Topic: Should Obama have marched in Paris?
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Fri 01/16/15 10:55 AM

navygirl's photo
Fri 01/16/15 11:11 AM
Edited by navygirl on Fri 01/16/15 11:21 AM


I think it was foolish to put any of the Heads of States out there. Its a big security risk and getting yourself killed just to prove a point is not the smartest move. JMO


Cowering to terrorists barbarism is even less smart in my opinion...


I agree cowering isn't smart but there is a thing as acceptable risk. Our world leaders also have been under strict security even before terrorism was a threat. Its not just the terrorists that we have to worry about as we have local fanatics. Even here is Canada; we still go about our business and as person that wears uniform; we have to wear civilian jackets to cover our uniform shirts to keep us safe.

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Fri 01/16/15 11:13 AM



kerry did send hugs to the Parisians...whoa why is guy still working?



He's blowing the bosses horn?....

Not in the Bill and Monica way I hope, thats gross LMAO


Possibly...smokin

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Fri 01/16/15 11:17 AM



I think it was foolish to put any of the Heads of States out there. Its a big security risk and getting yourself killed just to prove a point is not the smartest move. JMO


Cowering to terrorists barbarism is even less smart in my opinion...


I agree cowering isn't smart but there is a thing as acceptable risk. Our world leaders also have been under strict security even before terrorism was a threat. Its not just the terrorists that we have to worry about as we have local fanatics.


You point is taken...and respected, but he or our Secretary of State should have been there ...This administration has spent millions of tax payer dollars to beef up security and those world leaders you see marching in the front lines were photo shopped...They did not march, but they understood the need to be counted...Obama sucks...

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Fri 01/16/15 11:31 AM




I think it was foolish to put any of the Heads of States out there. Its a big security risk and getting yourself killed just to prove a point is not the smartest move. JMO


Cowering to terrorists barbarism is even less smart in my opinion...


I agree cowering isn't smart but there is a thing as acceptable risk. Our world leaders also have been under strict security even before terrorism was a threat. Its not just the terrorists that we have to worry about as we have local fanatics.


You point is taken...and respected, but he or our Secretary of State should have been there ...This administration has spent millions of tax payer dollars to beef up security and those world leaders you see marching in the front lines were photo shopped...They did not march, but they understood the need to be counted...Obama sucks...


Well our Prime Minister also did not go to the demonstration and I commend him for doing it. I guess having to live with Terrorists threats in the 80s; I have a different perspective from those who have never had to deal with it on a personal basis. I recall climbing underneath vehicles checking for bombs, ensuring all vehicles were locked, checking baggage from anyone trying to come on to our base, and even dealing with the aftermath of a bomb going off at our base.

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Fri 01/16/15 11:41 AM





I think it was foolish to put any of the Heads of States out there. Its a big security risk and getting yourself killed just to prove a point is not the smartest move. JMO


Cowering to terrorists barbarism is even less smart in my opinion...


I agree cowering isn't smart but there is a thing as acceptable risk. Our world leaders also have been under strict security even before terrorism was a threat. Its not just the terrorists that we have to worry about as we have local fanatics.


You point is taken...and respected, but he or our Secretary of State should have been there ...This administration has spent millions of tax payer dollars to beef up security and those world leaders you see marching in the front lines were photo shopped...They did not march, but they understood the need to be counted...Obama sucks...


Well our Prime Minister also did not go to the demonstration and I commend him for doing it. I guess having to live with Terrorists threats in the 80s; I have a different perspective from those who have never had to deal with it on a personal basis. I recall climbing underneath vehicles checking for bombs, ensuring all vehicles were locked, checking baggage from anyone trying to come on to our base, and even dealing with the aftermath of a bomb going off at our base.


I'm sure you have a different perspective, but that does not make yours anymore valid than mine or others who feel as I do....Once again, MY president failed to present a united front...Maybe, big maybe, if this was the first time he flipped off our allies, I would not be as disgusted with him as I am, but it is not the first time and likely won't be the last...

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Fri 01/16/15 12:22 PM






I think it was foolish to put any of the Heads of States out there. Its a big security risk and getting yourself killed just to prove a point is not the smartest move. JMO


Cowering to terrorists barbarism is even less smart in my opinion...


I agree cowering isn't smart but there is a thing as acceptable risk. Our world leaders also have been under strict security even before terrorism was a threat. Its not just the terrorists that we have to worry about as we have local fanatics.


You point is taken...and respected, but he or our Secretary of State should have been there ...This administration has spent millions of tax payer dollars to beef up security and those world leaders you see marching in the front lines were photo shopped...They did not march, but they understood the need to be counted...Obama sucks...


Well our Prime Minister also did not go to the demonstration and I commend him for doing it. I guess having to live with Terrorists threats in the 80s; I have a different perspective from those who have never had to deal with it on a personal basis. I recall climbing underneath vehicles checking for bombs, ensuring all vehicles were locked, checking baggage from anyone trying to come on to our base, and even dealing with the aftermath of a bomb going off at our base.


