Should the guy always pay for supper at a restaurant on a first date? Or at a minimum at least offer?

yes, always.

all depends on the person you are with
some are so solo they will get offended
is all ways nice to offer though : )

and then you have the other end of the scale that will tell you yes you must all ways pay it all

just really all depends on the person

If he has class and self-respect, I hope so. Maybe I come from a different culture.

depends...did you do the asking?

I think there is some clarification for me.

Is this a meet and greet or date?
Who did the asking?
Who picked the restaurant?

If it is a meet and greet then I believe a lady should at least make a sincere attempt to pay for her meal if he refuses insist on either the tip or drinks...

I know there is 10 different answers and variations to this question. But in my mind a gentleman always pays. It is actually a honor

Maybe it was just how I was raised.

JMO

I agree with Devildog, not just the first date but all dates.

If I am being given the option to pay for a real, sit-down dinner date, or go dutch...that means something...usually its unfavorable for the guy...

But if we're just hanging out as friends...no problem.

if you had invited the girl out
then yes the guy should be paying

I agree with Devildog. However, I also have no problem paying. Like others have said, it depends on the 2 peeps involved. Who did the asking, etc. I guess I'm absolutely on the fence about this one. I don't get upset or angry either way. Who pays for "Our" dates should be 50/50 just like the rest of the relationship.

agree
or say dutch

I don't know I have mixed feelings about this topic.. it really depends on how much you go out.. I date a lot..soo. on average dinner and drinks with tip $160 times that by 3. now add in gas picking her up and dropping her off throw in $30 a month for flowers..
Then $60 for a movie once a month..
Add In perhaps another 40 to 50 dollars for drinks during the month... and the occasional jazz concert that's going to run you at least 120.. that's just in one month.... that is a total of seven hundred and forty dollars per month... no wonder when you get married you stop going out lol...
so ladies should the man always pay or would it be nice just to kick it in a little bit.. Just saying.... but honestly I always pay and I would feel a little weird if you offered to pay but I would definitely accept it lol

You have nailed it on the head and here Alaska a nice meal in a nice restaurant can be over 200 before tip for a couple.So as you did your math and give or take a bit. You are close to a grand a month to date this woman..

For this reason and this reason alone when I date I insist on taking turns paying and there was ways to do it. Without harming the guys pride...
No I don't stand there with a pen and paper marking off whose turn it is. It is natural and easy thing....

Me
Dinner was lovely tonight I have tickets too ???? Will you be my guest this Weds or Friday whatever the event is.


Guy Nah I can't do that it wouldn't be right...

Me snuggles in real close whispers in his ear... I love spending time with you... but my pride is stopping me unless you let me do this one thing. Please let me do this ...

Easy peasy...No one's pride or honour has been hurt.

Ohhhh.. I likes it when you say please let me do this..mmmmm

1st date....guy pays...always...

take her somewhere within your means
and don't try to over-impress her with money or possessions...
if she likes you for yourself...that will be more than enough...

Not if she expects to get laid.

I may be a ho, but I'm not a cheap ho.

"Should?"

Yes. Yes he "should." Just so he can avoid the arguments and back and forth this question always generates.

It's cheaper in the long run to just pay the check and move on than focus on who "should" pay for it.


Other than that, I can't really speak for "the guy."
I generally pay for the first date.
Partly because I always pay in cash which allows me to just handle it immediately and unobtrusively, without a lot of attention, or fanfare, and just make it a complete non issue that doesn't even interrupt a conversation.

Mostly because I come up with what we are going to do.
I ask them out on a specific date.
I don't treat asking them out on a date as a brainstorming exercise.

Therefore, I'm creating like a scenario for my own enjoyment while taking her into some consideration.
If she had said "no" to my date request, I would probably have gone and done it anyway.
I am ultimately asking them to tag along with me to what I want to do.
I will never ask a woman out to do something I have absolutely no desire to do.


I've personally only experienced 2 types of "offers" from women.

1. Not all that serious, merely a token gesture that is ultimately worthless.
When I actually said "sure!" to their offer and handed over the check, things got weird and distant on their part.
One woman said "it's so weird to pay for myself on a date!"
But they will deny their attitudes changed and truly believe they meant the offer to be serious.

2. Serious, and they fight and argue with you about it until they get their way. If they don't get their way, things get weird and they get distant and petty, otherwise they find some other way to assert their independence and/or superiority.

The lioness should bring back the gazelle for me first, then the cubs.

I need my sleep!

Ciretom, a woman just cannot win with you whether she pays or not.