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Edited by
uche9aa
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Sun 10/12/14 02:06 AM
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Its very disheartening & amazing,yet trending on how many couples are cheating on each other after they have made a public vow to stick & be faithful to their partner in the presence of everyone present@the solemnization of marriage/wedding ceremony.Many people are no longer ashamed to cheat on their spouses,infact,to some its like a thing to be proud of when breaking the marital vow.In my holy book i believe in,its written therein that,its better not to make a vow than to make it & not fulfilling it.While discussing about it with someone,he said maybe those involved in cheating ain't aware that they are breaking any vow,which makes them not better than a betrayer.I think @ this junction,we need to examine the vow made by the couple to each other on their wedding day and see if its different from making a vow.....To the groom...the officiating minister(either in church or court)asks...do you(groom's names)promise to take this woman(bride's names)as your legally & only wife,to love & care for her in health & sickness,in wealth & poverty,for better & for worse,& also to FORSAKE other women,till death do you part? The man answers....yes,i do!.To the bride...the officiating minister(either in church or court)asks...do you(bride's names)take this man(groom's names)as your legal & ONLY HUSBAND to love & care,in health & sickness,wealth & poverty,for better & for worse,till death do you part? The woman answers....yes,i do. If this is not a vow,i wonder what it is.Its high time people start taking their marriages serious.Everybody knows him or herself very well,if you know you have problem keeping to your marriage vow,then,pls remain single.Its better than making a vow & not keeping it.I dont know the party thats more involved,be it husband or wife,but pls retrace your steps.Apart from the fact that cheating on one's spouse is unhealthy in every aspect one may look at it,its also full of regrets at the end of it all.The myriad of divorcees on dating sites attest to the agony of consequences of cheating and other vices married people engage in.Why risk carrying the stigma that goes with that title, "a divorcee" because of cheating on your spouse?
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Edited by
Conrad_73
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Sun 10/12/14 02:43 AM
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what STIGMA?
 So,you think a Couple ought to stay together,no matter what,regardless of the Fact they might be making each others life a pure Hell,just to adhere to some foolish Injunction from some Preacher,who will greatly profit from their Misery! Nope,don't give me that Foolishness that God said so! PS:Put some Paragraphs in your post! |
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Truth hurt, Conrad?
I say that because your response is incredibly defensive. Uche never said a couple should stay together no matter what - of course there are going to be exceptions. The point is to take vows seriously that you made of your own volition - no one put a gun to your head to make those vows. You should work incredibly hard to keep them. Uche never said "God said so" - a little sensitive about that too, are we? Carrying around some adolescent angst you haven't quite dealt with yet? I'm curious how you thing preachers profit greatly from the misery of couples who are struggling. Most marriage counseling in churches is done at no charge. PS: Did I put enough paragraph divisions in my post or did some other completely irrelevant thing I've done get your panties all twisted up? |
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Nice first posting rickuptain.
Agree partially with Uchea, if you know upfront you won't or can't remain faithful, don't get married or involved. Unless both agree to have an open relationship, but then it isn't cheating. Thing is, you don't always know upfront. I think most ppl truly think and intend to stay together and not stray. So you may very well be sincere when you make those vows. I do not agree with divorcee stigma, but I guess there still can be a stigma in some countries. There was stigma here up till the mid / end 70s, there isn't anymore. |
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I think good points were made on both sides. It has always ( and will always) be a hotly debated subject. But I'm a little confused Rick.
Your profile states that you are married and looking for a woman for a intimate relationship? |
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the other thing that throws up a little bit of a red flag to me is with Unch. His words are definitely spirited and uplifting to those who follow that thought pattern.
