Topic: Hilary Clinton for president?
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Mon 02/16/15 11:15 PM

So the people who actually create jobs are unqualified to make decisions about the economy because they make a profit? Tell you what. Go to your local coffee shop, fast food joint, store, whatever. Some "greedy" business owner employs those people. But watch the interactions. When the exchange of cash for product is made, who says "thank you?" Not the person who was exploited and got the raw end of the deal. Oh, wait! BOTH parties say it! Why? Because it was a mutually beneficial transaction. If capitalism is so horrible, why did the Soviet Union collapse?


Capitalism is not horrible. But Hillary and I believe that businesses need to be limited. For example if we leave it to businesses they mostly choose not to pay their employees for maternity leave. This is shortsighted on the part of the business who is only looking to increase it's profits short term.

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Mon 02/16/15 11:24 PM

What about her complete failure as Secretary of State? Benghazi, anyone? The "reset" with Russia? Having held the position doesn't mean she was good at it. Same with being a Senator. How many other Senators were there before she arrived and are still there? Are they qualified because of how long they have been there? First Lady? Really? That counts as a qualification? Does that mean every wife is qualified to take her husband's job someday? Just like the current President is unqualified. Bush was Governor of Texas. Clinton was Governor of Arkansas. Bush was head of the CIA and a businessman. Reagan was Governor of California. Carter was Governor of Georgia. They all ran something. Other than implementation of the most inept foreign policy in my memory, what has Hillary run?


Just a few accomplishments of Hillary Clinton (But you can do a Google search yourself if you are interested in learning):
And she played a leading role in advocating the creation of the State Children's Health Insurance Program, which provides state support for children whose parents cannot provide them with health coverage. She promoted nationwide immunization against childhood illnesses. She also played a leading role in creation of the Adoption and Safe Families Act and the Foster Care Independence Act. She encouraged older women to seek a mammogram for early detection of breast cancer (which is covered by Medicare) and successfully sought to increase research funding for prostate cancer and childhood asthma at the NIH. She worked to investigate illnesses that were reportedly affecting Veterans of the Gulf War; now commonly known as Gulf War Syndrome. And she created an Office on Violence Against Women at the Department of Justice. She is also the first first lady to hold a post graduate degree, and she traveled to more countries than any other first lady had at that time.

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Mon 02/16/15 11:24 PM


So the people who actually create jobs are unqualified to make decisions about the economy because they make a profit? Tell you what. Go to your local coffee shop, fast food joint, store, whatever. Some "greedy" business owner employs those people. But watch the interactions. When the exchange of cash for product is made, who says "thank you?" Not the person who was exploited and got the raw end of the deal. Oh, wait! BOTH parties say it! Why? Because it was a mutually beneficial transaction. If capitalism is so horrible, why did the Soviet Union collapse?


Capitalism is not horrible. But Hillary and I believe that businesses need to be limited. For example if we leave it to businesses they mostly choose not to pay their employees for maternity leave. This is shortsighted on the part of the business who is only looking to increase it's profits short term.




noway

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Mon 02/16/15 11:34 PM



So the people who actually create jobs are unqualified to make decisions about the economy because they make a profit? Tell you what. Go to your local coffee shop, fast food joint, store, whatever. Some "greedy" business owner employs those people. But watch the interactions. When the exchange of cash for product is made, who says "thank you?" Not the person who was exploited and got the raw end of the deal. Oh, wait! BOTH parties say it! Why? Because it was a mutually beneficial transaction. If capitalism is so horrible, why did the Soviet Union collapse?


Capitalism is not horrible. But Hillary and I believe that businesses need to be limited. For example if we leave it to businesses they mostly choose not to pay their employees for maternity leave. This is shortsighted on the part of the business who is only looking to increase it's profits short term.




noway


I don't think I would vote for Hillary but she has some good views. I don't like her views on Isreal and Palestine and I really feel strongly on that issue. Palestine needs our support so they can stand up to Isreal in a non terrorist way.

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Mon 02/16/15 11:53 PM
Edited by MadDog1974 on Mon 02/16/15 11:53 PM
Support terrorists so they can stop being terrorists? Makes sense to me. And I'll just keep feeding that guy who has been crashing on my couch for the last 6 months so he will become self sufficient. slaphead

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Tue 02/17/15 12:00 AM

Support terrorists so they can stop being terrorists? Makes sense to me. And I'll just keep feeding that guy who has been crashing on my couch for the last 6 months so he will become self sufficient. slaphead


Yes, I believe that terrorists are created.

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Tue 02/17/15 12:05 AM
And being nicer will make them nicer. Right. Tell you what. You live in your little fantasy land and I'll be here in the real world. If the kid being bullied is nice to the bully, does the bullying stop? No. It gets worse. Punching the bully in the face is what works. Meanwhile, let Americans deal with American politics and we'll let you deal with yours. Deal?

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Tue 02/17/15 12:17 AM
I am American. And punching a bully can get you killed. If you're smart you will try to walk away. Now, if you are defending the defenseless and you have some weapons go for it. But in my opinion Palestinians Are defenseless and America is helping the bully.

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Tue 02/17/15 12:29 AM
Your profile indicates that you're in Turkey, and comments you've made elsewhere also indicate that you're Turkish. And if you're ok with accepting victimhood, that's your choice. I choose to stand up for myself because I refuse to be anyone's victim. I suppose you also believe Gitmo is part of why terrorists go into the terrorist line of work?

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Tue 02/17/15 12:33 AM

Your profile indicates that you're in Turkey, and comments you've made elsewhere also indicate that you're Turkish. And if you're ok with accepting victimhood, that's your choice. I choose to stand up for myself because I refuse to be anyone's victim. I suppose you also believe Gitmo is part of why terrorists go into the terrorist line of work?


