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Topic: Your Expertise Needed!
texasrose9's photo
Mon 10/01/07 08:49 PM
Okay, I've been out with a friend...looking for a replacement motherboard for my computer. No luck tonight, but still looking for something that will work. The old one was a Foxconn C51GU01. It was in a Gateway computer. Surfed the web tonight and came across a forum where I discovered this particular motherboard is a piece of crap. There are LOTS of people with the exact same problem, and the board lasted a few months to about 17 months for most... All of these same folks had GAteway computers. I definitely don't want to use the same one, but not sure what I can use to replace it, and this is where I need YOUR help..... I will provide the specs and I would appreciate recommendations from those of you who know about these things. Dimensions of board: 10.4 x 10.5 AMD 64 x 2 3800+ Socket 939 pkg
Current memory support DDr 333/400 dual channel Max memory 4MB. What I would like: I now have 1MB ram I want 2MB Ram. I have read that the AMD 64 x 2 can fit into an AM2 socket, is that true? or advisable? I don't mind buying a motherboard/processor combo if the price is right. Does anyone have any suggestions on a replacement motherboard? I am a novice and not sure what to do. Thanks!

shutterbug63's photo
Mon 10/01/07 09:03 PM
I don't know myself but I do know at least 2 people who can help you with that. I can try to get you an email address for one of them.

texasrose9's photo
Mon 10/01/07 09:09 PM
Thank you. That would be nice.

Jtevans's photo
Mon 10/01/07 09:46 PM
first of all,what's the highest amount you're will to spend for one?

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Tue 10/02/07 05:46 AM
Texasrose9

Being a "retail" computer, you would be far better off building a new rig from scratch. Replacing OEM motherboards can be an exhausting experience. OEM mobo's don't really match up with anything else. Foxcom makes all kids of motherboards, but when they make it for Gateway (or any OEM) they are still rather proprietary.

LivingByBeats's photo
Tue 10/02/07 11:07 AM
just replace it, it isn't any money to buy a new one now, however if you're going to have to do this, i would be willing to bet that your motherboard is still under warranty. most people immediately think "oh oh oh!!! buy new board" except that the mother board has a different warranty than the actuat full oem unit itself does.

all computers are only made by three manufacturers world wide, including laptops.
period.

so go back to where you purchased the initial machine (must have receipt or you are hooped) and check with the techs there (do not talk to salesman) - that would be the first step :)

Wizzie1967's photo
Tue 10/02/07 04:12 PM
GAteway components....laugh laugh laugh
Seriously where and when did you get that??
We dont sell this crap anywhere over here now...
Ok, so it's that a tower or a desktop???
How many IDE???
Processor type??
Amount of RAM??
How many banks??
The best thing to do in my opinion is buy it in Europe via the net

texasrose9's photo
Tue 10/02/07 08:05 PM
I located a MOBO on newegg that has the same specs, but is a bit smaller than the original, and it is made by Biostar. It has a different audio chip, Does anyone know anything about the AM2 socket?

texasrose9's photo
Tue 10/02/07 08:10 PM
I appreciate everyone's comments. It does look like I will be almost building one from scratch.....not by myself of course! LOl...THAT would be a Kodak moment for sure.... Is it possible for me to salvage all the other working stuff like the DVd and CD burners, 9 in one memory card readers, etc?

adj4u's photo
Thu 10/04/07 05:51 AM
it should be

just check the specs on the motherboard

for connections

and also power supply will need enough connections

in some instances you can install some things in an external
usb case if need be

if hard drive is ok and if yer up to a stern discussion with microsoft you may even be able to use it intact

good luck


netuserlla's photo
Sat 10/06/07 09:07 PM
Most likely all of your drives will be compatible. You Should be able to find a good replacement mobo + cpu on tigerdirect. Just make sure that your ram type is the same. That will save you some extra bucks.

