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Well I am going to weigh in a bit here.
A. IN 1985 when I became a widow and had to wait for estate to settle. I was in college.. I had to take any menial job I could to keep food on the table and roof over our heads. B. In 2015 I make a good living and yet I find I am having to make choice of what I can afford and what I can't. I am being taxed to death and IMO it is more for the entitlement programs out here. To me the jobs in the fast food industry were traditionally jobs that went to kids or college students they weren't job that someone said Gee I am going to make flipping burgers a career choice. IF someone is content in this field then they should also be content with the low pay. In this country if a person wants an education bad enough they can get one and move up in life. So let's take this scenario a bit farther, so we give this raise to a single parent that is barely making it now with the Gov. handouts and working full time. The wages go up to 15. an hour that just put that person out the bracket to receive financial help of any kind and the cost of living is going to go up again. Is the system broke it sure is the same as our health care is broke.. How do we fix it I am sure we all have ideas that are geniune and we need to work together. What I don't want to see is another quick fix that turns into a fiasco as the health care crap I am now paying triple what I was before and my deductions are double.. This isn't the way to do it IMO. |
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Edited by
Sojourning_Soul
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Wages should not be an issue for the federal government. What is a "living" wage? Keep in mind that the cost of living is not the same in New York as it is in Saint Louis. It's not the same in Anchorage as it is Mobile. It's not the same in Los Angeles as it is Indianapolis. It's not the same in Missoula as it is in Montpelier. In some places $15/hour is more than sufficient. In other places it's not. what do think minimum wage means ???? it means this amount (whatever the # it is)..is what a worker would be paid for his labor >>>> no matter what state or city he lived in... It's not an issue for the federal government. States are perfectly capable of handling this issue. That's the premise of the Tenth Amendment. and how much worse it is for the working poor man in the big cities ? imagine washing cars for rich guys all day for 8 bucks an hour...does california have a state tax ? doesn't leave much to live on...what's his net pay...like maybe 200 a week..?? the wages in cali are higher to compensate the cost of living there... thats one of the reasons why i was saying the raising the minimum wage won't change anything, because the prices will go up as well... 1 person working for 3 dollars and hour in 1950 actually had more take home money than people today... house would cost 5000 dollars a new car would cost maybe 800 dollars maybe 6 dollars a week for food no one forced you to buy insurance, of any kind, and doctors were very cheap as well... so they were happy and had money they could save... the ratio of unskilled labor wages paid vs. inflation has been in a steady decline since the early 80's when american jobs began disappearing overseas... $3.00 per hour (in 1950) is approx $6,000 yearly.... $5,000 for a house ...less than a years salary...thats seems reasonable... $8.00 per hour (in 2015) is approx $16,000 yearly... $160,000 for a house....is ten times the yearly salary....that seems UN-reasonable.. the minimum wage should be looked upon as only a starting point from which the unskilled and minimally educated can begin to move UP the ladder of success..ideally we should strive for the day when the minimum wage is no longer necessary...when all employers pay more than the set figure... this ratio of wages vs inflation is what has caused the "american dream" to become a mere fantasy for half of all americans...it has become unattainable.... 3 bucks an hour 1950 --- 8 bucks an hour in 2015....would anybody in their right mind be happy with a 5 dollar raise once every 65 years..?? If someone stays at Mickey D's for 65 years they don't have the gumption or desire to earn a better life for themselves. If they advance to management then there are raises and bonuses involved, if they don't then they're idiots for staying and not seeking something better! But were not talking people in that scenario but rather the industry, and it has always been a low wage starter position and NOT a career move! So be real, or at least, realistic! |
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2OLD2MESSAROUND
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College Tuition Increases By Smallest Percentage In 30 Years For Public Universities AP|By KIMBERLY HEFLING Posted:10/23/2013 9:44 am EDT "It does seem that the spiral is moderating. Not turning around, not ending, but moderating," Baum said. The average published cost for tuition and fees at a private college for the 2013-14 academic year was $30,094 up $1,105. An out-of-state student at a public college or university faced an annual average price tag of $22,203, which is up $670. The average price tag for an in-state student to attend a two-year institution was much less at $3,264 up $110. Most students don't actually pay that, though. There are grants, tax credits and deductions that help ease the cost of going to college. About two-thirds of full-time students get grants, most from the federal government. But, in the two years leading up to the 2012-2013 school year, the federal aid per full-time equivalent undergraduate student declined 9 percent, or about $325. That means students have to foot more of the bill themselves. "The rapid increases in college prices have slowed, however, student and families are paying more because grant aid is not keeping up," said David Coleman, president of the College Board. While