He stated that he is not looking for a relationship "in the worldly sense" but is looking for a helpmate to help out in the ministry. A female helpmate. which could lead to other good things. Unch's profile is very detailed.. very well written. The only two areas that are not so defined are Marital status and children.. both left as no answer. Now I'm not saying that anything is out of line Unch, but clearly you can see where confusion can be had when you post on a subject in such a spirited pointed way, but fail to answer two key questions that would kind of affect the message that you are relaying. just my take on it. |
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Edited by
Conrad_73
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Sun 10/12/14 05:26 AM
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Truth hurt, Conrad? I say that because your response is incredibly defensive. Uche never said a couple should stay together no matter what - of course there are going to be exceptions. The point is to take vows seriously that you made of your own volition - no one put a gun to your head to make those vows. You should work incredibly hard to keep them. Uche never said "God said so" - a little sensitive about that too, are we? Carrying around some adolescent angst you haven't quite dealt with yet? I'm curious how you thing preachers profit greatly from the misery of couples who are struggling. Most marriage counseling in churches is done at no charge. PS: Did I put enough paragraph divisions in my post or did some other completely irrelevant thing I've done get your panties all twisted up? Who said anything about Monetary Profit of the Preacher? Besides,Nice ad Hominem by a Noob! Emulating Doctor Phil I suppose! 
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Truth hurt, Conrad? I say that because your response is incredibly defensive. Uche never said a couple should stay together no matter what - of course there are going to be exceptions. The point is to take vows seriously that you made of your own volition - no one put a gun to your head to make those vows. You should work incredibly hard to keep them. Uche never said "God said so" - a little sensitive about that too, are we? Carrying around some adolescent angst you haven't quite dealt with yet? I'm curious how you thing preachers profit greatly from the misery of couples who are struggling. Most marriage counseling in churches is done at no charge. PS: Did I put enough paragraph divisions in my post or did some other completely irrelevant thing I've done get your panties all twisted up? Besides,I have seen quite a few Rants by OP,so I have a pretty good Idea of his Attitude in general,so spare me that,Truth Hurts-Bit! Simply doesn't apply!
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The myriad of divorcees on dating sites attest to the agony of consequences of cheating and other vices married people engage in.Why risk carrying the stigma that goes with that title, "a divorcee" because of cheating on your spouse? Oh. So, only divorced women are on dating sites? Not a single divorced man is here, huh? And all the divorced women are in that current state because they cheated on their husbands? Not a single divorced man here cheated...every single one of 'em was the cheatee, NOT the cheater? Got it. Those dammed wimmenz. 
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devildog is very observant!
also, why is it that these threads about vows lately have to be associated with a religious ceremony? |
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...Uche never said "God said so"... Ummmm, yeah...he kinda did. I've removed the extra verbiage, since you missed it the first time around: ...In my holy book i believe in,its written therein that... You're welcome.  As devildog pointed out, you're married and looking for an intimate encounter? All the while jumping on the OP's bandwagon of an original post that started out saying EVERYbody should take their vows seriously, but concluding that it's only the women who cheat and cause divorces? *Interesting* selective and tunnel vision at work, there.  |
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Edited by
funkyfranky
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Sun 10/12/14 08:44 AM
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Truth hurt, Conrad? I say that because your response is incredibly defensive. Uche never said a couple should stay together no matter what - of course there are going to be exceptions. The point is to take vows seriously that you made of your own volition - no one put a gun to your head to make those vows. You should work incredibly hard to keep them. Uche never said "God said so" - a little sensitive about that too, are we? Carrying around some adolescent angst you haven't quite dealt with yet? I'm curious how you thing preachers profit greatly from the misery of couples who are struggling. Most marriage counseling in churches is done at no charge. PS: Did I put enough paragraph divisions in my post or did some other completely irrelevant thing I've done get your panties all twisted up? Let he without sin cast the first stone. Isn't that what you bible bashers preach 
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Dobie Gillis, is that you?
