Miguel regarding this statement you said:


and double damn me
f!cking miguel learn u should not care if the world next to u falls, it's not ur damn business
i swear i wanna grab my head and crash it against the f!cking wall


Tell me my friend where would this world be if really everyone started to think that way. Yeah at times by helping someone out we get burned and some times bad. But...... if we all just decided to say F* ** It and keep to our selves and not open our hearts up either to love or a friend in need. Not only would this world be one sad and lonely world but just he hate alone would dbl only reason it does not now is due to those that can freely give that love with no questions.

So yeah maybe we damn if we do and damn if we dont but either way I know at least I tried. As long as one does there best then our actions were not wasted.

You're not an asshole. You're concerned. Very admirable quality in a friend. However, some people are stubborn and will do what they feel is needing to be done regardless.

I also think that everyone will view a situation through their own perspective... and sometimes depending on mood, temperment, etc... as human beings we can tend to act rash, say things we don't mean or jump to conclusions.

Maybe you were a bit bold with your approach... and this person, having the same type of boldness, backed away to let the dust settle. It could be that they don't value your friendship any less, but didn't want to cause anymore damage to it. True friends let the wounds heal- especially when, even if they got hurt by what you did, they realize you had the best of intentions at heart.

I have many times, and I pray that they get what they need but I have to walk away from it , help can only go so far and if you end up as the bad person for giving the help then you have to walk away or lose your self in the mire the other created.

the Bible tells us that we are our brothers keeper.
we have an obligation to warn our 'brother' if we see him headed for destruction. but that's all we can do.
once we have done our part-given that warning-all we are required to do is wait for the other person to make the choice to change
or not. it is then out of our hands, and we have done what we can
do. except continue to 'pray without ceasing'.
but be careful about becoming a hypocrite. you cannot effectively
tell another about the speck in his eye if you there's a plank in your own eye....

is this the public flogging thread?!

TLW - you are obviously a kind and caring person.
that is what makes it hurt. one can only try to do
the right thing. forgive yourself and repent. but
never lose your generous impulse - it is one of your
best features!

and i recommend Telushkin's book: Words that Hurt,
Words that Heal - really check it out. You'll
never look at words the same....

You may continue punishing yourself now

txsgal
but sometimes u have to protect urself, and one of the most effective defensive mechanism is simply staying away.

Pray about it first like you are and give it time.
If they still treat you like crap... walk away.
You were only trying to be a friend. Perhaps they will
see that in time- if not I would not let it worry you.

S1ow... you always have something insightfully witty to say! I love it!

Miguel your sooooooo right but then how do we know that we have come to that point unless our hearts and minds are open and we make that mistake first. Yes we learn from our mistakes but it never means we will not ever repeat those same mistakes. Just that we did what we thought was right at the time. And big enough to admit when it is time to walk away.

Miguel, been there a few times, especially when trying to help people at work.

Have often heard the phrase "No good deed goes unpunished."

For those moments remember:

"And let us not grow weary while doing good, for in due season we shall reap if we do not lose heart. Gal 6:9

In other words, keep doing what your heart tells you to do. For those who do not appreciate what a good person you are, forgive them and move on.

britty thank you so much
those words of urs give me so much confort