the average published price for tuition and fees for a private college is $30,094, the net price is $12,460 up $530 from last year. The net price is what they actually pay after grants. There were years this decade that saw the net price going down, but it has gone up the last two years. The average published in-state price for tuition and fees at a public four-year school is $8,893, but the average net price is about $3,120. Molly Corbett Broad, president of the American Council on Education, in a statement called it "troubling" that overall grant aid is not keeping up with prices. Her organization represents the presidents of U.S. colleges and universities. "Institutions are committed to holding down costs, but it is equally important for state and federal governments to play their part to make college affordable," she said. The College Board is a not-for-profit membership group that promotes college access and owns the SAT exam. The report spells out the large declines in state appropriations given to public institutions in recent years. These cuts have been blamed for rises in college costs. Other causes often cited range from the high cost of health care for employees to the demand by students for flashier campus amenities. **for the entire article >>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/23/college-tuition-increases-college-board_n_4148957.html ********************************** Sadly, education - welfare - soc. security are always the first things that show up on the budget chopping block; not the MEGA DOD that has ZERO audit {nor have they ever had and they just keep misplacing "On September 10, 2001, Rumsfeld announced $2.3 trillion went missing in Iraq." + an additional “financial and management controls left it unable to properly account for $8.7 billion of the $9.1 billion in DFI funds.” The money vanished��**}...but that's another entire BURN MY ARSE ISSUE and yet it cuts and cuts deeply into why we are seeing our education keep getting sliced and the other services for our needy getting sacrificed due to piss poor money management by our WAR LORDS at the DOD! But you do bring up an interesting point: SitkaRains Stated >>> To me the jobs in the fast food industry were traditionally jobs that went to kids or college students they weren't job that someone said Gee I am going to make flipping burgers a career choice. IF someone is content in this field then they should also be content with the low pay.
Demographically that may hold true to your location but that is not the 'NORM' for most locations in the lower 48 states. Sad but true that some suburbanites find their urban youth unwilling to work {PERIOD} and those 'flip burger' jobs are placing ads trying to hire any warm body for even $20. an hour - granted they won't be getting any 25+ hours a week but they'll be getting 1 free meal and a uniform and some places aren't even running a UA on their new hires and that means the buses from the Kansas City Mission area are loading up all of their homeless and bringing them down into the Johnson County area for their job opportunities! Great - gets the homeless a job opportunity but not so great for those urbanites that are now finding those homeless sleeping on doorsteps/under bridges/places that they don't want the homeless just hanging out! Where do the homeless/poor disappear when the day light ends and it becomes dark --- where do they live - where do they're stats and data disappear to when they don't get counted? And as I already posted - here in rural America many of those 'flippin burger' positions are now going to people your parents age/my age/women doing 2-4 part-time jobs just to make a bare living and still showing up at the local bread basket/commodities because they still qualify for assistance because foods stamps are now only $26. a month! This is a real multifaceted problem with lots of logistic issues but allowing the living wage to continue to lag behind the Cost of Living --- Well How's That Worked Out??? **http://www.prisonplanet.com/disappearing-act-8-7-billion-of-iraq-development-money-missing.html |
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why not just allow mcdonalds, and any other corporations for that matter, to hire undocumented illegal aliens at $ 2.00 an hour and screw all them lazy americans..?
after all, it is a free country and they are smart businessmen whose only concern is fattening up that bottom line......it'll be better that way for all americans and we can go back to ten cent value menu then....not ! ....prices only go up when greed is the motivator... |
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Edited by
2OLD2MESSAROUND
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argo63
why not just allow mcdonalds, and any other corporations for that matter, to hire undocumented illegal aliens at $ 2.00 an hour and screw all them lazy americans..? after all, it is a free country and they are smart businessmen whose only concern is fattening up that bottom line......it'll be better that way for all americans and we can go back to ten cent value menu then....not ! ....prices only go up when greed is the motivator... I know you were just joking Argo...but I was just discussing this very topic on another political forum and it seems apropos for here as well>>> No China - Not India - Not Some Other 3rd World Country; Nope right here in our very own USA!!! The 138-page report, ��Tobacco��s Hidden Children: Hazardous Child Labor in US Tobacco Farming, documents conditions for children working on tobacco farms in four states where 90 percent of US tobacco is grown: North Carolina, Kentucky, Tennessee, and Virginia. Children reported vomiting, nausea, headaches, and dizziness while working on tobacco farms, all symptoms consistent with acute nicotine poisoning. Many also said they worked long hours without overtime pay, often in extreme heat without shade or sufficient breaks, and wore no, or inadequate, protective gear.
