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mom333 Joined Sun 06/15/14 Posts: 1238	Mon 07/06/15 12:14 PM
written a religious book not based on a god but on real life, and taken the best of the religious groups out there eg Jewish(Friday night dinners, Islam(modesty), Buddhism (not relying on luxuries)Christianity(thou shall not kill) etc and started their own religion based on all the good things out there?

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Mon 07/06/15 12:18 PM
written a religious book not based on a god but on real life, and taken the best of the religious groups out there eg Jewish(Friday night dinners, Islam(modesty), Buddhism (not relying on luxuries)Christianity(thou shall not kill) etc and started their own religion based on all the good things out there? My dear mom, no matter what "religion" you find. It's not about finding the "golden ticket to life" or "figuring it out". It's about obeying God, his will and commandments. It's not about "YOU" or what you can specifically gain. It's about obeying God and accepting the rewards that may be there along the ride.

mom333 Joined Sun 06/15/14 Posts: 1238	Mon 07/06/15 12:43 PM
written a religious book not based on a god but on real life, and taken the best of the religious groups out there eg Jewish(Friday night dinners, Islam(modesty), Buddhism (not relying on luxuries)Christianity(thou shall not kill) etc and started their own religion based on all the good things out there? My dear mom, no matter what "religion" you find. It's not about finding the "golden ticket to life" or "figuring it out". It's about obeying God, his will and commandments. It's not about "YOU" or what you can specifically gain. It's about obeying God and accepting the rewards that may be there along the ride. the religion Im speaking about would have no god just like atheism, that is a religion and the people there are happy in the knowledge that they are choosing to be "good" without the need to have it told to them on a weekly basis. I myself do not think so highly of myself and I do not think myself on some high level where I am going to be an angel and live in a heaven because I managed to follow some rules badly and assume that gay people and non Christians are not going there too. I know however I am special to a few people on the earth...my children and that is all I need to know that im already living in my heaven even if its hard sometimes. when it finishes it finishes I will be happy that I did my best at times.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Mon 07/06/15 12:51 PM
written a religious book not based on a god but on real life, and taken the best of the religious groups out there eg Jewish(Friday night dinners, Islam(modesty), Buddhism (not relying on luxuries)Christianity(thou shall not kill) etc and started their own religion based on all the good things out there? My dear mom, no matter what "religion" you find. It's not about finding the "golden ticket to life" or "figuring it out". It's about obeying God, his will and commandments. It's not about "YOU" or what you can specifically gain. It's about obeying God and accepting the rewards that may be there along the ride. the religion Im speaking about would have no god just like atheism, that is a religion and the people there are happy in the knowledge that they are choosing to be "good" without the need to have it told to them on a weekly basis. I myself do not think so highly of myself and I do not think myself on some high level where I am going to be an angel and live in a heaven because I managed to follow some rules badly and assume that gay people and non Christians are not going there too. I know however I am special to a few people on the earth...my children and that is all I need to know that im already living in my heaven even if its hard sometimes. when it finishes it finishes I will be happy that I did my best at times. It's not needed to be told to us once a week, that's not specifically what church is for on the Sabbath. It's bout taking that bit of time out of your schedule and spend it directly on God in celebration or learning. It's about God 100% on the Sabbath, not what one can gain or benefit from it.

mom333 Joined Sun 06/15/14 Posts: 1238	Mon 07/06/15 01:03 PM
written a religious book not based on a god but on real life, and taken the best of the religious groups out there eg Jewish(Friday night dinners, Islam(modesty), Buddhism (not relying on luxuries)Christianity(thou shall not kill) etc and started their own religion based on all the good things out there? My dear mom, no matter what "religion" you find. It's not about finding the "golden ticket to life" or "figuring it out". It's about obeying God, his will and commandments. It's not about "YOU" or what you can specifically gain. It's about obeying God and accepting the rewards that may be there along the ride. the religion Im speaking about would have no god just like atheism, that is a religion and the people there are happy in the knowledge that they are choosing to be "good" without the need to have it told to them on a weekly basis. I myself do not think so highly of myself and I do not think myself on some high level where I am going to be an angel and live in a heaven because I managed to follow some rules badly and assume that gay people and non Christians are not going there too. I know however I am special to a few people on the earth...my children and that is all I need to know that im already living in my heaven even if its hard sometimes. when it finishes it finishes I will be happy that I did my best at times. It's not needed to be told to us once a week, that's not specifically what church is for on the Sabbath. It's bout taking that bit of time out of your schedule and spend it directly on God in celebration or learning. It's about God 100% on the Sabbath, not what one can gain or benefit from it. I don't love my children or accept people the way they are regardless of how they look or what they believe or give homeless people bacon butties to gain something back, there is nothing I can achieve from doing these things. I don't feel pleased with myself because I did something good because I just did it. and I don't think im going somewhere special after I croak because I acknowledge I am part of the animal kingdom. if I were going to believe that I was going to a heaven then I would think animals were going there too, like dogs, cats, moose, crocodiles etc as it happens I do not believe we just simply cease to exist because we will be part of the earth and so join in the circle of life, which is a proven fact and everybody gets to join.