I'm sure you have a different perspective, but that does not make yours anymore valid than mine or others who feel as I do....Once again, MY president failed to present a united front...Maybe, big maybe, if this was the first time he flipped off our allies, I would not be as disgusted with him as I am, but it is not the first time and likely won't be the last...


oberry has failed in a lot of things, this is just the most recent on that long list...

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Fri 01/16/15 12:35 PM







I think it was foolish to put any of the Heads of States out there. Its a big security risk and getting yourself killed just to prove a point is not the smartest move. JMO


Cowering to terrorists barbarism is even less smart in my opinion...


I agree cowering isn't smart but there is a thing as acceptable risk. Our world leaders also have been under strict security even before terrorism was a threat. Its not just the terrorists that we have to worry about as we have local fanatics.


You point is taken...and respected, but he or our Secretary of State should have been there ...This administration has spent millions of tax payer dollars to beef up security and those world leaders you see marching in the front lines were photo shopped...They did not march, but they understood the need to be counted...Obama sucks...


Well our Prime Minister also did not go to the demonstration and I commend him for doing it. I guess having to live with Terrorists threats in the 80s; I have a different perspective from those who have never had to deal with it on a personal basis. I recall climbing underneath vehicles checking for bombs, ensuring all vehicles were locked, checking baggage from anyone trying to come on to our base, and even dealing with the aftermath of a bomb going off at our base.


I'm sure you have a different perspective, but that does not make yours anymore valid than mine or others who feel as I do....Once again, MY president failed to present a united front...Maybe, big maybe, if this was the first time he flipped off our allies, I would not be as disgusted with him as I am, but it is not the first time and likely won't be the last...


oberry has failed in a lot of things, this is just the most recent on that long list...


Sad truth this^^...

waving

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Fri 01/16/15 12:55 PM




Sadly, there are traitors on both sides of the aisle and John McShame is probably the biggest of the the 2 between Kerry and McShame.

John Mccain Exposed By Vietnam Vets And Pow's

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hr37eE0nO8


mightymoe's photo
Fri 01/16/15 01:03 PM





Sadly, there are traitors on both sides of the aisle and John McShame is probably the biggest of the the 2 between Kerry and McShame.

John Mccain Exposed By Vietnam Vets And Pow's

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hr37eE0nO8




yea, i'm not a mclame fan myself, but my anger is directed towards the dimocrats right now, so mclame will have to wait a few...drinker

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Fri 01/16/15 05:48 PM
Edited by msharmony on Fri 01/16/15 05:50 PM

I've been hearing a lot of complaints because president Obama didn't attend unity march in Paris like other world leaders. I disagree. The president of the United States is not like other heads of state. It would've have been a security nightmare and a terrorists dream come true if he matched down the streets of Paris. President Obama shows his unity with France by leading the war against Islamic jihadist in Syria and Iraq.



this is absolutely true, its easy to share a spotlight, its harder to actually wORK,,,

IF I were wrongly attacked, it would be more important to me who was in the trenches beside me fighting, not who shared the photo ops,,,



they have admitted someone should have been there, unfortunately image is the God of modern world


but I don't feel his presence or lack of is really significant to the goal of fighting 'terror'

mightymoe's photo
Fri 01/16/15 05:51 PM


I've been hearing a lot of complaints because president Obama didn't attend unity march in Paris like other world leaders. I disagree. The president of the United States is not like other heads of state. It would've have been a security nightmare and a terrorists dream come true if he matched down the streets of Paris. President Obama shows his unity with France by leading the war against Islamic jihadist in Syria and Iraq.



this is absolutely true, its easy to share a spotlight, its harder to actually wORK,,,

they have admitted someone should have been there, unfortunately image is the God of modern world


but I don't feel his presence or lack of is really significant to the goal of fighting 'terror'
i'll agree with most of this, but it's hard to believe that obarry was "working"... the playoffs was on, so it's hard to jump up and go to paris during a cowboys game...

msharmony's photo
Fri 01/16/15 05:58 PM



I've been hearing a lot of complaints because president Obama didn't attend unity march in Paris like other world leaders. I disagree. The president of the United States is not like other heads of state. It would've have been a security nightmare and a terrorists dream come true if he matched down the streets of Paris. President Obama shows his unity with France by leading the war against Islamic jihadist in Syria and Iraq.



this is absolutely true, its easy to share a spotlight, its harder to actually wORK,,,

they have admitted someone should have been there, unfortunately image is the God of modern world


but I don't feel his presence or lack of is really significant to the goal of fighting 'terror'
i'll agree with most of this, but it's hard to believe that obarry was "working"... the playoffs was on, so it's hard to jump up and go to paris during a cowboys game...