As the school year ends, children are heading into the tobacco fields, where they can’t avoid being exposed to dangerous nicotine, without smoking a single cigarette said Margaret Wurth, children��s rights researcher at Human Rights Watch and co-author of the report. “It’s no surprise the children exposed to poisons in the tobacco fields are getting sick.�� The report is based on interviews with 141 child tobacco workers, ages seven to 17! http://www.huffingtonpost.com/human-rights-watch/watch-big-tobacco-profits_b_5324378.html When asked these children are told to say; "yes, we make minimum wage; and yet when the reporters check some of their pay stubs the calculations were far less and the hours were well over 40 hours per week. These little children doing adult labor right here in our own country for BIG TOBACCO! |
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argo63
why not just allow mcdonalds, and any other corporations for that matter, to hire undocumented illegal aliens at $ 2.00 an hour and screw all them lazy americans..? after all, it is a free country and they are smart businessmen whose only concern is fattening up that bottom line......it'll be better that way for all americans and we can go back to ten cent value menu then....not ! ....prices only go up when greed is the motivator... I know you were just joking Argo...but I was just discussing this very topic on another political forum and it seems apropos for here as well>>> No China - Not India - Not Some Other 3rd World Country; Nope right here in our very own USA!!! The 138-page report, ��Tobacco��s Hidden Children: Hazardous Child Labor in US Tobacco Farming, documents conditions for children working on tobacco farms in four states where 90 percent of US tobacco is grown: North Carolina, Kentucky, Tennessee, and Virginia. Children reported vomiting, nausea, headaches, and dizziness while working on tobacco farms, all symptoms consistent with acute nicotine poisoning. Many also said they worked long hours without overtime pay, often in extreme heat without shade or sufficient breaks, and wore no, or inadequate, protective gear.
As the school year ends, children are heading into the tobacco fields, where they can’t avoid being exposed to dangerous nicotine, without smoking a single cigarette said Margaret Wurth, children��s rights researcher at Human Rights Watch and co-author of the report. “It’s no surprise the children exposed to poisons in the tobacco fields are getting sick.�� The report is based on interviews with 141 child tobacco workers, ages seven to 17! http://www.huffingtonpost.com/human-rights-watch/watch-big-tobacco-profits_b_5324378.html When asked these children are told to say; "yes, we make minimum wage; and yet when the reporters check some of their pay stubs the calculations were far less and the hours were well over 40 hours per week. These little children doing adult labor right here in our own country for BIG TOBACCO! I'd be happy if my 16-17 year olds had jobs.... |
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argo63
why not just allow mcdonalds, and any other corporations for that matter, to hire undocumented illegal aliens at $ 2.00 an hour and screw all them lazy americans..? after all, it is a free country and they are smart businessmen whose only concern is fattening up that bottom line......it'll be better that way for all americans and we can go back to ten cent value menu then....not ! ....prices only go up when greed is the motivator... I know you were just joking Argo...but I was just discussing this very topic on another political forum and it seems apropos for here as well>>> No China - Not India - Not Some Other 3rd World Country; Nope right here in our very own USA!!! The 138-page report, ��Tobacco��s Hidden Children: Hazardous Child Labor in US Tobacco Farming, documents conditions for children working on tobacco farms in four states where 90 percent of US tobacco is grown: North Carolina, Kentucky, Tennessee, and Virginia. Children reported vomiting, nausea, headaches, and dizziness while working on tobacco farms, all symptoms consistent with acute nicotine poisoning. Many also said they worked long hours without overtime pay, often in extreme heat without shade or sufficient breaks, and wore no, or inadequate, protective gear.