mplsminnieme Joined Wed 04/22/15 Posts: 87	Mon 07/06/15 01:06 PM
In the beginning God made man, and saw that it was good. So now God had both man and good. Then good made women, and saw that now he had both man and woman, and good and evil. heehee!

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Mon 07/06/15 01:13 PM
written a religious book not based on a god but on real life, and taken the best of the religious groups out there eg Jewish(Friday night dinners, Islam(modesty), Buddhism (not relying on luxuries)Christianity(thou shall not kill) etc and started their own religion based on all the good things out there? My dear mom, no matter what "religion" you find. It's not about finding the "golden ticket to life" or "figuring it out". It's about obeying God, his will and commandments. It's not about "YOU" or what you can specifically gain. It's about obeying God and accepting the rewards that may be there along the ride. the religion Im speaking about would have no god just like atheism, that is a religion and the people there are happy in the knowledge that they are choosing to be "good" without the need to have it told to them on a weekly basis. I myself do not think so highly of myself and I do not think myself on some high level where I am going to be an angel and live in a heaven because I managed to follow some rules badly and assume that gay people and non Christians are not going there too. I know however I am special to a few people on the earth...my children and that is all I need to know that im already living in my heaven even if its hard sometimes. when it finishes it finishes I will be happy that I did my best at times. It's not needed to be told to us once a week, that's not specifically what church is for on the Sabbath. It's bout taking that bit of time out of your schedule and spend it directly on God in celebration or learning. It's about God 100% on the Sabbath, not what one can gain or benefit from it. I don't love my children or accept people the way they are regardless of how they look or what they believe or give homeless people bacon butties to gain something back, there is nothing I can achieve from doing these things. I don't feel pleased with myself because I did something good because I just did it. and I don't think im going somewhere special after I croak because I acknowledge I am part of the animal kingdom. if I were going to believe that I was going to a heaven then I would think animals were going there too, like dogs, cats, moose, crocodiles etc as it happens I do not believe we just simply cease to exist because we will be part of the earth and so join in the circle of life, which is a proven fact and everybody gets to join. ???? Nobody does anything to gain anything back. The original actions would be done in vein if they expected a reward. We do what we do, for the simple fact our God has told us.

