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soloidarity is expressed in many ways,, not just sharing photos and media,,,,
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soloidarity is expressed in many ways,, not just sharing photos and media,,,, and absence speaks volumes..... |
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soloidarity is expressed in many ways,, not just sharing photos and media,,,, and absence speaks volumes..... not really,,lol |
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either way, kerry gave hugs... very impressive... obarry didn't give any hugs...
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not sure if that's true,, but probably none that you saw on camera,,, |
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either way, kerry gave hugs... very impressive... obarry didn't give any hugs... He did speak in French too, that shows a lot of solidarity.
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Edited by
Conrad_73
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Sat 01/17/15 09:52 AM
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either way, kerry gave hugs... very impressive... obarry didn't give any hugs... He did speak in French too, that shows a lot of solidarity.
you mean this sorry Farce? http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/kerry-brings-james-taylor-serenade-french-youve-got-friend_823854.html U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry visited Paris Friday in what was billed as a show of solidarity with the French people after terrorists attacked last week. The former Massachusetts senator brought fellow Bay Stater and singer-songwriter James Taylor to sing a slightly off-key rendition of "You've Got a Friend" to a Parisian audience.  
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Edited by
navygirl
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Sat 01/17/15 09:57 AM
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I think it was foolish to put any of the Heads of States out there. Its a big security risk and getting yourself killed just to prove a point is not the smartest move. JMO Cowering to terrorists barbarism is even less smart in my opinion... I agree cowering isn't smart but there is a thing as acceptable risk. Our world leaders also have been under strict security even before terrorism was a threat. Its not just the terrorists that we have to worry about as we have local fanatics. You point is taken...and respected, but he or our Secretary of State should have been there ...This administration has spent millions of tax payer dollars to beef up security and those world leaders you see marching in the front lines were photo shopped...They did not march, but they understood the need to be counted...Obama sucks... Well our Prime Minister also did not go to the demonstration and I commend him for doing it. I guess having to live with Terrorists threats in the 80s; I have a different perspective from those who have never had to deal with it on a personal basis. I recall climbing underneath vehicles checking for bombs, ensuring all vehicles were locked, checking baggage from anyone trying to come on to our base, and even dealing with the aftermath of a bomb going off at our base. I'm sure you have a different perspective, but that does not make yours anymore valid than mine or others who feel as I do....Once again, MY president failed to present a united front...Maybe, big maybe, if this was the first time he flipped off our allies, I would not be as disgusted with him as I am, but it is not the first time and likely won't be the last... I am not saying your opinion is not valid; I am just saying I see it from the perspective of being surrounded by terrorism; dealing with it face to face so to speak but its pointless trying to explain it to you so I will just drop the subject. Like MSHarmony says; Obama's presence wouldn't have made an impact on fighting Terror. The point of Obama attending the rally was NOT to make an impact on fighting terror  ...The point was solidarity, standing behind our allies, but trying to explain that to you is useless so I will just drop the subject....
Yeah; being military I don't have a fcking clue on standing behind my allies. 
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soloidarity is expressed in many ways,, not just sharing photos and media,,,, and absence speaks volumes..... I agree. Some high school pep rally was not needed to show solidarity. There are just damn lucky that the terrorists didn't try an attack on their little rally as thousands would have been killed. |
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not sure if that's true,, but probably none that you saw on camera,,, http://www.cbsnews.com/news/john-kerry-brings-paris-a-hug-and-james-taylor-after-france-terror-attacks/ |
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I think it was foolish to put any of the Heads of States out there. Its a big security risk and getting yourself killed just to prove a point is not the smartest move. JMO Cowering to terrorists barbarism is even less smart in my opinion... I agree cowering isn't smart but there is a thing as acceptable risk. Our world leaders also have been under strict security even before terrorism was a threat. Its not just the terrorists that we have to worry about as we have local fanatics. You point is taken...and respected, but he or our Secretary of State should have been there ...This administration has spent millions of tax payer dollars to beef up security and those world leaders you see marching in the front lines were photo shopped...They did not march, but they understood the need to be counted...Obama sucks... Well our Prime Minister also did not go to the demonstration and I commend him for doing it. I guess having to live with Terrorists threats in the 80s; I have a different perspective from those who have never had to deal with it on a personal basis. I recall climbing underneath vehicles checking for bombs, ensuring all vehicles were locked, checking baggage from anyone trying to come on to our base, and even dealing with the aftermath of a bomb going off at our base. I'm sure you have a different perspective, but that does not make yours anymore valid than mine or others who feel as I do....Once again, MY president failed to present a united front...Maybe, big maybe, if this was the first time he flipped off our allies, I would not be as disgusted with him as I am, but it is not the first time and likely won't be the last... I am not saying your opinion is not valid; I am just saying I see it from the perspective of being surrounded by terrorism; dealing with it face to face so to speak but its pointless trying to explain it to you so I will just drop the subject. Like MSHarmony says; Obama's presence wouldn't have made an impact on fighting Terror. The point of Obama attending the rally was NOT to make an impact on fighting terror ...The point was solidarity, standing behind our allies, but trying to explain that to you is useless so I will just drop the subject....