As the school year ends, children are heading into the tobacco fields, where they can’t avoid being exposed to dangerous nicotine, without smoking a single cigarette said Margaret Wurth, children��s rights researcher at Human Rights Watch and co-author of the report. “It’s no surprise the children exposed to poisons in the tobacco fields are getting sick.�� The report is based on interviews with 141 child tobacco workers, ages seven to 17! http://www.huffingtonpost.com/human-rights-watch/watch-big-tobacco-profits_b_5324378.html When asked these children are told to say; "yes, we make minimum wage; and yet when the reporters check some of their pay stubs the calculations were far less and the hours were well over 40 hours per week. These little children doing adult labor right here in our own country for BIG TOBACCO! I'd be happy if my 16-17 year olds had jobs.... |
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argo63
why not just allow mcdonalds, and any other corporations for that matter, to hire undocumented illegal aliens at $ 2.00 an hour and screw all them lazy americans..? after all, it is a free country and they are smart businessmen whose only concern is fattening up that bottom line......it'll be better that way for all americans and we can go back to ten cent value menu then....not ! ....prices only go up when greed is the motivator... I know you were just joking Argo...but I was just discussing this very topic on another political forum and it seems apropos for here as well>>> No China - Not India - Not Some Other 3rd World Country; Nope right here in our very own USA!!! The 138-page report, ��Tobacco��s Hidden Children: Hazardous Child Labor in US Tobacco Farming, documents conditions for children working on tobacco farms in four states where 90 percent of US tobacco is grown: North Carolina, Kentucky, Tennessee, and Virginia. Children reported vomiting, nausea, headaches, and dizziness while working on tobacco farms, all symptoms consistent with acute nicotine poisoning. Many also said they worked long hours without overtime pay, often in extreme heat without shade or sufficient breaks, and wore no, or inadequate, protective gear.
As the school year ends, children are heading into the tobacco fields, where they can’t avoid being exposed to dangerous nicotine, without smoking a single cigarette said Margaret Wurth, children��s rights researcher at Human Rights Watch and co-author of the report. “It’s no surprise the children exposed to poisons in the tobacco fields are getting sick.�� The report is based on interviews with 141 child tobacco workers, ages seven to 17! http://www.huffingtonpost.com/human-rights-watch/watch-big-tobacco-profits_b_5324378.html When asked these children are told to say; "yes, we make minimum wage; and yet when the reporters check some of their pay stubs the calculations were far less and the hours were well over 40 hours per week. These little children doing adult labor right here in our own country for BIG TOBACCO! I'd be happy if my 16-17 year olds had jobs.... they need to learn, i think all kids should be working... or military, either or... |
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i think all kids should be studying, so they can look forward to a better life when they leave home, and face the world that awaits them, as young adults...jmo
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Edited by
Sojourning_Soul
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Sun 04/19/15 09:14 PM
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i think all kids should be studying, so they can look forward to a better life when they leave home, and face the world that awaits them, as young adults...jmo So under todays educational system, the high cost, the unpayable student loans because there are no jobs after education, you want kids to take on debt they can't afford with the "hopes" they might get a job, instead of working, taking a few courses at an affordable rate, and hope the economy/situation improves to finish their education. Or do you want taxpayers to take on the debt of paying for every childs education....even those who have no children because they feel they can't afford them. Either way, heavily in debt out of the box, or putting the burden on taxpayers, neither is a logical, just, or equitable solution It only helps the banks and institutions, not the student or the taxpayer Get govt out of the equation all together and you might have something! And I'm not just talking education! They've already ruined education, healthcare, privacy, farming, industry, the environment, and the economy Hell! They even turned near Earth orbit into a junk yard as well as our oceans! And shall we talk about our cities.....? Somebody pays! And the govt only has what it can steal from the people and that ain't much after the bankers are through with us! |
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i think all kids should be studying, so they can look forward to a better life when they leave home, and face the world that awaits them, as young adults...jmo So under todays educational system, the high cost, the unpayable student loans because there are no jobs after education, you want kids to take on debt they can't afford with the "hopes" they might get a job, instead of working, taking a few courses at an affordable rate, and hope the economy/situation improves to finish their education. Or do you want taxpayers to take on the debt of paying for every childs education....even those who have no children because they feel they can't afford them. Either way, heavily in debt out of the box, or putting the burden on taxpayers, neither is a logical, just, or equitable solution It only helps the banks and institutions, not the student or the taxpayer Get govt out of the equation all together and you might have something! And I'm not just talking education! They've already ruined education, healthcare, privacy, farming, industry, the environment, and the economy Hell! They even turned near Earth orbit into a junk yard as well as our oceans! And shall we talk about our cities.....? Somebody pays! And the govt only has what it can steal from the people and that ain't much after the bankers are through with us! where in my post does there say or apply to any of this^^ stuff ? it says i THINK kids should be studying.........etc etc.........JMO nowhere do i mention i WANT anything .....taxpayer burden, student loans, banks or govt's...blah blah blah....and it ends with the abbr......JMO (just my opinion).... why are you quoting me if your reply has nothing at all to do with my post ??? look, you're entitled to give your opinion just like everyone else.......i just don't understand your point in quoting my post....??? |
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The facts of the matter are clear. There is a wide range of talents and ability within people. Not all folk are good at the same things. In America, there is no excuse for not having cultivated an economic(socio-political) system which is capable of providing all types of folk with a means to be successful, if by that I mean being able earn a decent wage - doing what they're good at - in order to live in reasonable comfort.
