Topic: Tragedy!! Airforce now allow airmen to omit 'so help me God'
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Thu 09/18/14 09:43 AM

Sure.When you reject God you have inadvertently invited the devil.Like or not,thats the hidden truth


Say what??? slaphead

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Thu 09/18/14 10:14 AM
Pharisaic thinking isn't pretty. indifferent

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Thu 09/18/14 10:23 AM

Pharisaic thinking isn't pretty. indifferent
Neither double agent unbelieving-believer

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Thu 09/18/14 10:31 AM
Edited by Dodo_David on Thu 09/18/14 10:39 AM


Pharisaic thinking isn't pretty. indifferent
Neither double agent unbelieving-believer


The ancient Pharisees were notorious for vain public displays of piety.

That is why I mentioned Pharisaic thinking, because the OP of this thread assumes that a vain public display of piety is a must for people who don't believe in God's existence.

Side Note: Pharisaic thinking doesn't imply that one is a Pharisee.
It merely indicates a flaw in one's thinking.

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Thu 09/18/14 11:52 AM
Good. It shouldn't be required.

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Thu 09/18/14 12:36 PM


Pharisaic thinking isn't pretty. indifferent
Neither double agent unbelieving-believer


wanna expand on that?:laughing: rofl

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Thu 09/18/14 01:52 PM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Thu 09/18/14 02:20 PM

"so help me God" has always been an "option" in the oath according to law and 1st amendment rights, but some have been penalized for not using it in the past.

It's a simple matter of who's applying the rules......

They say our basic unalienable rights are endowed by our creator.....

So if you don't believe in god does that mean you have less rights or is that just govt/congress's plan.... do away with god and religion and the Constitutional/unalienable rights problem is solved!

I don't believe in god, or religion.....bad medicine (look at the reasons "given" for war the bankers hide behind since Roman times).....I'm a sciences guy, but I would never take/vote away the right of others to worship or believe as works for them..... even that god was an ancient alien!

Hey, why not? :angel:

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Thu 09/18/14 09:28 PM
let them practice on the dope cartels.... oh... thats right they get their marching orders from the same demons...

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Fri 09/19/14 04:56 AM
Godless society;Anarchy looming.First it was stopping prayers said in schools and public places.Then their entertainment industry made a push to censor "God",Jesus etc on screen;and now this...Hmm....If someone tells me the great conspiracy is a farce,and that the US isn't linked up with the illuminati or freemasons in anyway,or that the desire to rule the world is beyond political considerations,then,that person can as well make me believe that Obama isn't the president of USA

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Fri 09/19/14 06:40 AM

Godless society;Anarchy looming.First it was stopping prayers said in schools and public places.Then their entertainment industry made a push to censor "God",Jesus etc on screen;and now this...Hmm....If someone tells me the great conspiracy is a farce,and that the US isn't linked up with the illuminati or freemasons in anyway,or that the desire to rule the world is beyond political considerations,then,that person can as well make me believe that Obama isn't the president of USA

rofl rofl rofl slaphead
Problem is that you're trying to talk about something you haven't a Clue of!
Try get your own House in order,before haranguing about the USA!


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Fri 09/19/14 09:20 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Fri 09/19/14 09:21 AM

Godless society;Anarchy looming.First it was stopping prayers said in schools and public places.Then their entertainment industry made a push to censor "God",Jesus etc on screen;and now this...Hmm....If someone tells me the great conspiracy is a farce,and that the US isn't linked up with the illuminati or freemasons in anyway,or that the desire to rule the world is beyond political considerations,then,that person can as well make me believe that Obama isn't the president of USA


Glasses like that and you still can't see the BIG PICTURE noway laugh

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Fri 09/19/14 09:22 AM


Godless society;Anarchy looming.First it was stopping prayers said in schools and public places.Then their entertainment industry made a push to censor "God",Jesus etc on screen;and now this...Hmm....If someone tells me the great conspiracy is a farce,and that the US isn't linked up with the illuminati or freemasons in anyway,or that the desire to rule the world is beyond political considerations,then,that person can as well make me believe that Obama isn't the president of USA


Glasses like that and you still can't see the BIG PICTURE noway laugh
laugh :laughing:

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Fri 09/19/14 11:21 AM


Godless society;Anarchy looming.First it was stopping prayers said in schools and public places.Then their entertainment industry made a push to censor "God",Jesus etc on screen;and now this...Hmm....If someone tells me the great conspiracy is a farce,and that the US isn't linked up with the illuminati or freemasons in anyway,or that the desire to rule the world is beyond political considerations,then,that person can as well make me believe that Obama isn't the president of USA


Glasses like that and you still can't see the BIG PICTURE noway laugh
BIG PICTURE?

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Fri 09/19/14 01:56 PM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Fri 09/19/14 02:19 PM



Godless society;Anarchy looming.First it was stopping prayers said in schools and public places.Then their entertainment industry made a push to censor "God",Jesus etc on screen;and now this...Hmm....If someone tells me the great conspiracy is a farce,and that the US isn't linked up with the illuminati or freemasons in anyway,or that the desire to rule the world is beyond political considerations,then,that person can as well make me believe that Obama isn't the president of USA


Glasses like that and you still can't see the BIG PICTURE noway laugh
BIG PICTURE?