French leaders have said something quite different, ie

that he has been working with them since the start

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Fri 01/16/15 05:58 PM




:laughing: :laughing:

mightymoe's photo
Fri 01/16/15 06:12 PM




I've been hearing a lot of complaints because president Obama didn't attend unity march in Paris like other world leaders. I disagree. The president of the United States is not like other heads of state. It would've have been a security nightmare and a terrorists dream come true if he matched down the streets of Paris. President Obama shows his unity with France by leading the war against Islamic jihadist in Syria and Iraq.



this is absolutely true, its easy to share a spotlight, its harder to actually wORK,,,

they have admitted someone should have been there, unfortunately image is the God of modern world


but I don't feel his presence or lack of is really significant to the goal of fighting 'terror'
i'll agree with most of this, but it's hard to believe that obarry was "working"... the playoffs was on, so it's hard to jump up and go to paris during a cowboys game...


French leaders have said something quite different, ie

that he has been working with them since the start


they don't have football in france, duh...whoa tongue2

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Fri 01/16/15 07:04 PM

they don't have football in france, duh...whoa tongue2


Yes they do. This is football to the vast majority of the world's nations.



What you meant to say is that American-style football isn't played in France.

mightymoe's photo
Fri 01/16/15 07:07 PM


they don't have football in france, duh...whoa tongue2


Yes they do. This is football to the vast majority of the world's nations.



What you meant to say is that American-style football isn't played in France.


we have football, they have futball... and they speak french anyway, so it would be some other word...

Dodo_David's photo
Fri 01/16/15 07:23 PM



they don't have football in france, duh...whoa tongue2


Yes they do. This is football to the vast majority of the world's nations.



What you meant to say is that American-style football isn't played in France.


we have football, they have futball... and they speak french anyway, so it would be some other word...


FIFA stands for "F�d�ration Internationale de Football Association".

The French word for "football" is "football".

The game played by the French is spelled "football" in the U.K.


Anyway, back to the original topic.

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Fri 01/16/15 11:57 PM
Edited by navygirl on Sat 01/17/15 12:37 AM






I think it was foolish to put any of the Heads of States out there. Its a big security risk and getting yourself killed just to prove a point is not the smartest move. JMO


Cowering to terrorists barbarism is even less smart in my opinion...


I agree cowering isn't smart but there is a thing as acceptable risk. Our world leaders also have been under strict security even before terrorism was a threat. Its not just the terrorists that we have to worry about as we have local fanatics.


You point is taken...and respected, but he or our Secretary of State should have been there ...This administration has spent millions of tax payer dollars to beef up security and those world leaders you see marching in the front lines were photo shopped...They did not march, but they understood the need to be counted...Obama sucks...


Well our Prime Minister also did not go to the demonstration and I commend him for doing it. I guess having to live with Terrorists threats in the 80s; I have a different perspective from those who have never had to deal with it on a personal basis. I recall climbing underneath vehicles checking for bombs, ensuring all vehicles were locked, checking baggage from anyone trying to come on to our base, and even dealing with the aftermath of a bomb going off at our base.


I'm sure you have a different perspective, but that does not make yours anymore valid than mine or others who feel as I do....Once again, MY president failed to present a united front...Maybe, big maybe, if this was the first time he flipped off our allies, I would not be as disgusted with him as I am, but it is not the first time and likely won't be the last...


I am not saying your opinion is not valid; I am just saying I see it from the perspective of being surrounded by terrorism; dealing with it face to face so to speak but its pointless trying to explain it to you so I will just drop the subject. Like MSHarmony says; Obama's presence wouldn't have made an impact on fighting Terror.

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Sat 01/17/15 02:09 AM







I think it was foolish to put any of the Heads of States out there. Its a big security risk and getting yourself killed just to prove a point is not the smartest move. JMO


Cowering to terrorists barbarism is even less smart in my opinion...


I agree cowering isn't smart but there is a thing as acceptable risk. Our world leaders also have been under strict security even before terrorism was a threat. Its not just the terrorists that we have to worry about as we have local fanatics.


You point is taken...and respected, but he or our Secretary of State should have been there ...This administration has spent millions of tax payer dollars to beef up security and those world leaders you see marching in the front lines were photo shopped...They did not march, but they understood the need to be counted...Obama sucks...


Well our Prime Minister also did not go to the demonstration and I commend him for doing it. I guess having to live with Terrorists threats in the 80s; I have a different perspective from those who have never had to deal with it on a personal basis. I recall climbing underneath vehicles checking for bombs, ensuring all vehicles were locked, checking baggage from anyone trying to come on to our base, and even dealing with the aftermath of a bomb going off at our base.


I'm sure you have a different perspective, but that does not make yours anymore valid than mine or others who feel as I do....Once again, MY president failed to present a united front...Maybe, big maybe, if this was the first time he flipped off our allies, I would not be as disgusted with him as I am, but it is not the first time and likely won't be the last...


I am not saying your opinion is not valid; I am just saying I see it from the perspective of being surrounded by terrorism; dealing with it face to face so to speak but its pointless trying to explain it to you so I will just drop the subject. Like MSHarmony says; Obama's presence wouldn't have made an impact on fighting Terror.


The point of Obama attending the rally was NOT to make an impact on fighting terrorslaphead ...The point was solidarity, standing behind our allies, but trying to explain that to you is useless so I will just drop the subject....