Oh incidentally; there is group called NATO and another called the UN. You might want to look these up and see that these groups already represent standing behind our allies; at least that is what my NATO medal represents. How about you Leigh? Have any medals from the UN or NATO? Did you ever serve even as a civilian? |
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I think it was foolish to put any of the Heads of States out there. Its a big security risk and getting yourself killed just to prove a point is not the smartest move. JMO Cowering to terrorists barbarism is even less smart in my opinion... I agree cowering isn't smart but there is a thing as acceptable risk. Our world leaders also have been under strict security even before terrorism was a threat. Its not just the terrorists that we have to worry about as we have local fanatics. You point is taken...and respected, but he or our Secretary of State should have been there ...This administration has spent millions of tax payer dollars to beef up security and those world leaders you see marching in the front lines were photo shopped...They did not march, but they understood the need to be counted...Obama sucks... Well our Prime Minister also did not go to the demonstration and I commend him for doing it. I guess having to live with Terrorists threats in the 80s; I have a different perspective from those who have never had to deal with it on a personal basis. I recall climbing underneath vehicles checking for bombs, ensuring all vehicles were locked, checking baggage from anyone trying to come on to our base, and even dealing with the aftermath of a bomb going off at our base. I'm sure you have a different perspective, but that does not make yours anymore valid than mine or others who feel as I do....Once again, MY president failed to present a united front...Maybe, big maybe, if this was the first time he flipped off our allies, I would not be as disgusted with him as I am, but it is not the first time and likely won't be the last... I am not saying your opinion is not valid; I am just saying I see it from the perspective of being surrounded by terrorism; dealing with it face to face so to speak but its pointless trying to explain it to you so I will just drop the subject. Like MSHarmony says; Obama's presence wouldn't have made an impact on fighting Terror. The point of Obama attending the rally was NOT to make an impact on fighting terror ...The point was solidarity, standing behind our allies, but trying to explain that to you is useless so I will just drop the subject....
Oh incidentally; there is group called NATO and another called the UN. You might want to look these up and see that these groups already represent standing behind our allies; at least that is what my NATO medal represents. How about you Leigh? Have any medals from the UN or NATO? Did you ever serve even as a civilian? Why do you ask?...Do I have to have a medal or have served, even as a civilian  to post to this thread or disagree with you?....With all due respect, it's none of your business and it's ....Didn't the military teach you anything?... 
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Edited by
navygirl
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I think it was foolish to put any of the Heads of States out there. Its a big security risk and getting yourself killed just to prove a point is not the smartest move. JMO Cowering to terrorists barbarism is even less smart in my opinion... I agree cowering isn't smart but there is a thing as acceptable risk. Our world leaders also have been under strict security even before terrorism was a threat. Its not just the terrorists that we have to worry about as we have local fanatics. You point is taken...and respected, but he or our Secretary of State should have been there ...This administration has spent millions of tax payer dollars to beef up security and those world leaders you see marching in the front lines were photo shopped...They did not march, but they understood the need to be counted...Obama sucks... Well our Prime Minister also did not go to the demonstration and I commend him for doing it. I guess having to live with Terrorists threats in the 80s; I have a different perspective from those who have never had to deal with it on a personal basis. I recall climbing underneath vehicles checking for bombs, ensuring all vehicles were locked, checking baggage from anyone trying to come on to our base, and even dealing with the aftermath of a bomb going off at our base. I'm sure you have a different perspective, but that does not make yours anymore valid than mine or others who feel as I do....Once again, MY president failed to present a united front...Maybe, big maybe, if this was the first time he flipped off our allies, I would not be as disgusted with him as I am, but it is not the first time and likely won't be the last... I am not saying your opinion is not valid; I am just saying I see it from the perspective of being surrounded by terrorism; dealing with it face to face so to speak but its pointless trying to explain it to you so I will just drop the subject. Like MSHarmony says; Obama's presence wouldn't have made an impact on fighting Terror. The point of Obama attending the rally was NOT to make an impact on fighting terror ...The point was solidarity, standing behind our allies, but trying to explain that to you is useless so I will just drop the subject....
Oh incidentally; there is group called NATO and another called the UN. You might want to look these up and see that these groups already represent standing behind our allies; at least that is what my NATO medal represents. How about you Leigh? Have any medals from the UN or NATO? Did you ever serve even as a civilian? Why do you ask?...Do I have to have a medal or have served, even as a civilian to post to this thread or disagree with you?....With all due respect, it's none of your business and it's ....Didn't the military teach you anything?...