Our economy isn't a free market and it never has been. There is no such thing. Even Adam Smith - the father of capitalism - was against patents, coercion, corporationism, and any laws and/or principles which created an inability for one to be held accountable for the negative consequences that their actions had on the populace. As this pertains to the OP... Why shouldn't it be the case that all jobs be required to pay a living wage? A living wage is one that enables someone to live and prosper in today's society - at today's level of living expenses - without the need for public assistance. Who in their right mind would be willing to argue that not all law-abiding citizens of The United States Of America 'deserve' to have a decent paying job available, especially when those jobs and the socio-economic landscape is created, influenced, and cultivated by us! I don't get some folk. It's as if they think that some people do not deserve to be paid enough to live on. We aren't born into society by choice. One's birth place and circumstances should not be the sole determining factor of whether or not they can be self-sufficient. |
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What I don't want to see is another quick fix that turns into a fiasco as the health care crap I am now paying triple what I was before and my deductions are double.. This isn't the way to do it IMO. Did you go to the Affordable Health Care Act website? |
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Edited by
2OLD2MESSAROUND
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SitkaRains stated >>>
What I don't want to see is another quick fix that turns into a fiasco as the health care crap I am now paying triple what I was before and my deductions are double.. This isn't the way to do it IMO. creativesoul asked >>> Did you go to the Affordable Health Care Act website? Well...as with my state of KS; we all would have been wonderfully covered and paying our allocated fair share for our deductible...but the SCOTUS ruled and that changed the entire ball game for the ACA --- each state had the 'RIGHT TO OPT OUT' and that's exactly what some states did >>> 
At the time this map was created Alaska and KS were 'pending/considering' --- later both governors signed off on 'WAVING' the ACA for our states and WE WERE SCREWED. ACA basically serves very little purpose for those of us in those 'WAVERED' states unless you have an emergency and end up in the hospital...but the deductible is huge and that 'SPEND DOWN' will make your out of pocket unobtainable to reach. |
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IDK if FF workers deserve $15 but they do deserve fair pay, good working conditions, and some daggone respect. If they all quit where will us Taco Bell and Mickey Ds junkies eat?