I live in Turkey but I'm a citizen of the U.S. I think the situation is not black and white, maybe you should see the world so you can know another perspective.

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Tue 02/17/15 12:38 AM
I've seen the world. Those terrorists who want to kill you? I've met them face to face in their hometowns. Care to lecture any more about what I don't know?

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Tue 02/17/15 12:51 AM

I've seen the world. Those terrorists who want to kill you? I've met them face to face in their hometowns. Care to lecture any more about what I don't know?


I am only saying that I believe it would make sense to think that terrorists are created. In the same way you speak about a bully picking on a defenseless person, the victim can be driven to violence by any means possible. We are saying the same thing. I believe it is the bully who benefits most in naming the victim a terrorist. Should the terrorist/victim be stopped from lashing out at innocents? Yes. But the real problem is identifying the real bully and I think I've done that in the case of Israel and Palestine.
But, what do you think about the Israel and Palestine conflict?

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Tue 02/17/15 01:02 AM
Your analogy is flawed. We create terrorists like the victim creates the bully. I've tried to reason with those people. They don't understand reason. They understand violence. If you choose to bury your head in the sand, that's your choice. Fortunately for you, sheepdogs stand ready to defend the sheep from the wolves. Sadly, however, the sheep often can't distinguish between the wolf who wants to eat them and the sheepdog who will protect them. That's ok. That won't stop the sheepdog from doing his job and protecting the flock. Being a sheep is not inherently wrong. In fact, that's the nature of most people. That's good. That means the majority have neither the desire nor the capacity to harm each other. Rest easy, sheep. Despite your fear of the sheepdog, he will not harm you and he will fight off the wolves.

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Tue 02/17/15 01:19 AM
I'm trying to learn your view on Israel and Palestine?

I did get that you think the terrorists are the bullies, is that what you think about Palestine and Israel? You haven't said anything about it directly.

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Tue 02/17/15 01:44 AM
The Palestinians can attack and attack and attack, indiscriminately, even specifically targeting women and children, while meanwhile hiding in schools and hospitals, but let Israel launch one small, very limited counterattack, and there may be collateral damage, and they are the bad guys? And Israel notifies the Palestinians when and where the strike is going to be! That's like the schoolyard bully beating up the same kid every day until the kid finally gets fed up and tells the bully that he's going to punch him in the nose. The bully continues, so the kid delivers that punch and makes the bully's nose bleed. The bully then cries to the teacher that he got hit back. Hit first, you should expect to get hit back. Why is that such a hard concept to understand? And just because you live abroad doesn't mean you automatically understand this better than I do. I've been to the Middle East, so you living in Turkey doesn't impress me or give you any "perspective points" because you allow your opinions to determine your truth

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Tue 02/17/15 02:02 AM
It is the Israelis who invaded Palestine, just as Europeans invaded America where the Native Americans once lived, just as Europeans took blacks away from their homes in Africa. Are you starting to see a trend yet?

Why don't you educate yourself and open your mind? Maybe you will lose this argument, but think of all the future arguments you could be winning?
http://kamdarpost.com/an-inconvenient-truth-why-are-palestinians-so-angry/

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Tue 02/17/15 02:17 AM
Yes, the trend is you are a misandrist and a racist. If white men didn't exist, everyone would all be happy.

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Tue 02/17/15 03:10 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Tue 02/17/15 03:21 AM

It is the Israelis who invaded Palestine, just as Europeans invaded America where the Native Americans once lived, just as Europeans took blacks away from their homes in Africa. Are you starting to see a trend yet?

Why don't you educate yourself and open your mind? Maybe you will lose this argument, but think of all the future arguments you could be winning?
http://kamdarpost.com/an-inconvenient-truth-why-are-palestinians-so-angry/

BullMalarkey!
There never existed a State of Palestine!
Arafat invented them after '67!
BTW,you already have lost the Argument about Palestinians!
The Root of the name actually means INVADER!
The original Philistines were a Greek People a few millenia ago,and ruled,for a time,the Strip known as Gaza today!

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Tue 02/17/15 03:14 AM


So the people who actually create jobs are unqualified to make decisions about the economy because they make a profit? Tell you what. Go to your local coffee shop, fast food joint, store, whatever. Some "greedy" business owner employs those people. But watch the interactions. When the exchange of cash for product is made, who says "thank you?" Not the person who was exploited and got the raw end of the deal. Oh, wait! BOTH parties say it! Why? Because it was a mutually beneficial transaction. If capitalism is so horrible, why did the Soviet Union collapse?


Capitalism is not horrible. But Hillary and I believe that businesses need to be limited. For example if we leave it to businesses they mostly choose not to pay their employees for maternity leave. This is shortsighted on the part of the business who is only looking to increase it's profits short term.

You believe in Fascism/Corporatism,NOT Capitalism!
I always love those Statist Defenders of Capitalism!laugh

This is actually what Hillary,and you want!


Fascism should rightly be called Corporatism, as it is the merger of corporate and government power." Benito Mussolini

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Tue 02/17/15 03:38 AM

Yes, the trend is you are a misandrist and a racist. If white men didn't exist, everyone would all be happy.


I am white. I don't think it's about race as much as it is about power over others, since I'm not a racist I have the ability to see this.
As for men I think they have some explaining to do for messing up the world...again they are after power over others, like power over women. I'm not against men because I do believe the good ones can change things. A good man will realize the damage that men have done, just as whites can see what they have done...I am white remember?