You are right its none of my business and its not about disagreeing so please don't put words in my mouth as this is now the second time you have done this. I just asked to to see if you actually understood that NATO and the UN are the ways we support our allies which is another form of solidarity. Common sense would suggest that we support our allies. We need not attend a rally that could have resulted in many more deaths had it got out of hand or had the terrorists decided to attack. However; its your president and you are certainly entitled to think of him in any way you want. I don't keep up with American politics but it sounds like he isn't very popular these days. |
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Ladies,Ladies,take it easy!
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Edited by
navygirl
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Sat 01/17/15 02:13 PM
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Ladies,Ladies,take it easy!
No worries; this is my last post and its not worth arguing about. I am just going to deactivate for a while as I have better things to do.
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I think it was foolish to put any of the Heads of States out there. Its a big security risk and getting yourself killed just to prove a point is not the smartest move. JMO Cowering to terrorists barbarism is even less smart in my opinion... I agree cowering isn't smart but there is a thing as acceptable risk. Our world leaders also have been under strict security even before terrorism was a threat. Its not just the terrorists that we have to worry about as we have local fanatics. You point is taken...and respected, but he or our Secretary of State should have been there ...This administration has spent millions of tax payer dollars to beef up security and those world leaders you see marching in the front lines were photo shopped...They did not march, but they understood the need to be counted...Obama sucks... Well our Prime Minister also did not go to the demonstration and I commend him for doing it. I guess having to live with Terrorists threats in the 80s; I have a different perspective from those who have never had to deal with it on a personal basis. I recall climbing underneath vehicles checking for bombs, ensuring all vehicles were locked, checking baggage from anyone trying to come on to our base, and even dealing with the aftermath of a bomb going off at our base. I'm sure you have a different perspective, but that does not make yours anymore valid than mine or others who feel as I do....Once again, MY president failed to present a united front...Maybe, big maybe, if this was the first time he flipped off our allies, I would not be as disgusted with him as I am, but it is not the first time and likely won't be the last... I am not saying your opinion is not valid; I am just saying I see it from the perspective of being surrounded by terrorism; dealing with it face to face so to speak but its pointless trying to explain it to you so I will just drop the subject. Like MSHarmony says; Obama's presence wouldn't have made an impact on fighting Terror. The point of Obama attending the rally was NOT to make an impact on fighting terror ...The point was solidarity, standing behind our allies, but trying to explain that to you is useless so I will just drop the subject....
Oh incidentally; there is group called NATO and another called the UN. You might want to look these up and see that these groups already represent standing behind our allies; at least that is what my NATO medal represents. How about you Leigh? Have any medals from the UN or NATO? Did you ever serve even as a civilian? Why do you ask?...Do I have to have a medal or have served, even as a civilian to post to this thread or disagree with you?....With all due respect, it's none of your business and it's ....Didn't the military teach you anything?...
You are right its none of my business and its not about disagreeing so please don't put words in my mouth as this is now the second time you have done this. I just asked to to see if you actually understood that NATO and the UN are the ways we support our allies which is another form of solidarity. Common sense would suggest that we support our allies. We need not attend a rally that could have resulted in many more deaths had it got out of hand or had the terrorists decided to attack. However; its your president and you are certainly entitled to think of him in any way you want. I don't keep up with American politics but it sounds like he isn't very popular these days. depends upon who you speak to ethnics and the poor and democrats seem to like him just fine,,, |
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I think it was foolish to put any of the Heads of States out there. Its a big security risk and getting yourself killed just to prove a point is not the smartest move. JMO Cowering to terrorists barbarism is even less smart in my opinion... I agree cowering isn't smart but there is a thing as acceptable risk. Our world leaders also have been under strict security even before terrorism was a threat. Its not just the terrorists that we have to worry about as we have local fanatics. You point is taken...and respected, but he or our Secretary of State should have been there ...This administration has spent millions of tax payer dollars to beef up security and those world leaders you see marching in the front lines were photo shopped...They did not march, but they understood the need to be counted...Obama sucks... Well our Prime Minister also did not go to the demonstration and I commend him for doing it. I guess having to live with Terrorists threats in the 80s; I have a different perspective from those who have never had to deal with it on a personal basis. I recall climbing underneath vehicles checking for bombs, ensuring all vehicles were locked, checking baggage from anyone trying to come on to our base, and even dealing with the aftermath of a bomb going off at our base. I'm sure you have a different perspective, but that does not make yours anymore valid than mine or others who feel as I do....Once again, MY president failed to present a united front...Maybe, big maybe, if this was the first time he flipped off our allies, I would not be as disgusted with him as I am, but it is not the first time and likely won't be the last... I am not saying your opinion is not valid; I am just saying I see it from the perspective of being surrounded by terrorism; dealing with it face to face so to speak but its pointless trying to explain it to you so I will just drop the subject. Like MSHarmony says; Obama's presence wouldn't have made an impact on fighting Terror. The point of Obama attending the rally was NOT to make an impact on fighting terror ...The point was solidarity, standing behind our allies, but trying to explain that to you is useless so I will just drop the subject....
