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Topic: Charity vs Sin
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Fri 03/06/15 06:15 AM
Folks what do you make of the assertion that, "Charity pardons all sin?"

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Fri 03/06/15 06:20 AM

Folks what do you make of the assertion that, "Charity pardons all sin?"


Christ's grace is suffient, there's nothing YOU can do to pardon any sin. Christ already pardoned your sin.

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Fri 03/06/15 06:28 AM

Folks what do you make of the assertion that, "Charity pardons all sin?"



In my humble opinion, the above assertion seems 'consummately baseless'!
For example, I might decide to 'rob a bank' & 'feed hundreds of economically deprived souls' a square meal...Wouldn't make sense, I guess!flowerforyou

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Fri 03/06/15 06:36 AM


Folks what do you make of the assertion that, "Charity pardons all sin?"



In my humble opinion, the above assertion seems 'consummately baseless'!
For example, I might decide to 'rob a bank' & 'feed hundreds of economically deprived souls' a square meal...Wouldn't make sense, I guess!flowerforyou


If one is in Christ, they will not have the heart to do such things.


2 Corinthians 5:17

17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.


That includes your wants and or desires. If one can still continue to do the things they once did, they probably should reavaluate if they're truly living in Christ.

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Fri 03/06/15 06:56 AM



Folks what do you make of the assertion that, "Charity pardons all sin?"



In my humble opinion, the above assertion seems 'consummately baseless'!
For example, I might decide to 'rob a bank' & 'feed hundreds of economically deprived souls' a square meal...Wouldn't make sense, I guess!flowerforyou


If one is in Christ, they will not have the heart to do such things.


2 Corinthians 5:17

17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.


That includes your wants and or desires. If one can still continue to do the things they once did, they probably should reavaluate if they're truly living in Christ.




flowerforyou

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Fri 03/06/15 07:20 AM
I sure hope so because I'm a big ,big give her...tongue2 :angel:

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Fri 03/06/15 09:11 AM
While only Almighty God can forgive sin and He has sent His intercessors of enlightenment through whom we receive that hope, Moses, Jesus, Mohammad, to mention a few... Both the Bible and the Quran state that making restitution through 'Charitable Acts' is still very important to a believer.

(Ephesians 4: 28) <--- From The Bible ---<<<

(Surah 5: 12) <---- From The Quran ---<<<

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Fri 03/06/15 09:50 AM

While only Almighty God can forgive sin and He has sent His intercessors of enlightenment through whom we receive that hope, Moses, Jesus, Mohammad, to mention a few... Both the Bible and the Quran state that making restitution through 'Charitable Acts' is still very important to a believer.

(Ephesians 4: 28) <--- From The Bible ---<<<

(Surah 5: 12) <---- From The Quran ---<<<


Umm Sheik, Jesus is the judge.

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Fri 03/06/15 10:05 AM
Edited by SheikOfLaBroquerie on Fri 03/06/15 10:13 AM
Yes Cowboy GH, Jesus sits at the right-hand of Allah, and he will be part of the judging process by Allah's leave.


(Surah 3: 55)

(Surah 56: 8-40)

(Surah 90: 12-18)





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Fri 03/06/15 10:41 AM

Folks what do you make of the assertion that, "Charity pardons all sin?"


I am with Cowboy. Jesus pardons sins,,I am sure he takes charity AND sin into consideration,,,


and allows neither to just negate the other,, they all are part of the judement TOGETHER

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Fri 03/06/15 10:48 AM
And who gives Jesus leave to pardon a sin, Msharmony?

Remember, Jesus said I can do nothing except by leave of Him who sent me.

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Fri 03/06/15 10:51 AM

And who gives Jesus leave to pardon a sin, Msharmony?

Remember, Jesus said I can do nothing except by leave of Him who sent me.


all the same

noone sees the father except through the son,, he is the first who has to authorize,,,,

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Fri 03/06/15 10:54 AM
Here's an interesting thought that's pertinent to this discussion.

(Hebrews 7: 7)

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Fri 03/06/15 11:00 AM
So, does Almighty God answer to Jesus or is it the other way around?

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Fri 03/06/15 12:55 PM

So, does Almighty God answer to Jesus or is it the other way around?


Neither


John 10:30

30 I and my Father are one.

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Fri 03/06/15 01:00 PM

And who gives Jesus leave to pardon a sin, Msharmony?

Remember, Jesus said I can do nothing except by leave of Him who sent me.


Nobody, Jesus is God.. and not just "God" but


Deuteronomy 10:17

17 For the Lord your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible, which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward:


Jesus isn't just the "son" of God. While Jesus was on Earth to say the least, they "played house". Jesus didn't come to the Earth to be worshipped and put on a pedstol while he was here. He was here to complete the prophecies of the old covenant and give us a new in it's place. Jesus is God almighty my friends.

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Fri 03/06/15 01:03 PM


Folks what do you make of the assertion that, "Charity pardons all sin?"


Christ's grace is suffient, there's nothing YOU can do to pardon any sin. Christ already pardoned your sin.


you do realize that statement gives people a blank check to commit sins, right?

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Fri 03/06/15 01:06 PM



Folks what do you make of the assertion that, "Charity pardons all sin?"


Christ's grace is suffient, there's nothing YOU can do to pardon any sin. Christ already pardoned your sin.


you do realize that statement gives people a blank check to commit sins, right?


Then their faith would be empty and in vein.



John 14:15

15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

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Fri 03/06/15 01:07 PM




Folks what do you make of the assertion that, "Charity pardons all sin?"


Christ's grace is suffient, there's nothing YOU can do to pardon any sin. Christ already pardoned your sin.


you do realize that statement gives people a blank check to commit sins, right?


Then their faith would be empty and in vein.



John 14:15

15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.



yea, i don't know what that means, tell me in your words, don't post scriptures please...

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Fri 03/06/15 01:10 PM





Folks what do you make of the assertion that, "Charity pardons all sin?"


Christ's grace is suffient, there's nothing YOU can do to pardon any sin. Christ already pardoned your sin.


you do realize that statement gives people a blank check to commit sins, right?


Then their faith would be empty and in vein.



John 14:15

15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.



yea, i don't know what that means, tell me in your words, don't post scriptures please...


First one must have faith before they can "love" something/someone, as in this case they would have to have faith in God to love him. And if we love God, we will keep his commandments. Thus people won't intentionally sin if they love God. Of course we'll stumble time to time in moments of weekness, and God is there to forgive us of our transgressions. But God know's our heart, thus he knows if we truly are repentful/sorry for that which is in question.

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