The word "divorcee", might carry a stigma in your mind. But, the term, "divorcee", hasn't really carried a universal stigma, since the 1950s - very early 1960s. . ... And, for every divorced woman, there is a divorced man. Scandalous wimmins, ain't the only ones to file divorce. Men file too. |
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Its very disheartening & amazing,yet trending on how many couples are cheating on each other after they have made a public vow to stick & be faithful to their partner in the presence of everyone present@the solemnization of marriage/wedding ceremony.Many people are no longer ashamed to cheat on their spouses,infact,to some its like a thing to be proud of when breaking the marital vow.In my holy book i believe in,its written therein that,its better not to make a vow than to make it & not fulfilling it.While discussing about it with someone,he said maybe those involved in cheating ain't aware that they are breaking any vow,which makes them not better than a betrayer.I think @ this junction,we need to examine the vow made by the couple to each other on their wedding day and see if its different from making a vow.....To the groom...the officiating minister(either in church or court)asks...do you(groom's names)promise to take this woman(bride's names)as your legally & only wife,to love & care for her in health & sickness,in wealth & poverty,for better & for worse,& also to FORSAKE other women,till death do you part? The man answers....yes,i do!.To the bride...the officiating minister(either in church or court)asks...do you(bride's names)take this man(groom's names)as your legal & ONLY HUSBAND to love & care,in health & sickness,wealth & poverty,for better & for worse,till death do you part? The woman answers....yes,i do. If this is not a vow,i wonder what it is.Its high time people start taking their marriages serious.Everybody knows him or herself very well,if you know you have problem keeping to your marriage vow,then,pls remain single.Its better than making a vow & not keeping it.I dont know the party thats more involved,be it husband or wife,but pls retrace your steps.Apart from the fact that cheating on one's spouse is unhealthy in every aspect one may look at it,its also full of regrets at the end of it all.The myriad of divorcees on dating sites attest to the agony of consequences of cheating and other vices married people engage in.Why risk carrying the stigma that goes with that title, "a divorcee" because of cheating on your spouse?   its nice to know that some men think like this. if everybody did there most likely would be half the divorce.
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Dobie Gillis, is that you? The word "divorcee", might carry a stigma in your mind. But, the term, "divorcee", hasn't really carried a universal stigma, since the 1950s - very early 1960s. . ... And, for every divorced woman, there is a divorced man. Scandalous wimmins, ain't the only ones to file divorce. Men file too. |
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Dobie Gillis, is that you? The word "divorcee", might carry a stigma in your mind. But, the term, "divorcee", hasn't really carried a universal stigma, since the 1950s - very early 1960s. . ... And, for every divorced woman, there is a divorced man. Scandalous wimmins, ain't the only ones to file divorce. Men file too. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Many_Loves_of_Dobie_Gillis  Dobie Gillis (Dwayne Hickman, left), Maynard G. Krebs (Bob Denver, right) and one of Dobie's "many loves", Yvette LeBlanc (Danielle De Metz), in a still from the Dobie Gillis episode "Parlez-Vous English", originally aired December 27, 1960. Dobie Gillis,the other Guy is Maynard G.Krebs,also known as Gilligan! |
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the one with the beard is cute but I never saw that show here in the uk I will watch it though on net. im not sure what the connection is though?
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devildog123: "I think good points were made on both sides. It has always ( and will always) be a hotly debated subject. But I'm a little confused Rick. Your profile states that you are married and looking for a woman for a intimate relationship? the other thing that throws up a little bit of a red flag to me is with Unch. His words are definitely spirited and uplifting to those who follow that thought pattern. He stated that he is not looking for a relationship "in the worldly sense" but is looking for a helpmate to help out in the ministry. A female helpmate. which could lead to other good things. Unch's profile is very detailed.. very well written. The only two areas that are not so defined are Marital status and children.. both left as no answer. Now I'm not saying that anything is out of line Unch, but clearly you can see where confusion can be had when you post on a subject in such a spirited pointed way, but fail to answer two key questions that would kind of affect the message that you are relaying. just my take on it." 
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the one with the beard is cute but I never saw that show here in the uk I will watch it though on net. im not sure what the connection is though? The connection, is the era. |
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Edited by
no1phD
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Sun 10/12/14 10:56 AM
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Hmm... I don't know of too many people... that get married knowing! they are going to break their vows.. I mean you're in it to win it right...but things change...
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