mom333 Joined Sun 06/15/14 Posts: 1238	Mon 07/06/15 01:20 PM
written a religious book not based on a god but on real life, and taken the best of the religious groups out there eg Jewish(Friday night dinners, Islam(modesty), Buddhism (not relying on luxuries)Christianity(thou shall not kill) etc and started their own religion based on all the good things out there? My dear mom, no matter what "religion" you find. It's not about finding the "golden ticket to life" or "figuring it out". It's about obeying God, his will and commandments. It's not about "YOU" or what you can specifically gain. It's about obeying God and accepting the rewards that may be there along the ride. the religion Im speaking about would have no god just like atheism, that is a religion and the people there are happy in the knowledge that they are choosing to be "good" without the need to have it told to them on a weekly basis. I myself do not think so highly of myself and I do not think myself on some high level where I am going to be an angel and live in a heaven because I managed to follow some rules badly and assume that gay people and non Christians are not going there too. I know however I am special to a few people on the earth...my children and that is all I need to know that im already living in my heaven even if its hard sometimes. when it finishes it finishes I will be happy that I did my best at times. It's not needed to be told to us once a week, that's not specifically what church is for on the Sabbath. It's bout taking that bit of time out of your schedule and spend it directly on God in celebration or learning. It's about God 100% on the Sabbath, not what one can gain or benefit from it. I don't love my children or accept people the way they are regardless of how they look or what they believe or give homeless people bacon butties to gain something back, there is nothing I can achieve from doing these things. I don't feel pleased with myself because I did something good because I just did it. and I don't think im going somewhere special after I croak because I acknowledge I am part of the animal kingdom. if I were going to believe that I was going to a heaven then I would think animals were going there too, like dogs, cats, moose, crocodiles etc as it happens I do not believe we just simply cease to exist because we will be part of the earth and so join in the circle of life, which is a proven fact and everybody gets to join. ???? Nobody does anything to gain anything back. The original actions would be done in vein if they expected a reward. We do what we do, for the simple fact our God has told us. your doing it because your goal is getting into heaven.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Mon 07/06/15 02:12 PM
written a religious book not based on a god but on real life, and taken the best of the religious groups out there eg Jewish(Friday night dinners, Islam(modesty), Buddhism (not relying on luxuries)Christianity(thou shall not kill) etc and started their own religion based on all the good things out there? My dear mom, no matter what "religion" you find. It's not about finding the "golden ticket to life" or "figuring it out". It's about obeying God, his will and commandments. It's not about "YOU" or what you can specifically gain. It's about obeying God and accepting the rewards that may be there along the ride. the religion Im speaking about would have no god just like atheism, that is a religion and the people there are happy in the knowledge that they are choosing to be "good" without the need to have it told to them on a weekly basis. I myself do not think so highly of myself and I do not think myself on some high level where I am going to be an angel and live in a heaven because I managed to follow some rules badly and assume that gay people and non Christians are not going there too. I know however I am special to a few people on the earth...my children and that is all I need to know that im already living in my heaven even if its hard sometimes. when it finishes it finishes I will be happy that I did my best at times. It's not needed to be told to us once a week, that's not specifically what church is for on the Sabbath. It's bout taking that bit of time out of your schedule and spend it directly on God in celebration or learning. It's about God 100% on the Sabbath, not what one can gain or benefit from it. I don't love my children or accept people the way they are regardless of how they look or what they believe or give homeless people bacon butties to gain something back, there is nothing I can achieve from doing these things. I don't feel pleased with myself because I did something good because I just did it. and I don't think im going somewhere special after I croak because I acknowledge I am part of the animal kingdom. if I were going to believe that I was going to a heaven then I would think animals were going there too, like dogs, cats, moose, crocodiles etc as it happens I do not believe we just simply cease to exist because we will be part of the earth and so join in the circle of life, which is a proven fact and everybody gets to join. ???? Nobody does anything to gain anything back. The original actions would be done in vein if they expected a reward. We do what we do, for the simple fact our God has told us. your doing it because your goal is getting into heaven. Wrong, we are doing it so that you may gain in the reward of Heaven. Anything and everything for the salvation of those who believe has already been made by the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. Outside of that the ONLY thing anyone of can even possibly do, is direct someone to God. All the glory of anything great accomplished is in the great name if Jesus Christ!!!

Annierooroo Joined Mon 10/20/14 Posts: 12552	Mon 07/06/15 02:17 PM
In the beginning God made man, and saw that it was good. So now God had both man and good. Then good made women, and saw that now he had both man and woman, and good and evil. heehee! Are you saying women are evil?

mom333 Joined Sun 06/15/14 Posts: 1238	Mon 07/06/15 02:20 PM
written a religious book not based on a god but on real life, and taken the best of the religious groups out there eg Jewish(Friday night dinners, Islam(modesty), Buddhism (not relying on luxuries)Christianity(thou shall not kill) etc and started their own religion based on all the good things out there? My dear mom, no matter what "religion" you find. It's not about finding the "golden ticket to life" or "figuring it out". It's about obeying God, his will and commandments. It's not about "YOU" or what you can specifically gain. It's about obeying God and accepting the rewards that may be there along the ride. the religion Im speaking about would have no god just like atheism, that is a religion and the people there are happy in the knowledge that they are choosing to be "good" without the need to have it told to them on a weekly basis. I myself do not think so highly of myself and I do not think myself on some high level where I am going to be an angel and live in a heaven because I managed to follow some rules badly and assume that gay people and non Christians are not going there too. I know however I am special to a few people on the earth...my children and that is all I need to know that im already living in my heaven even if its hard sometimes. when it finishes it finishes I will be happy that I did my best at times. It's not needed to be told to us once a week, that's not specifically what church is for on the Sabbath. It's bout taking that bit of time out of your schedule and spend it directly on God in celebration or learning. It's about God 100% on the Sabbath, not what one can gain or benefit from it. I don't love my children or accept people the way they are regardless of how they look or what they believe or give homeless people bacon butties to gain something back, there is nothing I can achieve from doing these things. I don't feel pleased with myself because I did something good because I just did it. and I don't think im going somewhere special after I croak because I acknowledge I am part of the animal kingdom. if I were going to believe that I was going to a heaven then I would think animals were going there too, like dogs, cats, moose, crocodiles etc as it happens I do not believe we just simply cease to exist because we will be part of the earth and so join in the circle of life, which is a proven fact and everybody gets to join. ???? Nobody does anything to gain anything back. The original actions would be done in vein if they expected a reward. We do what we do, for the simple fact our God has told us. your doing it because your goal is getting into heaven. Wrong, we are doing it so that you may gain in the reward of Heaven. Anything and everything for the salvation of those who believe has already been made by the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. Outside of that the ONLY thing anyone of can even possibly do, is direct someone to God. All the glory of anything great accomplished is in the great name if Jesus Christ!!! but in the bible it says only they who follow him get to go. others burn in hell for their sins. so I put it to you that your either wrong or not being truthful about why you worship this god.