Oh incidentally; there is group called NATO and another called the UN. You might want to look these up and see that these groups already represent standing behind our allies; at least that is what my NATO medal represents. How about you Leigh? Have any medals from the UN or NATO? Did you ever serve even as a civilian? Why do you ask?...Do I have to have a medal or have served, even as a civilian to post to this thread or disagree with you?....With all due respect, it's none of your business and it's ....Didn't the military teach you anything?...
You are right its none of my business and its not about disagreeing so please don't put words in my mouth as this is now the second time you have done this. I just asked to to see if you actually understood that NATO and the UN are the ways we support our allies which is another form of solidarity. Common sense would suggest that we support our allies. We need not attend a rally that could have resulted in many more deaths had it got out of hand or had the terrorists decided to attack. However; its your president and you are certainly entitled to think of him in any way you want. I don't keep up with American politics but it sounds like he isn't very popular these days. depends upon who you speak to ethnics and the poor and democrats seem to like him just fine,,, yea, he pays all of their bills for them... how do you think democrats stay afloat and earn votes? |
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I think it was foolish to put any of the Heads of States out there. Its a big security risk and getting yourself killed just to prove a point is not the smartest move. JMO Cowering to terrorists barbarism is even less smart in my opinion... I agree cowering isn't smart but there is a thing as acceptable risk. Our world leaders also have been under strict security even before terrorism was a threat. Its not just the terrorists that we have to worry about as we have local fanatics. You point is taken...and respected, but he or our Secretary of State should have been there ...This administration has spent millions of tax payer dollars to beef up security and those world leaders you see marching in the front lines were photo shopped...They did not march, but they understood the need to be counted...Obama sucks... Well our Prime Minister also did not go to the demonstration and I commend him for doing it. I guess having to live with Terrorists threats in the 80s; I have a different perspective from those who have never had to deal with it on a personal basis. I recall climbing underneath vehicles checking for bombs, ensuring all vehicles were locked, checking baggage from anyone trying to come on to our base, and even dealing with the aftermath of a bomb going off at our base. I'm sure you have a different perspective, but that does not make yours anymore valid than mine or others who feel as I do....Once again, MY president failed to present a united front...Maybe, big maybe, if this was the first time he flipped off our allies, I would not be as disgusted with him as I am, but it is not the first time and likely won't be the last... I am not saying your opinion is not valid; I am just saying I see it from the perspective of being surrounded by terrorism; dealing with it face to face so to speak but its pointless trying to explain it to you so I will just drop the subject. Like MSHarmony says; Obama's presence wouldn't have made an impact on fighting Terror. The point of Obama attending the rally was NOT to make an impact on fighting terror ...The point was solidarity, standing behind our allies, but trying to explain that to you is useless so I will just drop the subject....
Oh incidentally; there is group called NATO and another called the UN. You might want to look these up and see that these groups already represent standing behind our allies; at least that is what my NATO medal represents. How about you Leigh? Have any medals from the UN or NATO? Did you ever serve even as a civilian? Why do you ask?...Do I have to have a medal or have served, even as a civilian to post to this thread or disagree with you?....With all due respect, it's none of your business and it's ....Didn't the military teach you anything?...
You are right its none of my business and its not about disagreeing so please don't put words in my mouth as this is now the second time you have done this. I just asked to to see if you actually understood that NATO and the UN are the ways we support our allies which is another form of solidarity. Common sense would suggest that we support our allies. We need not attend a rally that could have resulted in many more deaths had it got out of hand or had the terrorists decided to attack. However; its your president and you are certainly entitled to think of him in any way you want. I don't keep up with American politics but it sounds like he isn't very popular these days. depends upon who you speak to ethnics and the poor and democrats seem to like him just fine,,, yea, he pays all of their bills for them... how do you think democrats stay afloat and earn votes? really? OBama pays the bills of all democrats and impoverished and minorities? do tell....lol |
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do tell....lol let me ask you this what's the biggest difference between repub and dems? |
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do tell....lol let me ask you this what's the biggest difference between repub and dems? repblicans policies seem to forget anyone but the rich democratic policies seem to try to include everyone republican spokespersons seem to spew bigotry and bougeise attitudes democratic spokespersons seem to promote equality and inclusive attitudes,, and republicans seem to get the most government support,,lol ,,but other than that,, republicans at large (the whole population of repubs not just their reps) are just as diverse as democrats at large |
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