Topic: no riots?
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Fri 05/29/15 08:44 PM
Although not killed, a wildlife and fisheries agent waa shot in my parish a few days ago....

"" By Todd Masson, NOLA.com | The
Times-Picayune
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on May 22, 2015 at 4:57 AM, updated May
22, 2015 at 7:21 AM
A Louisiana Department of Wildlife and
Fisheries agent was shot on patrol Thursday
night on Russell Sage Wildlife
Management Area in Ouachita Parish. As of
early Friday morning, he was hospitalized
in serious condition.
According to the department, Sgt. Scott
Bullitt, 32, of Jonesboro and another agent
stopped a vehicle containing two motorists.
After a short interview, Bullitt believed the
occupants to be impaired, and walked back
toward his vehicle.
According to the department, the passenger
of the stopped vehicle then shot Bullitt in
the lower back. He was later identified as
Luke Jarrod Hust, 29, of Monroe.
The other agent returned fire, and Hust
escaped into the woods.
After calling for help, the other agent
apprehended the driver, who was later
brought in for questioning.
LDWF agents, State Police, Ouachita Parish
Sheriff's Office deputies, Monroe police and
U.S. Customs and Border Protection agents
set up a perimeter around the area, and
searched for Hust. He was apprehended and
arrested at 11 p.m., four hours after the
shooting.""
http://www.nola.com/outdoors/index.ssf/2015/05/louisiana_wildlife_and_fisheri_1.html

After being captured, the shooter, a convicted felon who had a firearm on him, said he didnt want to go back to prison.
Geniuses these guys aint. Too bad he wasnt shot dead in the search.

metalwing's photo
Sat 05/30/15 05:55 PM
When the public narrative blames the police instead of the thugs, there is a problem on many, many, levels.

The mayor of Baltimore needs to be fired quickly. The police commissioner and that insane prejudiced prosecutor need to hit the road too.

People are dying because police are being blamed for killing crooks.

"Hands up, don't shoot" was just a lie.

Dodo_David's photo
Sat 05/30/15 06:05 PM
The mayor of Baltimore needs to be fired quickly.


huh Exactly how does one quickly fire an elected public official?

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Sat 05/30/15 06:48 PM

The mayor of Baltimore needs to be fired quickly.


huh Exactly how does one quickly fire an elected public official?


Duh, Godzilla.


msharmony's photo
Sat 05/30/15 08:09 PM

When the public narrative blames the police instead of the thugs, there is a problem on many, many, levels.

The mayor of Baltimore needs to be fired quickly. The police commissioner and that insane prejudiced prosecutor need to hit the road too.

People are dying because police are being blamed for killing crooks.

"Hands up, don't shoot" was just a lie.



someone stealing someone should not give anyone a right to kill them , even police

crooks are responsible for their crimes, yes,, to extend that to say that the presence of a crime alone is justification for an unarmed mans death is homicidal nonsense,,,

no photo
Sun 05/31/15 12:15 AM
Edited by alleoops on Sun 05/31/15 12:16 AM


When the public narrative blames the police instead of the thugs, there is a problem on many, many, levels.

The mayor of Baltimore needs to be fired quickly. The police commissioner and that insane prejudiced prosecutor need to hit the road too.

People are dying because police are being blamed for killing crooks.

"Hands up, don't shoot" was just a lie.



someone stealing someone should not give anyone a right to kill them , even police

crooks are responsible for their crimes, yes,, to extend that to say that the presence of a crime alone is justification for an unarmed mans death is homicidal nonsense,,,


It may not give them the "right" to kill but it will dam sure deter the next one from doing it. Looters should be shot on the spot. JMHO
bigsmile

Conrad_73's photo
Sun 05/31/15 01:20 AM


When the public narrative blames the police instead of the thugs, there is a problem on many, many, levels.

The mayor of Baltimore needs to be fired quickly. The police commissioner and that insane prejudiced prosecutor need to hit the road too.

People are dying because police are being blamed for killing crooks.

"Hands up, don't shoot" was just a lie.



someone stealing someone should not give anyone a right to kill them , even police

crooks are responsible for their crimes, yes,, to extend that to say that the presence of a crime alone is justification for an unarmed mans death is homicidal nonsense,,,

never heard of Selfdefense,did you?
That right even applies to a Cop!
Doesn't give it up because he put on that Uniform!

metalwing's photo
Sun 05/31/15 06:53 AM


When the public narrative blames the police instead of the thugs, there is a problem on many, many, levels.

The mayor of Baltimore needs to be fired quickly. The police commissioner and that insane prejudiced prosecutor need to hit the road too.

People are dying because police are being blamed for killing crooks.