Txpoet's photo
Wed 10/10/07 12:28 AM
My recommendation is to find a local computer shop and take your unit in to them. There are other variables, but they will be able to help you and advise you.

markecephus's photo
Wed 10/10/07 06:14 PM

My recommendation is to trash it, I had a gateway, the board (i think) you have, came as a motherboard for gateways pentium 2 processor. The hard drive is small, only 10 gig. when i bought mine , i spent about three thousand on it. At the time it was a good system, but it utilized the windows ME os. The program is embeded throughout the system. It's cumbersome and outdated. It will also not support a larger hard drive. I tried. Now, what you can do..if you can find the board reasonably priced, and you have access to a windows 98 os disk...you can make it work. But you will right zeros to an already tired and very small hard drive, create a partition and cross your fingers. I wouldn't spend a dime on it, other than to tape one to it and throw it in the trash. If you primarily use your pc for the internet, or simple tasks...i would recommend a dell, a good desktop will cost you less than four hundred...now if you need more, then a dell with pro software, and multiple usb ports...this will be more like 1200...i just dont see sinking money into a dinasaur...jmo.

texasrose9's photo
Sat 10/13/07 10:59 PM
The computer I am trying to fix is only 18 months old with a 250 GB hard drive. I and a friend slaved it up to my daughter's computer so I could transfer my files to an external hard drive. I did go out and buy another computer, but will fix this one for my daughter. It's way better than the one she currently has.

netuserlla's photo
Wed 10/24/07 06:30 PM
Oh sorry that I didn't answer the socket question before, but NO, NO.
The AMD socket 939 is not compatible with the AM2.
AMD processors RULE though. Too many people are ignorant of that fact. People just buy what the commercial tells them to buy.
Intel has already realized that they will have to rebuild their processor from scratch, so they can include built in memory like AMD.
The only way that intel has been able to keep up with AMD, is to increase FSB and opt for ram with more 'hertz'.
That's alot of extra work just to meet AMDs speed.
If they would have just done it right the first time.
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***Sorry. I tend to ramble when it comes to computers.

rpwolff's photo
Thu 10/25/07 09:42 PM
OK..... I'm new to this so I don't know how this works. If I get an email when my wuestion is answered or what. But, here's my question:
This is the first system I've built with sata hdds. do I have to put them in order, like the biggest hd on sata 1, second biggest on sata 2. I do have an ide hd in there also I don't know why it's only recognizing 1 sata hdd. My two dvd drives are sata; they work. Outhough, there's only an audio input for 1 drive. Also, is a sata cable a sata cable? I have a sata cable that came with the last computer I built. I think we were in sata 1.0 back then. Now we're in sata 3.0. Is a sata 1.0 cable as fast as a sata 3.0 cable? I think the different versions of sata only apply to the hdd.

rpwolff's photo
Thu 10/25/07 10:05 PM
first of all, it was mentioned way back that windows me didn't recognize bigger hds, that's because that version of windows was a joke. Microsoft didn't pass a better disk format until they came out with windows xp sp1. Up till then windows could only recognize up to an 80gig drive.

If you check all the specs on that mobo, you should be able to salvage most of your stuff. The last two systems I've built have used biostar mobos, they are pretty good. As for the wuestion of who's better, intel or amd; you can overclock amd, which means that in the long run they will be less reliable. But, if you don't overclock it; it should be as good as intel.

netuserlla's photo
Sat 10/27/07 05:03 AM
I don't know how your HDD config is right now, but if your running raid, then the other drives will not show up. Oh and you have that backwards, intel is striving to be like AMD. The new processor that AMD has out blows the doors off of ANY Intel or AMD processor to date. I'll put it this way, It's so fast, that they don't even show bench marks on their advertisment. They just show a computer operating flawlessly with no glitches.
Maybe you have heard of it, the Amd PHENOM processor line.
Linux and AMD rule.
Peace.

rpwolff's photo
Sun 10/28/07 09:34 PM
Ya know; you people that think you know everything are really annoying to those of us that do......... haha
just kidding...........
Thanks for the info. You're also right about AMD, I think. I'm just prejuduce because I've never built an amd system.
My hdd situation is driving me nuts though. I have 5 sata inputs on my mobo; 1 250gig sata hd, 1 320gig sata hd, and 1 500gig sata hd, and 1 80gig ide hd. The 250gig sata is pluged into sata 1, dvd drives are plugged into sata 2 and 3 inputs, and I had the other two sata hd plugged in but it didn't find them. I'm going nuts. I am going to make one more attemp before I just eccept what I have.


Timorek's photo
Mon 10/29/07 10:51 AM
My opinion -

I looked on the web for reviews and comparisons between comparable price/performance AMD and Intel chips...

Guess what - AMD won and was cheaper to boot. In nearly all kinds of categories.

I am a big AMD fan.

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