All I look for in a relationship is mutual love, not to be treated like crap or I'm out, why does that sound horrible? What sounds horrible is someone saying that men and women are gonna treat each other like crap and that's that, so be happy or be alone. How depressing to be ok with crap for love.

if every man is treating you like crap, then maybe it's not the men?

INSANE: doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results...

life is rough all over, huh...

what sounds horrible is the expectation you have of the crap being there and it just being a matter of time for it to come out. if you were my wife i would love you unconditionally, not mutually. i wouldn't place a condition on my feelings for you

you are making yourself look like a battered animal at an animal shelter. you won't get adopted like that. ffs at least pretend you are a happy camper and maybe some unsuspecting dope will fall for it. then you can withhold sex and screw him up. maybe then you'll feel like the score is tied

I don't need a man, I can take care of myself thank you very much.....but I would enjoy the company of one, to spend time with, to have fun with...not sure what you mean by a real man, they are all real.....some of these threads have gotten ridiculous all the man bashing....men have feelings too, they are human, just because you have been burnt by one or maybe even two doesn't give you the right to classify them all as dead beats or jerks or uncaring....honestly the same can be said about women. We aren't perfect, we are designed to make mistakes, the problem is that some of us don't learn from our mistakes or they want to blame others for them. The fact is you will never find the "right" one as long as you keep making comparisons and generalizations. Stop being so bitter and forgive and move forward, life is too short to be so unhappy all the time.

I said it because another woman says it's ok to let a guy treat me like crap. I would not normally go on and on about this, but I need to make my point.

It seems like I can't find too many people who get me here, so I need to talk about boring things that normal people should already know, but that's ok because this is a strange bunch, not normal..strange is interesting. Maybe I will bring out some other strangers who feel strange to talk to this bunch of closed mindeds. Because strange is good lol.

I like real men. I need one and I don't need one, it depends if I'm in love.

so what is a "real man", in your definition?

Guys who just come out to bash the women who want equality instead of supporting us are not real men and are not gentlemen. This topic is waiting to hear from the gentlemen which seem not to exist at the moment.

...where did I say men are closed minded? There's plenty of women here who support the same ideology as some of the men.

Darling.... I think you're in for a long wait.

All the men responding are gentlemen and very real.....I'm pretty sure if they weren't gentlemen they would be saying a lot worse things to you instead of trying to defend themselves against such a bitter person!!

I believe women deserve better..did you know that murder is one of the leading causes of death for pregnant women?

I did not say that it was okay to be treated like crap....I said that as imperfect beings we occasionally treat each other like crap...and when someone we care about does it we can extend compassion and understanding just as we ask for compassion and understanding when we do it. You are not perfect...you have treated someone like crap in your life...if you can't acknowledge that simple truth then you are the one with a problem not every man on the planet. If you want equality then dish it out.

I think Estelle needs to be dominated. Women like her must be kept on a very short leash, otherwise they lash out and become feminists.

Misty...you need to be a Real Man,
And marry that gal.

This is just overly compassionate crap. Do you know what your compassion theory generates? Abused/dead women and children, so I say f your compassion, give it to the victims.