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Topic: no riots?
JOHNN111 Joined Wed 05/13/09 Posts: 9273	Sun 05/31/15 09:36 PM
When the public narrative blames the police instead of the thugs, there is a problem on many, many, levels. The mayor of Baltimore needs to be fired quickly. The police commissioner and that insane prejudiced prosecutor need to hit the road too. People are dying because police are being blamed for killing crooks. "Hands up, don't shoot" was just a lie. someone stealing someone should not give anyone a right to kill them , even police crooks are responsible for their crimes, yes,, to extend that to say that the presence of a crime alone is justification for an unarmed mans death is homicidal nonsense,,, I don't remember the kid getting shot because he stole something I think he got killed because he took a physical shot at a peace officer but didn't succeed in taking his weapon. I get your point about cops overstepping the deadly force protocol but this story is not be the best example of it. You can't "open season" on your police officers like that... physical violence spells trouble, with good reason. There was a case last year in Toronto where a kid was alone on a city bus with a knife, surrounded and going nowhere, some cop emptied his clip through the windows http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi4In494rAg the other cops look really confused, the kid was down and the cop kept shooting. Still no riots?

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sun 05/31/15 09:45 PM
When the public narrative blames the police instead of the thugs, there is a problem on many, many, levels. The mayor of Baltimore needs to be fired quickly. The police commissioner and that insane prejudiced prosecutor need to hit the road too. People are dying because police are being blamed for killing crooks. "Hands up, don't shoot" was just a lie. someone stealing someone should not give anyone a right to kill them , even police crooks are responsible for their crimes, yes,, to extend that to say that the presence of a crime alone is justification for an unarmed mans death is homicidal nonsense,,, I don't remember the kid getting shot because he stole something I think he got killed because he took a physical shot at a peace officer but didn't succeed in taking his weapon. I get your point about cops overstepping the deadly force protocol but this story is not be the best example of it. You can't "open season" on your police officers like that... physical violence spells trouble, with good reason. There was a case last year in Toronto where a kid was alone on a city bus with a knife, surrounded and going nowhere, some cop emptied his clip through the windows http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi4In494rAg the other cops look really confused, the kid was down and the cop kept shooting. Still no riots? yes, as someone else mentioned,, people riot over different issues,, some over sporting events,, some over a history of injustice,,, I understand the emotion over historical injustice just a bit more,,,,although rioting , whatevr the spark, is useless,,,and destructive

JOHNN111 Joined Wed 05/13/09 Posts: 9273	Sun 05/31/15 10:00 PM
I understand the emotion over historical injustice just a bit more Were they rioting because of historical injustice? If so, it'll never get better beating the same drum? the "spark" was unjustified in this case, who's going to take responsibility? No one! because of "historical injustices"

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sun 05/31/15 10:05 PM Edited by msharmony on Sun 05/31/15 10:06 PM
I understand the emotion over historical injustice just a bit more Were they rioting because of historical injustice? If so, it'll never get better beating the same drum? the "spark" was unjustified in this case, who's going to take responsibility? No one! because of "historical injustices" they were rioting for many reasons, just like people after sporting events riot but it starts on the heels of a legitimate gripe,, fans being upset by a loss, or minorities being upset over historical injustice or should I say the concern for the potential to slowly return to the historically acceptable injustices of the past the 'spark' was more than justified,,the protest was more than justified,, the anger was more than justified,,, if people saw someone either running or surrendering and still being shot dead and LEFT IN THE STREET for hours as if they were garbage,,,and those same people already had a poor history of discriminatory practices by those same police in THEIR COMMUNITY but stepping over from protest to riot was just feeding all the justifications people find for such injustice in the first place,,,

JOHNN111 Joined Wed 05/13/09 Posts: 9273	Sun 05/31/15 10:23 PM
Well to be honest, if the "community" is ANY reflection of this young mans unacceptable actions, it's not encouraging. Our sporting riots are different they distract and loot, organized gangs don't throw one rock at police, there's no shooting in the riots... our riots are civilized

alleoops Joined Sat 08/06/11 Posts: 10832	Sun 05/31/15 10:30 PM
MsH, your responses to the post of others here make no sense at all. plain english and proper grammer, if its not understood , it says more about the reader than the writer,,, great and while we are at it, why dont we legalize rape of prostitutes,,you know, as a 'deterrent' ? Plain english and proper grammer doesnt mean it makes sense either. Maybe I should have said they are made without using common sense. Legalize to rape prostitutes? What is that about?

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Mon 06/01/15 02:12 AM
When the public narrative blames the police instead of the thugs, there is a problem on many, many, levels. The mayor of Baltimore needs to be fired quickly. The police commissioner and that insane prejudiced prosecutor need to hit the road too. People are dying because police are being blamed for killing crooks. "Hands up, don't shoot" was just a lie. someone stealing someone should not give anyone a right to kill them , even police crooks are responsible for their crimes, yes,, to extend that to say that the presence of a crime alone is justification for an unarmed mans death is homicidal nonsense,,, never heard of Selfdefense,did you? That right even applies to a Cop! Doesn't give it up because he put on that Uniform! no, he doesnt, and he doesnt escape the definition either the use of reasonable force to protect oneself or members of the family from bodily harm from the attack of an aggressor, stress on the words 'REASONABLE FORCE" and 'AGGRESSOR' somoene running away is not 'aggressing' on anyone,, someone making eye contact isnt 'aggressing' on anyone, someone struggling or resisting, is by definition, not 'aggressing' someone who has already stolen something, or done some other petty crime, isnt 'aggressing',,, ,,,,,get the point there? If a 300-pounder is bearing down on me,after he has already tried to take my Firearm,is Dead Meat! thats a HUGE IF and all the more reason if one is obese or another 'threatening' type throw up ones hands to assure that noone is trying to 'bear' down or otherwise harm the poor defenseless cop who can not possibly be safe without killing that person,,, well,it happened in Ferguson,and the 300-pounder bore the consequences! Good thing that the Cop wasn't defenseless!