You know nothing about me and its obvious Im too complicated for your little mind to comprehend, so STFU!

Folks - everyone needs to calm down on this thread. Personal attacks are not permitted on the forums. Continued violation of this rule will result in your being banned from the site.

Thanks for your cooperation.

The Phoenix Police Department was the ones who arrested her not "airport security"

sounds like the city would be liable then

that even makes it worse

govt security

imagine that

and why is the city police at the airport

All death is disorderly

well you would thing so

heh yeah I'm odd like that

i like things a little odd

the plot thickens


PHOENIX, Arizona (CNN) -- Noah Gotbaum told a Phoenix airport operator that his wife was distraught after being bumped from a flight and that her situation was a "medical emergency," not a case of "some lout who's just drank too much."


http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/10/05/airport.death/index.html?iref=mpstoryview

we will hear more I am sure...regardless...tragic & unnecessary

Maybe I've been a little too excited here and I should ease up. I'm sure everyone in this thread is just fine and I don't intend to say anyone here is short on compassion for others. Sometimes I could watch my words a little more closely, as I'm sure others can too.

This topic does trouble me though. I definitely have the feeling that security/police were out of line and that the poor woman should be alive today. The episode makes me think of people I have known in the past who were not capable of managing their emotions on a temporary basis, due to improper medication prescribed by psychiatrists, by simple alcohol abuse or some combination of those.

Besides that I have also known people who had extreme cases of bipolar disease with some other overlaying mental issues, who have at times been completely out of control, but then the majority of their lives were just sweet and kind as can be. Some of these people have been in and out of recovery or mental care facilities many times, sometimes for years.

Two people I know like that work from time to time at my company. They don't work full time, permanently, because they simply do not have the capacity to be stable that way. They can work for some time and then they just lose it and go on walkabout for a time, sometimes homeless, wandering the streets and sleeping in bushes with the ants and mosquitoes, carrying nothing but a Salvation army blanked and a paper sack with whatever insane accoutrements they deem necessary at the moment.

A few weeks in a mental facility and some stable medication and they come around and join society again. Eventually they wander back to the shop and ask about work, which we try to give them, and a little dignity to go along with it. Nice people, they enrich the lives of those around them, but you just have to know they are going to twist off sometimes.

To think of one of these, bullied and crammed into a room with handcuffs and no supervision would make me quite angry. To think that in a condition of mental distress they would be able to make good choices, like keeping handcuffs from getting caught around their necks would be folly. Its not funny, its serious, and if authorities don't have some serious training for dealing with these sorts of people, they need it.

philosopher

good post

good post philosopher....

I have a personal stake in discussions like this since I have
a daughter who suffers from schizophrenia....I could easily
see her in a similar situation....with similar results...

my personal nightmare...

Hay Davinci,

It turns out that one of The Cops was trying to RAPE her in the Cell, while she was chained to the cement bench...

The Cop killed her with a very contraversial Choak Hold...

Though it may NEVER be proven in a court of Their Law...

You can read all abot it over on Jeff Rense...