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Topic: So-Called Hating Vs. One's Opinion?
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Thu 04/23/15 09:53 PM
I've noticed that the word "hater" comes up a good bit when someone doesn't agree with what someone else is doing or saying. For example. The other day I was looking at videos on YouTube. This was a really nice looking car. With the exception of the big 26 inch wheels.

To me, the car looked ridiculous. All I said was, "The car looks good. But as for me I would have made a different choice for wheels." I was labeled a hater right then and there. In other words, If you have a different idea of what looks bad to you, and the mainstream says "this looks good" It's not that you have a different opinion. Your opinion doesn't matter. Because it isn't the mainstream opinion. Because you have a different opinion, You are a hater.

I've noticed that anything the mainstream likes If you don't like it or have a different opinion about it, You are labeled a hater.

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Fri 04/24/15 03:43 AM
opinion - open for debate, willingness to learn more on a topic, can take things into context

hater - closed mindedness, looking for areas to punch holes into, unable to put arguments into proper perspective just to justify being right about something

trolls - intentionally misleading information and ideas, contradicting and misguiding all ideas to promote dissent

interpretation can be dependent on both poster's and reader's intent and frame of mind.

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Fri 04/24/15 07:06 AM

DevilDog123 stated >>>
Disagreeing with someone on topics is healthy and at times some of the points can ( and do) get sharp depending on the subject matter.

Personally I don't have a problem with that... at all. I would much rather deal with someone who is speaking their mind and disagreeing with my opinion as opposed to someone who "will go with the flow" or constantly be PC.". I may not agree with them.. but I will respect them for being honest and standing for what they believe.

Even when you disagree with someone.. it throws another dimension into your mind.. their opinion.. and that broadens your understanding of people, in general.. which is very healthy

On a rare occasion I have seen posts where in my opinion the person was hateful, but usually that seemed to be due to some personal experience they went thru or were going thru

JustScribbles stated >>>
:thumbsup: Absolutely.

There are a number of thought-provoking, considerate, just plain talented debaters, here. And I run into more every day. This is a pretty sharp group of critters.


To true both statements; but when we think that our snide rejoinder/pack attack mentality will change the other posters mind is this 'OPINION' or 'HATE' and becomes nothing more than a sorry excuse for a conversation 'gone wrong'!
It's one thing to crack a joke - bring in a off color comment to lighten the mood - hey who doesn't enjoy a joke?

And when all else fails and the conversation starts falling apart; does gender make a difference in whether or not the 2 discussing a difficult topic will part ways in a 'FRIENDLY' manner or one has to lay waste the field in a 'take no prisoner/no holds barred' way?

Seems gender has played an issue especially in politics?

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Fri 04/24/15 07:10 AM
Edited by TMommy on Fri 04/24/15 07:13 AM
you know this is not new in some people's bag of tricks

when faced with a shrewd and intelligent opponent
if someone gets a little wobbly and feels like they might be losing ground
or that someone might be shooting holes in their arguement

when all else fails

the weak will go after things like gender, race, your religion
anything to provoke an emotional response out of you
tick you off and make you go away

I do try levity sometimes to lighten the mood
and though it appears that I swoop in and de-rail a thread by doing so
there is usually a method to such madness :wink:

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Fri 04/24/15 07:13 AM
It's all a bit of a subjective topic. Too much wiggle room.

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Fri 04/24/15 07:31 AM
TMommy stated >>>
you know this is not new in some people's bag of tricks

when faced with a shrewd and intelligent opponent
if someone gets a little wobbly and feels like they might be losing ground or that someone might be shooting holes in their argument when all else fails

the weak will go after things like gender, race, your religion
anything to provoke an emotional response out of you
tick you off and make you go away

I do try levity sometimes to lighten the mood
and though it appears that I swoop in and de-rail a thread by doing so there is usually a method to such madness :wink:


I've done the same thing if I'm already vested into the topic and I hate to see the discussion get pounded into something that it shouldn't or someone 'blown' away by a personal attack.
But I've found as the Internet age as grown and FB has taken over so many community forums {many have just shriveled up and died} that the majority of men to women has always been skewed more toward the male species and not for the female; I was quite surprised and pleased to find so many active women participating on this community forum.

2 old die hard political sights that I participate on {circa 2004} have lost 99% of their female participants and now we're just down to some of the 'die hard - hard headed' last of the originals that know each other so well we can type a response without even waiting for their signature! Becomes really boring without the 'NEWBIES' to bring in a fresh IDEA or two! LOL


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Sat 04/25/15 10:58 AM
great topic,, its like the difference between a reason and an excuse

it really seems to be quite a subjective difference based solely on the listeners/readers perspective

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Sat 04/25/15 07:48 PM
Like Taylor Swift says "shake it off" If we lose our ability to have opinions we will fail as a society.

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