SheikOfLaBroquerie Joined Thu 01/31/13 Posts: 1973	Tue 07/07/15 09:58 AM Edited by SheikOfLaBroquerie on Tue 07/07/15 10:19 AM
Has anybody ever written a religious book not based on a god but on real life, and taken the best of the religious groups out there eg Jewish(Friday night dinners, Islam(modesty), Buddhism (not relying on luxuries)Christianity(thou shall not kill) etc and started their own religion based on all the good things out there? Essentially, You're asking if anybody has ever bothered to make a format of rituals without necessarily having any source of restitution for their integrity. Which in turn beckons the question... "As a means to what end ?" It's kind of hopeless... Isn't it ?

Pansytilly Joined Mon 06/09/14 Posts: 11310	Tue 07/07/15 10:15 AM
written a religious book not based on a god but on real life, and taken the best of the religious groups out there eg Jewish(Friday night dinners, Islam(modesty), Buddhism (not relying on luxuries)Christianity(thou shall not kill) etc and started their own religion based on all the good things out there? i think those are found in the self-help aisles of bookstores....some might treat it as a religion of sorts...

yellowrose10 Joined Tue 12/11/07 Posts: 52804	Tue 07/07/15 10:20 AM
There are atheists bibles out there. Buddhists books. All kinds of things. So yes

mom333 Joined Sun 06/15/14 Posts: 1238	Tue 07/07/15 10:42 AM
Has anybody ever written a religious book not based on a god but on real life, and taken the best of the religious groups out there eg Jewish(Friday night dinners, Islam(modesty), Buddhism (not relying on luxuries)Christianity(thou shall not kill) etc and started their own religion based on all the good things out there? Essentially, You're asking if anybody has ever bothered to make a format of rituals without necessarily having any source of restitution for their integrity. Which in turn beckons the question... "As a means to what end ?" It's kind of hopeless... Isn't it ? not really because there really shouldn't be a particular reward for being a person who tries to be a good person. If there were any reward it would be the reward of having an extended family so to speak who really cared about each other and not just because they think there getting something out if it.

SheikOfLaBroquerie Joined Thu 01/31/13 Posts: 1973	Tue 07/07/15 10:46 AM
What if the rest of One's family isn't on-board with this agenda ?

mom333 Joined Sun 06/15/14 Posts: 1238	Tue 07/07/15 10:50 AM
What if the rest of One's family isn't on-board with this agenda ? you shouldn't do what you don't want to do. That only breeds resentment. Do it with good intention or not at all.

SheikOfLaBroquerie Joined Thu 01/31/13 Posts: 1973	Tue 07/07/15 11:02 AM
No, no, no... ! 'YOU' may have the best of intentions, but what if the rest of One's family isn't ?

mom333 Joined Sun 06/15/14 Posts: 1238	Tue 07/07/15 11:08 AM
No, no, no... ! 'YOU' may have the best of intentions, but what if the rest of One's family isn't ? not everybody will think the same way. But respect should be given. If they are doing things that are trully bad then you or I would try to surround oneself with people who don't go about hurting people.

devildog123 Joined Mon 09/08/14 Posts: 3902	Tue 07/07/15 11:14 AM
Yeah, Jim Jones did.... didn't turn out too well Word to the wise: Pass on the Cool Aid if one of these religious fanatics offer it.