lead to a death.


problem is..you stick this young man..she/male in bathroom with a bunch of teenage girls that have to shower after gym class ? It's gonna cause violence

if you stick or allow a young woman who feels she is a guy into the guy's locker room? same thing gonna happen

isaac_dede's photo
Tue 09/01/15 04:36 PM
I agree with one of the comments from the original topic

'she' can use the women's restroom when 'she' has 'her' first period. ..until then nope

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