So really this topic should have been posted in "politics" and not "dating and relationships." You don't endorse revenge motives to be used domestically for lesser circumstances, such as my neighbor didn't return my hedge clippers or the lady at the grocery store snagged the parking spot for which I was waiting?

Estelle you need help.
I'm no shrink but I've seen enough of your posts about men to say IMHO that you have a problem. Big time.

I guess when people come up with something most people don't agree with they must be crazy, that's ok...I'm not crazy, and I know I have made some good points at times, maybe I'm not always right, but people calling me names is really weak in the mind...

bashing will only turns us off....men have fagile egoes when it comes to the women....the truth is its all about how he feels about himself when whe he is with you....if YOU felt sexy, attract, needed, important, and cared about by him....wouldn't you want to be with him ???? the results of where we ''are at'' is own belief system...

I think this topic is about relationships, so I posted it here. I'm pointing out that King Abdullah has balls not like most guys, and I wish these guys would take note. Like instead of causing trouble to women, what about fighting terrorists or someone who is actually a threat. But, you're asking me if guys should kill innocent people who pose no threat, where does that come from? You think ISIS is cool like your neighbors?

Groundhog day, is what i see here? Same topic, same bile being spouted about guys, only thing that's different, is the title of the thread? Get over yourself and get some help, as you're a really bitter woman, believe me!!

and you wonder why you went though 3 boyfriends and cannot find a "good one"... guys just aren't good enough for you

Estelle honestly, counselling might help. You seem bitter and twisted towards men. You may have had a bad experience but you can't go on thinking all men, or most men are the same, otherwise the pattern will go on and on.

not really her fault, she lives around muslim men, they treat women like cattle...

What I'm saying is that your connection of these items is spurious at best. Most men don't rule a nation or have an army at their disposal, so operating "with balls" would mean having to do so in circumstances that are within their reach - as in the examples I gave.

If you are dealing with topics of ISIS and war, then how can you say that we are discussing "dating and relationships." And my neighbors aren't that cool, their dog digs in my yard and I'm constantly pick up their trash out of the same. Should I retaliate in kind? Dump a pile of beer cans on their lawn? Would you consider that acting "manly?" I think not, it is paramount to acting like a child, and maybe what you're really looking for is someone suffering from a "Peter Pan Complex."

A real man knows that in all situations violence should be the last resort. A real man knows that all nations are entitled to conduct their own civil uprising - whether we agree with their culture or not, precisely because it isn't our culture and we really have no say.

Personally I feel it's high time that the people in the region stand up and take care of their own problems, especially since we created it by trying to force Americanism down their throats at the point of a sword. Because every real man should also know when to walk away.

Time to 'moo've away from there then i think?

As women we walk a fine line between wanting the "manly" take charge guy & the in touch with his emotions (& therefore ours), willing to be vulnerable guy. If a man is only one or the other - we get pretty tired of it pretty quickly.

The real problem comes from the chain of though that goes like this in our heads: I deserve a "do better" man & I'm not settling. So, we start rejecting or nexting guys who then see us as too much of a challenge or think we're playing games so they don't TRY to "do better" with us & we never get what we want...vicious circle that frustrates everyone. Not to mention knowing our own flaws & making decisions in a RS about "doing better" ourselves. There is a point at which you become so self confident & content that no one can measure up to your own standards if they are kept strictly.

You may have a valid point there. Our idea of how to treat women and the muslim attitude towards women are chalk and cheese.
I wonder if Estelle thinks this could have something to do with it.

Estelle i'm sure a lot of men get inspiration from you LOL

Estelle79, it appears to me that you are extrapolating your personal experiences with your ex-boyfriends into a blanket condemnation of most men.

that is about the most intelligent thing i have ever heard on this subject

dnewnew

It would seem that you have had some bad experiences. Maybe made some wrong choices in life

I doubt that you have ever been in a position where your bravery would be put to the test. but I know millions of men have.. many giving the ultimate sacrifice...

Your comment is a insult to all men.

The OP is undateable, simple as! She has a good chance of never being happy and will only have herself to blame if that is the case?

The real problem here is breast enhancer.. joke...peace...