"Hands up, don't shoot" was just a lie.



someone stealing someone should not give anyone a right to kill them , even police

crooks are responsible for their crimes, yes,, to extend that to say that the presence of a crime alone is justification for an unarmed mans death is homicidal nonsense,,,


Trying to take a cop's gun is a sure-fire death sentence.

Repeating the lie "Hands up don't shoot" as fact over and over in the face of evidence to the contrary is the "nonsense" that is causing the current deaths of many.

And we know who has been doing that, don't we?

msharmony's photo
Sun 05/31/15 06:57 AM



When the public narrative blames the police instead of the thugs, there is a problem on many, many, levels.

The mayor of Baltimore needs to be fired quickly. The police commissioner and that insane prejudiced prosecutor need to hit the road too.

People are dying because police are being blamed for killing crooks.

"Hands up, don't shoot" was just a lie.



someone stealing someone should not give anyone a right to kill them , even police

crooks are responsible for their crimes, yes,, to extend that to say that the presence of a crime alone is justification for an unarmed mans death is homicidal nonsense,,,


It may not give them the "right" to kill but it will dam sure deter the next one from doing it. Looters should be shot on the spot. JMHO
bigsmile



great and while we are at it, why dont we legalize rape of prostitutes,,you know, as a 'deterrent' ? whoa

metalwing's photo
Sun 05/31/15 07:00 AM

The mayor of Baltimore needs to be fired quickly.


huh Exactly how does one quickly fire an elected public official?


Marian Barry comes to mind, with less harm to the public. Any elected official can be removed from office or "fired". With a mayor, it is usually the city council with the authority to do so.

msharmony's photo
Sun 05/31/15 07:01 AM



When the public narrative blames the police instead of the thugs, there is a problem on many, many, levels.

The mayor of Baltimore needs to be fired quickly. The police commissioner and that insane prejudiced prosecutor need to hit the road too.

People are dying because police are being blamed for killing crooks.

"Hands up, don't shoot" was just a lie.



someone stealing someone should not give anyone a right to kill them , even police

crooks are responsible for their crimes, yes,, to extend that to say that the presence of a crime alone is justification for an unarmed mans death is homicidal nonsense,,,

never heard of Selfdefense,did you?
That right even applies to a Cop!
Doesn't give it up because he put on that Uniform!



no, he doesnt, and he doesnt escape the definition either


the use of reasonable force to protect oneself or members of the family from bodily harm from the attack of an aggressor,



stress on the words 'REASONABLE FORCE" and 'AGGRESSOR'

somoene running away is not 'aggressing' on anyone,, someone making eye contact isnt 'aggressing' on anyone, someone struggling or resisting, is by definition, not 'aggressing'

someone who has already stolen something, or done some other petty crime, isnt 'aggressing',,,


,,,,,get the point there?

msharmony's photo
Sun 05/31/15 07:03 AM



When the public narrative blames the police instead of the thugs, there is a problem on many, many, levels.

The mayor of Baltimore needs to be fired quickly. The police commissioner and that insane prejudiced prosecutor need to hit the road too.

People are dying because police are being blamed for killing crooks.

"Hands up, don't shoot" was just a lie.



someone stealing someone should not give anyone a right to kill them , even police

crooks are responsible for their crimes, yes,, to extend that to say that the presence of a crime alone is justification for an unarmed mans death is homicidal nonsense,,,


Trying to take a cop's gun is a sure-fire death sentence.

Repeating the lie "Hands up don't shoot" as fact over and over in the face of evidence to the contrary is the "nonsense" that is causing the current deaths of many.

And we know who has been doing that, don't we?


hands up dont shoot isnt a 'lie'

anymore than 'put your hands up'


both are STATEMENTS ,one an order the other a request


and it has NOTHING to do with anyone killing anyone

yes, we do know,, KILLERS are killing people, some have uniforms and some dont


hands up dont shoot is a request learned/being learned by those who know that the slightest movement by them is seen as an 'aggression' or 'threat' that justifies death,,,


no photo
Sun 05/31/15 08:31 AM
no, he doesnt, and he doesnt escape the
definition either
the use of reasonable force to protect oneself
or members of the family from bodily harm
from the attack of an aggressor,
stress on the words 'REASONABLE FORCE"
and 'AGGRESSOR'
somoene running away is not 'aggressing' on
anyone,, someone making eye contact isnt
'aggressing' on anyone, someone struggling or
resisting, is by definition, not 'aggressing'
someone who has already stolen something, or
done some other petty crime, isnt
'aggressing',,,
If youre talking Mike Brown, you'd be wrong....per Missouri law:

"" 563.046. 1. A law enforcement
officer need not retreat or desist from
efforts to effect the arrest, or from
efforts to prevent the escape from
custody, of a person he reasonably
believes to have committed an offense
because of resistance or threatened
resistance of the arrestee. In addition
to the use of physical force authorized
under other sections of this chapter, he
is, subject to the provisions of
subsections 2 and 3, justified in the
use of such physical force as he
reasonably believes is immediately
necessary to effect the arrest or to
prevent the escape from custody.
2. The use of any physical force in
making an arrest is not justified under
this section unless the arrest is lawful
or the law enforcement officer
reasonably believes the arrest is
lawful.
3. A law enforcement officer in
effecting an arrest or in preventing an
escape from custody is justified in
using deadly force only
(1) When such is authorized under
other sections of this chapter; or
(2) When he reasonably believes
that such use of deadly force is
immediately necessary to effect the
arrest and also reasonably believes
that the person to be arrested
(a) Has committed or attempted
to commit a felony; or

(b) Is attempting to escape by use
of a deadly weapon; or
(c) May otherwise endanger life or
inflict serious physical injury unless
arrested without delay.
4. The defendant shall have the
burden of injecting the issue of
justification under this section.""
http://www.moga.mo.gov/mostatutes/stathtml/56300000462.html

Per the section I highlighted, it can be argued that Mike Brown had committed or had attempted to commit 2 felonies....Strong arm robbery or attacking a police officer. Boom boom, buh bye thug, and its all legal.
Theres a reason law enforcement has this legal protection. Can you, in all your self professed wisdom, name the reason?

msharmony's photo
Sun 05/31/15 08:41 AM
Edited by msharmony on Sun 05/31/15 08:44 AM

no, he doesnt, and he doesnt escape the
definition either
the use of reasonable force to protect oneself
or members of the family from bodily harm
from the attack of an aggressor,
stress on the words 'REASONABLE FORCE"
and 'AGGRESSOR'
somoene running away is not 'aggressing' on
anyone,, someone making eye contact isnt
'aggressing' on anyone, someone struggling or
resisting, is by definition, not 'aggressing'
someone who has already stolen something, or
done some other petty crime, isnt
'aggressing',,,
If youre talking Mike Brown, you'd be wrong....per Missouri law:

"" 563.046. 1. A law enforcement
officer need not retreat or desist from
efforts to effect the arrest, or from
efforts to prevent the escape from
custody, of a person he reasonably
believes to have committed an offense
because of resistance or threatened
resistance of the arrestee. In addition
to the use of physical force authorized
under other sections of this chapter, he
is, subject to the provisions of
subsections 2 and 3, justified in the
use of such physical force as he
reasonably believes is immediately
necessary to effect the arrest or to
prevent the escape from custody.
2. The use of any physical force in
making an arrest is not justified under
this section unless the arrest is lawful
or the law enforcement officer
reasonably believes the arrest is
lawful.
3. A law enforcement officer in
effecting an arrest or in preventing an
escape from custody is justified in
using deadly force only
(1) When such is authorized under
other sections of this chapter; or
(2) When he reasonably believes
that such use of deadly force is
immediately necessary to effect the
arrest and also reasonably believes
that the person to be arrested
(a) Has committed or attempted
to commit a felony; or

(b) Is attempting to escape by use
of a deadly weapon; or
(c) May otherwise endanger life or
inflict serious physical injury unless
arrested without delay.
4. The defendant shall have the
burden of injecting the issue of
justification under this section.""
http://www.moga.mo.gov/mostatutes/stathtml/56300000462.html

Per the section I highlighted, it can be argued that Mike Brown had committed or had attempted to commit 2 felonies....Strong arm robbery or attacking a police officer. Boom boom, buh bye thug, and its all legal.
Theres a reason law enforcement has this legal protection. Can you, in all your self professed wisdom, name the reason?



feel free to enlighten me,, and thank you for explaining the reason for 'hands up, dont shoot'


if you are 'BELIEVED' to have committed a 'felony' Or ATTEMPTED TO COMMIT A FELONY, death is justifiable, to 'effect an arrest' , without prosecution or jury or judge



no photo
Sun 05/31/15 09:26 AM
feel free to enlighten me,, and thank you for
explaining the reason for 'hands up, dont
shoot'
Hands up dont shoot? Sure
....its a phrase some idiot invented to, irregardless of any actual facts, stir up stupid people and advance an agenda.
As far as the first question, keep thinking on it? youll get it one day....hopefully.


if you are 'BELIEVED' to have committed a
'felony' Or ATTEMPTED TO COMMIT A FELONY,
death is justifiable, to 'effect an arrest' ,
without prosecution or jury or judge
Are you saying Officer Wilson didnt reasonably believe Mike Brown was committing a felony as Mike was beating him? Or that Officer Wilson didnt reasonably believe that MB fit the radio broadcasted description of a suspect wanted in a strongarm robbery?
I think I read on here somewhere that you are a paralegal. If true, do you work for one of those shyster hit and run attornies?
No matter....go ahead and spin the story however you want. A dead thug isnt worth arguing over.

