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Topic: Candidate Getting Death Threats Of Mexican Flag Flap
Lpdon's photo
Tue 09/30/14 11:02 AM




So, freedom of speech for thee (flying the U.S. flag), but no freedom of speech for me (flying the Mexican flag)?


That wouldn't be freedom of speech, that would be freedom of expression. If they like their country so god damn much they should go back there. Hell, they are probably illegal's anyway.


Many immigrants to the US are defensive about their identity because culture values are important to them...This is as it should be Don...In the United States we have immigration laws, one of which is a requirement to learn English...The purpose of this law is to help insure a safe and successful transition to their new country...The US not only welcomes immigrants, we encourage immigration...Census Reports tell us there are over 40 million immigrants living here and 337 languages being spoken...What this means is standardization is necessary, but what it also means is America is about diversity...English is the national language, however no official language exists at Federal level...Twenty-eight out of fifty states have established English as their official language and Hawaii has established English and Hawaiian as theirs...For employment opportunities and safety, education and requirements of daily living it is necessary for immigrants to learn English, but the language they choose to speak at home and in public is entirely their choice and should be respected....


Good post. I think the problem identified is the fact that many Spanish speaking immigrants (pretty much all illegal) don't bother to learn English because their community is so large, they don't have to!
Instead of adapting to our culture, they simply bring their language and culture with them which poses communication problems for society.


Yea, well part of that culture is pooping in the water supplies. Why do you think you cant drink fresh water in Mexico.

Lpdon's photo
Tue 09/30/14 11:05 AM

its rude to feel like people engaged in PRIVATE conversation have some obligation to make sure a third party can understand them


:thumbsup:

I am not paranoid enough to need to understand what complete strangers are saying to each other in a public setting.


It's not paranoid, its a respect issue.

msharmony's photo
Tue 09/30/14 05:59 PM


its rude to feel like people engaged in PRIVATE conversation have some obligation to make sure a third party can understand them


:thumbsup:

I am not paranoid enough to need to understand what complete strangers are saying to each other in a public setting.


It's not paranoid, its a respect issue.


disrespectful to eavesdrop

in a and b conversations, people need to learn to C themselves out, and not feel entitled to be included,,,

msharmony's photo
Tue 09/30/14 06:02 PM






as usual, there were some details omitted.
in the interview she forgot to mention the family in question also has the American flag in their yard. she forgot to mention that while she was approaching this family on their own property, questioning their freedom of speech, she also told them at least 4 times to leave the country.

this woman is the one who was bullying a family on their own property.

she recorded herself in an act of disrespect, discrimination and harassment. she posted her video on the internet in an effort to either gain attention or support for her ignorant ideas. it happens that it was her own actions that backfired and landed her in a world of trouble.





If they are illegal I'd tell them to leave also. It's not like I haven't before or when I'm in a store or at a restaurant and you hear them speaking another language (which is god damn rude), I usually stop and remind them where we are at and what language we speak here.


Really? So you go around asking for a valid Green Card when you hear others speaking in different languages and if they cannot produce one then you have the right to tell them which language they must speak, although our own constitution does not require them to do so? Or maybe you determine their legality in being here as what they look like? Which is it LPDon? Do you have credentials proving you have the authority to tell others to leave this country or are you self appointed? How do you determine whether someone is "illegal" to reside in the U.S.?

As for rudeness, it is my opinion that cursing is rude also but that doesn't give me the right to tell others not to do so in public or in private. If I don't like certain aspects of what I consider "rude", I can solve that problem by just walking away from the conversation which I consider rude!


Did I say I would go around asking for green cards? No, I said if I know they are Illegal I would tell them to get the hell out. Learn how to read. I don't care if I have the authority or not. I have the right under the Constitution of the United States of America to speak my mind when and where I want and yes I have the MORAL authority because I am not a god damn criminal like they are. ILLEGAL IS ILLEGAL.

I have the right to say whatever the hell I want. If I am walking in the store I don't want hear that gibberish. It is down right F'ing rude, plain and simple. If I were to move to another country I would adapt to their culture, not expect them to adapt to mine. This Liberal PC mentality has got to go.


that's very sad, truly

if wyou just 'walk in a reastaurant' , by the way, how the 'hell' do you know the background of anyone in there? how do you know if they aren't just visiting and not very fluent yet in English, or if they are in the process of learning English and still speak their native tongue to each other

its rude to feel like people engaged in PRIVATE conversation have some obligation to make sure a third party can understand them,,,

d that in a land of 'freedom' anyone should worry about a verbal assault for not assimilating to American language / culture in their private time or on their private property,,,

I wonder, if someone that has stated a belief that striking others for not 'respecting' the flag,, were to be verbally assaulting someone while approaching them,,,, if the intentionally imposed fear would be justification for that person to be shot

nothing I would ever wish on anyone, there are ways to express differences and times to do so,, but bullying is not cute,,,and in this FREE country can be deadly,,,


What you call verbal assault I call freedom of speech. It's not bullying, it's standing up for my beliefs.


when you try to force people who are minding their own business (Especially on their own property) to do and say what you want them to

its bullying,

and if you do it using loud, intimidating, or vulgar language, its verbal assault

Dodo_David's photo
Tue 09/30/14 07:27 PM


its rude to feel like people engaged in PRIVATE conversation have some obligation to make sure a third party can understand them


:thumbsup:

I am not paranoid enough to need to understand what complete strangers are saying to each other in a public setting.


It's not paranoid, its a respect issue.


I respect the privacy of the private conversations of others, even when they are in public areas.


I respect the freedom of speech of others, including their freedom to speak to each other in any language that they choose.

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