Topic: This Thanksgiving Weekend :)
LivingByBeats's photo
Sat 10/06/07 12:08 PM
it is a commonly held belief that thanksgiving is an american tradition in unity with the first nations in the 13 colonies prior to the formation of the united states of america. This is wholly false.

It should be noted that the 1578 ceremony was not the first Thanksgiving as defined by First Nations tradition. Long before the time of Martin Frobisher, it was traditional in many First Nations cultures to offer an official giving of thanks during autumnal gatherings. In Haudenosaunee culture, Thanksgiving is a prayer recited to honor "the three sisters" (i.e., beans, corn and squash) during the fall harvest.

The history of Thanksgiving in Canada goes back to an English explorer, Martin Frobisher, who had been futilely attempting to find a northern passage to the Orient. He did, however, establish a settlement in Canada. In the year 1578, Frobisher held a formal ceremony in what is now the province of Newfoundland and Labrador, to give thanks for surviving the long journey. This event is widely considered to be the first Canadian Thanksgiving, and the first official Thanksgiving to occur in North America. More settlers arrived and continued the ceremonial tradition initiated by Frobisher, who was eventually knighted and had an inlet of the Atlantic Ocean in northern Canada named after him — Frobisher Bay now known as Iqaluit.

In the United States the early settlers of Plymouth Colony in Massachusetts were particularly grateful to Squanto, the Native American who taught them how to catch eel, grow corn and who served as their native interpreter (as Squanto had learned English as a slave in Europe). Without Squanto's assistance, the settlers might not have survived in the New World.

The Plymouth settlers (who came to be called "Pilgrims") set apart a holiday immediately after their first harvest in 1621, when they held an autumn celebration of food, feasting, and praising God. The Native American chiefs Massassoit, Squanto and Samoset joined in the celebration with ninety of their men in the three-day event.

President Abraham Lincoln first declared Thanksgiving a Federal holiday..as a "prayerful day of Thanksgiving" on the last Thursday in November.

Modern Thanksgiving in the United States is now celebrated on the fourth Thursday in November.

Thanksgiving is entirely a Canadian holiday that has been transferred from the Native First Nations communities in North America, with the first official recognized holiday being with the British Settlers in Upper Canada 43 years prior to the recognized celebration in the 13 colonies, which later became the United States of America.

None the less. As it is Thanksgiving weekend here in Canada, I would like to wish each and everyone of you a pleasant rememberance of things good and right in all the harvest of our lives for this past year :)

Happy Thanksgiving!

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Sat 10/06/07 12:26 PM
I Hope You Have A Nice Thanksgiving As Well...TY

SarahsF8's photo
Sat 10/06/07 02:44 PM
Awww, thank you. Hope you're having a great holiday. flowerforyou

I am sad that I will have to wait so long for the southern Thanksgiving. It's my favorite holiday. Lots of family stuff, you know. :heart:

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Sat 10/06/07 07:16 PM
WOW...Thank you for the wonderful history...It's not often people get to read anything but the test book cut and paste history that is often so totally wrong!!!!!!

I am Haudeneshone...Mohawk and yes there is still a thanksgiving cermony held by the traditional people and in fact each gathering (even now) whether it be business meetings etc is always opened with a thanksgiving prayer to give thanks to all of creation in order to facilitate the bringing together of great minds!!!!!!!


ArtGurl's photo
Sat 10/06/07 07:19 PM
Happy Thanksgiving flowerforyou

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Sat 10/06/07 07:26 PM
Im so happy to be working on thanksgiving.......and to make double time and Im so happy I will get a happy meal that day!!:tongue: flowerforyou

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Sat 10/06/07 07:33 PM
Happy Thanksgiving:heart:
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Native_Grl39's photo
Sat 10/06/07 07:34 PM
Yes Happy Thanksgiving to all my fellow Canuks!!!!!!!!


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LivingByBeats's photo
Sun 10/07/07 09:33 PM
and tomorrow is the actual turkey fest :)
so far this weekend we've had roast pheasant, and chicken, and well i've been eating everything in site (including my usual staple of sardines.. cuz i like em so there humpf)

I was looking for a traditional native greeting for this festival and i can't seem to find it anywhere.... anyone native have one from their memory/history that they would like to share?

Claudette's photo
Sun 10/07/07 09:42 PM
Happy Thanksgivingflowerforyou

Native_Grl39's photo
Sun 10/07/07 09:45 PM
This is the traditional Thanksgiving Adress...Haudenesoneflowerforyou drinker flowerforyou

The People

Today we have gathered and we see that the cycles of life continue. We have been given the duty to live in balance and harmony with each other and all living things. So now, we bring our minds together as one as we give greetings and thanks to each other as people.

Now our minds are one.

The Earth Mother
We are all thankful to our Mother, the Earth, for she gives us all that we need for life. She supports our feet as we walk about upon her. It gives us joy that she continues to care for us as she has from the beginning of time. To our mother, we send greetings and thanks.

Now our minds are one.