Conrad_73's photo
Sun 05/31/15 09:29 AM




When the public narrative blames the police instead of the thugs, there is a problem on many, many, levels.

The mayor of Baltimore needs to be fired quickly. The police commissioner and that insane prejudiced prosecutor need to hit the road too.

People are dying because police are being blamed for killing crooks.

"Hands up, don't shoot" was just a lie.



someone stealing someone should not give anyone a right to kill them , even police

crooks are responsible for their crimes, yes,, to extend that to say that the presence of a crime alone is justification for an unarmed mans death is homicidal nonsense,,,

never heard of Selfdefense,did you?
That right even applies to a Cop!
Doesn't give it up because he put on that Uniform!



no, he doesnt, and he doesnt escape the definition either


the use of reasonable force to protect oneself or members of the family from bodily harm from the attack of an aggressor,



stress on the words 'REASONABLE FORCE" and 'AGGRESSOR'

somoene running away is not 'aggressing' on anyone,, someone making eye contact isnt 'aggressing' on anyone, someone struggling or resisting, is by definition, not 'aggressing'

someone who has already stolen something, or done some other petty crime, isnt 'aggressing',,,


,,,,,get the point there?

If a 300-pounder is bearing down on me,after he has already tried to take my Firearm,is Dead Meat!

msharmony's photo
Sun 05/31/15 09:36 AM
Edited by msharmony on Sun 05/31/15 09:39 AM

feel free to enlighten me,, and thank you for
explaining the reason for 'hands up, dont
shoot'
Hands up dont shoot? Sure
....its a phrase some idiot invented to, irregardless of any actual facts, stir up stupid people and advance an agenda.
As far as the first question, keep thinking on it? youll get it one day....hopefully.


if you are 'BELIEVED' to have committed a
'felony' Or ATTEMPTED TO COMMIT A FELONY,
death is justifiable, to 'effect an arrest' ,
without prosecution or jury or judge
Are you saying Officer Wilson didnt reasonably believe Mike Brown was committing a felony as Mike was beating him? Or that Officer Wilson didnt reasonably believe that MB fit the radio broadcasted description of a suspect wanted in a strongarm robbery?
I think I read on here somewhere that you are a paralegal. If true, do you work for one of those shyster hit and run attornies?
No matter....go ahead and spin the story however you want. A dead thug isnt worth arguing over.


no, Im stating what I stated

'self defense' refers to an aggressor

police are wrongfully given discretion to use deadly force without there being a necessity for there to be anyone 'aggressing'

no spin, my opinion about how the laws give homocidal or otherwise easily threatened cops free reign based upon their 'beliefs' and need to 'effect an arrest' by any means even by killing a person

tell me, how do you arrest a dead person? nonsense , as its written, and all the reason people feel a need to raise their hands clearly and ask not to be shot so police may know they can 'affect an arrest' without killing them to do it,,,lol

msharmony's photo
Sun 05/31/15 09:38 AM





When the public narrative blames the police instead of the thugs, there is a problem on many, many, levels.

The mayor of Baltimore needs to be fired quickly. The police commissioner and that insane prejudiced prosecutor need to hit the road too.

People are dying because police are being blamed for killing crooks.

"Hands up, don't shoot" was just a lie.



someone stealing someone should not give anyone a right to kill them , even police

crooks are responsible for their crimes, yes,, to extend that to say that the presence of a crime alone is justification for an unarmed mans death is homicidal nonsense,,,

never heard of Selfdefense,did you?
That right even applies to a Cop!
Doesn't give it up because he put on that Uniform!



no, he doesnt, and he doesnt escape the definition either


the use of reasonable force to protect oneself or members of the family from bodily harm from the attack of an aggressor,



stress on the words 'REASONABLE FORCE" and 'AGGRESSOR'

somoene running away is not 'aggressing' on anyone,, someone making eye contact isnt 'aggressing' on anyone, someone struggling or resisting, is by definition, not 'aggressing'

someone who has already stolen something, or done some other petty crime, isnt 'aggressing',,,


,,,,,get the point there?

If a 300-pounder is bearing down on me,after he has already tried to take my Firearm,is Dead Meat!



thats a HUGE IF

and all the more reason if one is obese or another 'threatening' type throw up ones hands to assure that noone is trying to 'bear' down or otherwise harm the poor defenseless cop who can not possibly be safe without killing that person,,,

no photo
Sun 05/31/15 07:08 PM
MsH, your responses to the post of others here make no sense at all.noway


msharmony's photo
Sun 05/31/15 07:46 PM

MsH, your responses to the post of others here make no sense at all.noway





plain english and proper grammer, if its not understood , it says more about the reader than the writer,,,