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Topic: When was Christianity invented?
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Thu 02/26/15 10:21 AM
Massagetrade's comments are very true...

The Christianity of the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd, centuries is different from the 4th through to the 14th century, and then when Protestant Reformation starts onward... It's completely unrecognisable again, to the present.

Islam has had its change too... From the early 7th century to the 17th century it has remained almost without hindrance. Then, these Hadiths were somehow introduced to muddy the Muslim communities understanding of both the Quran and the Bible.

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Thu 02/26/15 10:23 AM
When "Christ" died. lol

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Thu 02/26/15 10:33 AM
More importantly, when Christ was yet still found resurrected and alive!

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Thu 02/26/15 10:37 AM

More importantly, when Christ was yet still found resurrected and alive!


True! the proof is in the NAME. lol

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Thu 02/26/15 10:56 AM


More importantly, when Christ was yet still found resurrected and alive!


True! the proof is in the NAME. lol


That works for me. I mean, why not? Taking the story of Jesus at face value, I would think that some event in Jesus life would mark the 'start'. Be it his birth, death, resurrection, or something else.

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Thu 02/26/15 11:01 AM
Edited by luvmeforlife on Thu 02/26/15 11:02 AM



More importantly, when Christ was yet still found resurrected and alive!


True! the proof is in the NAME. lol


That works for me. I mean, why not? Taking the story of Jesus at face value, I would think that some event in Jesus life would mark the 'start'. Be it his birth, death, resurrection, or something else.


well christianity is the belief in Christ right. So the real question is "Was he named Christ at birth or at death?"

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Thu 02/26/15 11:06 AM

Massagetrade's comments are very true...

The Christianity of the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd, centuries is different from the 4th through to the 14th century, and then when Protestant Reformation starts onward... It's completely unrecognisable again, to the present.

Islam has had its change too... From the early 7th century to the 17th century it has remained almost without hindrance. Then, these Hadiths were somehow introduced to muddy the Muslim communities understanding of both the Quran and the Bible.

you might be about eight/nine Centuries late about those Hadiths!laugh

Hadith (/ˈhædɪθ/[1] or /hɑːˈdiːθ/;[2] Arabic: حديث‎) in Islamic religious use is often translated as "prophetic traditions", meaning the corpus of the reports of the teachings, deeds and sayings of the Islamic prophet Muhammad. The hadith literature was compiled from oral reports that were in circulation in society around the time of their compilation long after the death of Muhammad. Bukhari's collection is considered the most reliable by many traditional religious scholars who are Sunnis. The Shi'as believe in an entirely separate body of hadith. While those Muslims who reject the authority of the Hadith[3] [4] cite numerous verses of the Quran, such as the following: "[Say], Then is it other than Allah I should seek as judge while it is He who has revealed to you the Book explained in detail?"[Quran 6:114].

The hadith also had a profound and controversial influence on moulding the commentaries (tafsir) on the Quran. The earliest commentary of the Quran by Muhammad ibn Jarir al-Tabari is mostly sourced from the hadith. The hadith was used in forming the basis of 'Shariah' Law. Much of early Islamic history available today is also based on the hadith and is challenged for lack of basis in primary source material and contradictions based on secondary material available.

Each hadith is based on two parts, a chain of narrators reporting the hadith (isnad), and the text itself (matn).[5][6] Hadiths are still regarded by traditional Islamic schools of jurisprudence as important tools for understanding the Quran and in matters of jurisprudence.[7] Hadith were evaluated and gathered into large collections during the 8th and 9th centuries. These works are referred to in matters of Islamic law and history to this day. The largest denominations of Islam, Sunni, Shiʻa, and Ibadi, rely upon different sets of hadith collections. Ahmadis generally rely upon Sunni Hadith collections. Clerics and jurists of all denominations classify individual hadith as sahih ("authentic"), hasan ("good") and da'if ("weak").[8] However, different traditions within each denomination, and different scholars within each tradition, may differ as to which hadith should be included in which category.

Today usage

The overwhelming majority of Muslims consider hadith to be essential supplements to, and clarifications of, the Quran, Islam's holy book, as well as for clarifying issues pertaining to Islamic jurisprudence. Ibn al-Salah, a hadith specialist, described the relationship between hadith and other aspect of the religion by saying: "It is the science most pervasive in respect to the other sciences in their various branches, in particular to jurisprudence being the most important of them."[29] "The intended meaning of 'other sciences' here are those pertaining to religion," explains Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani, "Quranic exegesis, hadith, and jurisprudence. The science of hadith became the most pervasive due to the need displayed by each of these three sciences. The need hadith has of its science is apparent. As for Quranic exegesis, then the preferred manner of explaining the speech of God is by means of what has been accepted as a statement of Muhammad. The one looking to this is in need of distinguishing the acceptable from the unacceptable. Regarding jurisprudence, then the jurist is in need of citing as an evidence the acceptable to the exception of the later, something only possible utilizing the science of hadith."[7]

WIKI

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadith
(Pay Attention to the External Links)

.............unless you are following some sort of Reform-Islam!bigsmile

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Thu 02/26/15 11:07 AM
Christ: Khristos, Greek for 'Anointed.'

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Thu 02/26/15 11:11 AM
I'm glade You mentioned 'might', Conrad.

Rest assured, there's probably a Hadith to bloody-well authenticate the age of the Hadiths. :laughing:

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Thu 02/26/15 07:45 PM




More importantly, when Christ was yet still found resurrected and alive!


True! the proof is in the NAME. lol


That works for me. I mean, why not? Taking the story of Jesus at face value, I would think that some event in Jesus life would mark the 'start'. Be it his birth, death, resurrection, or something else.


well christianity is the belief in Christ right. So the real question is "Was he named Christ at birth or at death?"


I think he was known to be the messiah even long before his birth...

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Thu 02/26/15 09:46 PM

I've tried searching online but couldn't find the answer. Also, when was Islam invented? Thanks
....key word...invented...lol....it's all about control...induce fear, doubt, and love of life...add a few dominate rulers,..a little written diaries..twist it to the better good for the rulers of man....wall ah...poof...religion..!....that's why I choose faith...forever and one day...flowerforyou

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Thu 02/26/15 11:57 PM
Edited by Pansytilly on Fri 02/27/15 12:02 AM


I've tried searching online but couldn't find the answer. Also, when was Islam invented? Thanks
....key word...invented...lol....it's all about control...induce fear, doubt, and love of life...add a few dominate rulers,..a little written diaries..twist it to the better good for the rulers of man....wall ah...poof...religion..!....that's why I choose faith...forever and one day...flowerforyou


I can agree with this ^^^.... Begs the question whether Islam or Christianity or any other religion / sect / denomination or philosophy was being referred to as a general belief or an organized system...

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