In some place like San Francisco $15 may not be all that much...here in Ohio it's asking a lot for slinging burgers. The kids who want this also need a lesson in Economy 101. McDs for example is almost to the point on their regular menu where I can go out to a regular restaurant for not that much more. So it becomes a matter of how much are we willing to pay to be able to drive thru and go. I have actually dealt with this recently. When I go out for lunch at work I now go to a Deli across from McDs because for about $2 more I can get awesome Panini bread :) |
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i think all kids should be studying, so they can look forward to a better life when they leave home, and face the world that awaits them, as young adults...jmo So under todays educational system, the high cost, the unpayable student loans because there are no jobs after education, you want kids to take on debt they can't afford with the "hopes" they might get a job, instead of working, taking a few courses at an affordable rate, and hope the economy/situation improves to finish their education. Or do you want taxpayers to take on the debt of paying for every childs education....even those who have no children because they feel they can't afford them. Either way, heavily in debt out of the box, or putting the burden on taxpayers, neither is a logical, just, or equitable solution It only helps the banks and institutions, not the student or the taxpayer Get govt out of the equation all together and you might have something! And I'm not just talking education! They've already ruined education, healthcare, privacy, farming, industry, the environment, and the economy Hell! They even turned near Earth orbit into a junk yard as well as our oceans! And shall we talk about our cities.....? Somebody pays! And the govt only has what it can steal from the people and that ain't much after the bankers are through with us! where in my post does there say or apply to any of this^^ stuff ? it says i THINK kids should be studying.........etc etc.........JMO nowhere do i mention i WANT anything .....taxpayer burden, student loans, banks or govt's...blah blah blah....and it ends with the abbr......JMO (just my opinion).... why are you quoting me if your reply has nothing at all to do with my post ??? look, you're entitled to give your opinion just like everyone else.......i just don't understand your point in quoting my post....??? Studying implies education, and education is not cheap. I only stated the obvious truths of that choice. Somebody pays! We are charged a heavy tax burden to support grants, and govt programs that are supposed to allow even the poorest among us to "get ahead" if we take advantage of them. There is however a problem with fraud, misappropriation, graft, and corruption, which leads to the higher cost of everything govt touches because there is usually some official or committee charged with oversight that fails to do their job. Govt needs to get out of the business of trying to control peoples lives. It's NOT their job! |
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The UK living wage rate is �7.85p ($11.60c) p/hr and the minimum wage is �6.50p ($9.75c) p/hr. Not too sure what the rate is in the States though? I know the London, living wage rate is higher than the rest of the UK, �9.15p ($13.70c) p/hr, as it costs a lot more to stay there!
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sweetestgirl11 stated >>>
IDK if FF workers deserve $15 but they do deserve fair pay, good working conditions, and some daggone respect. If they all quit where will us Taco Bell and Mickey Ds junkies eat? In some place like San Francisco $15 may not be all that much...here in Ohio it's asking a lot for slinging burgers. The kids who want this also need a lesson in Economy 101. McDs for example is almost to the point on their regular menu where I can go out to a regular restaurant for not that much more. So it becomes a matter of how much are we willing to pay to be able to drive thru and go. I have actually dealt with this recently. When I go out for lunch at work I now go to a Deli across from McDs because for about $2 more I can get awesome Panini bread :) Geographically speaking...that is exactly correct; and back in the day when our society would relocate to those areas that generated those types of well paying jobs {circa 40's - 70's UNION LABOR} cities like Chicago/Philadelphia/Detroit...grew in leaps and bounds, if you had a hands on blue collar skill! In the late 70's - 90's it was Silicon Valley and the techno era jobs where a college education or the basics in computers could get your foot in the door - white collar/nerd jobs. But now the poor aren't the mobile {able to relocate} humans that we once were so they are locked into those inner cities - concrete jungle! Alaska - demographics is entirely unique to what my rural area would compare too; so that would be apple to oranges and our jobs and opportunities would be a non-comparative! Just a lot of variables in this 'living wage' issue --- but it needs a 'FIX' because ignoring it just pushes that many more AMERICANS out onto our assistance programs and those programs are the same ones that get the budget cuts FIRST! |
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Alaska - demographics is entirely unique to
what my rural area would compare too; so that would be apple to oranges and our jobs and opportunities would be a non- comparative! Just a lot of variables in this 'living wage' issue --- but it needs a 'FIX' because ignoring it just pushes that many more AMERICANS out onto our assistance programs and those programs are the same ones that get the budget cuts FIRST! Meh....there is already a "fix". Metropolises like NYC can already raise the minimum wage if they want to. There is no need to force that same wage on a smaller community like mine where it would have adverse effects on small business labor cost Minimum wage increases dont just effect the lowest guy on the totem pole. Lets say that guy gets his minimum wage forced to $15/hr....what about the guy who was already making that wage? Dontcha think he is now gonna want a bump also? Maybe a better fix is, instead of forcing a pay increase on small business, give them tax breaks.....BIG tax breaks. Contrary to what certain people believe, the small business owners I know WANT to grow....and I firmly believe thats what the majority of small businesses in America want to do. So, make it easier for them to do so. And with that growth of a particular small business comes more jobs.....and not minimum wage ones either. But hell, lets be honest....this whole "raise the minimum wage" thing isnt about helping a fellow man out....its abt a certain political party wanting to be able to say "Look what I did.....now vote for me". |
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Unskilled labour, deserves the lowest wages.
If an idiot fastfood worker, can't advance their skillset or education, let them starve. . |
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