The Waters
We give thanks to all the waters of the world for quenching our thirst and providing us with strength. Water is life. We know its power in many forms-waterfalls and rain, mists and streams, rivers and oceans. With one mind, we send greetings and thanks to the spirit of Water.

Now our minds are one.

The Fish
We turn our minds to the all the Fish life in the water. They were instructed to cleanse and purify the water. They also give themselves to us as food. We are grateful that we can still find pure water. So, we turn now to the Fish and send our greetings and thanks.

Now our minds are one.

The Plants
Now we turn toward the vast fields of Plant life. As far as the eye can see, the Plants grow, working many wonders. They sustain many life forms. With our minds gathered together, we give thanks and look forward to seeing Plant life for many generations to come.

Now our minds are one.

The Food Plants
With one mind, we turn to honor and thank all the Food Plants we harvest from the garden. Since the beginning of time, the grains, vegetables, beans and berries have helped the people survive. Many other living things draw strength from them too. We gather all the Plant Foods together as one and send them a greeting of thanks.

Now our minds are one.

The Medicine Herbs
Now we turn to all the Medicine herbs of the world. From the beginning they were instructed to take away sickness. They are always waiting and ready to heal us. We are happy there are still among us those special few who remember how to use these plants for healing. With one mind, we send greetings and thanks to the Medicines and to the keepers of the Medicines.

Now our minds are one.

The Animals
We gather our minds together to send greetings and thanks to all the Animal life in the world. They have many things to teach us as people. We are honored by them when they give up their lives so we may use their bodies as food for our people. We see them near our homes and in the deep forests. We are glad they are still here and we hope that it will always be so.

Now our minds are one

The Trees
We now turn our thoughts to the Trees. The Earth has many families of Trees who have their own instructions and uses. Some provide us with shelter and shade, others with fruit, beauty and other useful things. Many people of the world use a Tree as a symbol of peace and strength. With one mind, we greet and thank the Tree life.

Now our minds are one.

The Birds
We put our minds together as one and thank all the Birds who move and fly about over our heads. The Creator gave them beautiful songs. Each day they remind us to enjoy and appreciate life. The Eagle was chosen to be their leader. To all the Birds-from the smallest to the largest-we send our joyful greetings and thanks.

Now our minds are one.

The Four Winds
We are all thankful to the powers we know as the Four Winds. We hear their voices in the moving air as they refresh us and purify the air we breathe. They help us to bring the change of seasons. From the four directions they come, bringing us messages and giving us strength. With one mind, we send our greetings and thanks to the Four Winds.

Now our minds are one.

The Thunderers
Now we turn to the west where our grandfathers, the Thunder Beings, live. With lightning and thundering voices, they bring with them the water that renews life. We are thankful that they keep those evil things made by Okwiseres underground. We bring our minds together as one to send greetings and thanks to our Grandfathers, the Thunderers.

Now our minds are one.

The Sun
We now send greetings and thanks to our eldest Brother, the Sun. Each day without fail he travels the sky from east to west, bringing the light of a new day. He is the source of all the fires of life. With one mind, we send greetings and thanks to our Brother, the Sun.

Now our minds are one.

Grandmother Moon
We put our minds together to give thanks to our oldest Grandmother, the Moon, who lights the night-time sky. She is the leader of woman all over the world, and she governs the movement of the ocean tides. By her changing face we measure time, and it is the Moon who watches over the arrival of children here on Earth. With one mind, we send greetings and thanks to our Grandmother, the Moon.

Now our minds are one.

The Stars
We give thanks to the Stars who are spread across the sky like jewelry. We see them in the night, helping the Moon to light the darkness and bringing dew to the gardens and growing things. When we travel at night, they guide us home. With our minds gathered together as one, we send greetings and thanks to the Stars.

Now our minds are one.

The Enlightened Teachers
We gather our minds to greet and thank the enlightened Teachers who have come to help throughout the ages. When we forget how to live in harmony, they remind us of the way we were instructed to live as people. With one mind, we send greetings and thanks to these caring teachers.

Now our minds are one.

The Creator
Now we turn our thoughts to the creator, or Great Spirit, and send greetings and thanks for all the gifts of Creation. Everything we need to live a good life is here on this Mother Earth. For all the love that is still around us, we gather our minds together as one and send our choicest words of greetings and thanks to the Creator.

Now our minds are one.

Closing Words
We have now arrived at the place where we end our words. Of all the things we have named, it was not our intention to leave anything out. If something was forgotten, we leave it to each individual to send such greetings and thanks in their own way.

Now our minds are one.

LivingByBeats's photo
Sun 10/07/07 09:47 PM
Native_Grl39
smoooooooch!!!!
thank you so much ! I couldn't find a damn thing can you beleive it?

:) you are a rock star!!

Native_Grl39's photo
Sun 10/07/07 09:48 PM
Oh that's cause I hear it sooooooo often in my community...So I'm up to snuff on these things!!!!!!!

YW by they way!!!!!!!!!!

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