While you're worrying about cadets saying "so help me god...." congress has passed Obozo's war resolution, at taxpayer expense of course, the EU has corrupted the Scottish vote for independence, and so many other things of much greater importance have been set upon the world.

But you go ahead and worry about god, religion, and the oaths of a few individuals if it helps you sleep better at night.

So it seems senators McShame and Graham get their wish to arm Al Qaeda/ISIS and attack Syria after all......

About the Scottish vote..... (Which amazingly didn't pass?!)

Police Investigating Alleged Vote Fraud In Glasgow

"We've had a number of suggestions over the course of the day that people have turned up at the polling station to vote and they appear to have voted already," said Edgar. "So what's happening tonight is we know which boxes those votes went into and we know the numbers on the votes, so the police have asked us to identify those votes, to take them away, keep them for evidence and hand them to them."

Edgar said that fraud could have taken place because voters are not required to present identification at polling places in UK elections.

"Somebody turned up to vote, they gave their name, the presiding officer went to cross off their name on their list of voters to give them a ballot paper and found that their name had already been crossed off and a ballot paper already issued to somebody who apparently had the same name," Edgar said.

"��We contacted police straight away. The police asked us if we could recover the ballot papers, which we can because we know which box they're in and we know the number on the ballot paper."

Edgar stated that the ballots will be traced and secured before handing them to police. Each ballot contains an individual number, so staff members will be searching through the ballots to find the ten in question. If found, they will be separated from the hundreds of thousands of other ballots.

A spokesman for Police in Scotland said the agency "��takes the safety and security of the independence referendum extremely seriously and is working with partner agencies including local authorities and the chief counting officer to ensure the integrity of the ballot".



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Fri 09/19/14 02:25 PM




Godless society;Anarchy looming.First it was stopping prayers said in schools and public places.Then their entertainment industry made a push to censor "God",Jesus etc on screen;and now this...Hmm....If someone tells me the great conspiracy is a farce,and that the US isn't linked up with the illuminati or freemasons in anyway,or that the desire to rule the world is beyond political considerations,then,that person can as well make me believe that Obama isn't the president of USA


Glasses like that and you still can't see the BIG PICTURE noway laugh
BIG PICTURE?


While you're worrying about cadets saying "so help me god...." congress has passed Obozo's war resolution, at taxpayer expense of course, the EU has corrupted the Scottish vote for independence, and so many other things of much greater importance have been set upon the world.

But you go ahead and worry about god, religion, and the oaths of a few individuals if it helps you sleep better at night.

So it seems senators McShame and Graham get their wish to arm Al Qaeda/ISIS and attack Syria after all......

About the Scottish vote..... (Which amazingly didn't pass?!)

Police Investigating Alleged Vote Fraud In Glasgow

"We've had a number of suggestions over the course of the day that people have turned up at the polling station to vote and they appear to have voted already," said Edgar. "So what's happening tonight is we know which boxes those votes went into and we know the numbers on the votes, so the police have asked us to identify those votes, to take them away, keep them for evidence and hand them to them."

Edgar said that fraud could have taken place because voters are not required to present identification at polling places in UK elections.

"Somebody turned up to vote, they gave their name, the presiding officer went to cross off their name on their list of voters to give them a ballot paper and found that their name had already been crossed off and a ballot paper already issued to somebody who apparently had the same name," Edgar said.

"��We contacted police straight away. The police asked us if we could recover the ballot papers, which we can because we know which box they're in and we know the number on the ballot paper."

Edgar stated that the ballots will be traced and secured before handing them to police. Each ballot contains an individual number, so staff members will be searching through the ballots to find the ten in question. If found, they will be separated from the hundreds of thousands of other ballots.

A spokesman for Police in Scotland said the agency "��takes the safety and security of the independence referendum extremely seriously and is working with partner agencies including local authorities and the chief counting officer to ensure the integrity of the ballot".





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Fri 09/19/14 03:10 PM
If the person taking the oath has no belief in that thing in which it's being sworn upon


where's the veracity OF the oath?

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Fri 09/19/14 03:18 PM

If the person taking the oath has no belief in that thing in which it's being sworn upon


where's the veracity OF the oath?


That's my point, too.
It is just a vain public display of false piety for an atheist or agnostic to say "So help me God."

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Mon 09/22/14 02:14 PM


If the person taking the oath has no belief in that thing in which it's being sworn upon


where's the veracity OF the oath?


That's my point, too.
It is just a vain public display of false piety for an atheist or agnostic to say "So help me God."
yea,but its nonetheless a gradual but steady descent to abyss and systematic obliteration of God from the consciousness of Americans;in addition to other ealier anti-God policies of the government of US

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Mon 09/22/14 02:27 PM
Edited by JOHNN111 on Mon 09/22/14 02:39 PM



If the person taking the oath has no belief in that thing in which it's being sworn upon


where's the veracity OF the oath?


That's my point, too.
It is just a vain public display of false piety for an atheist or agnostic to say "So help me God."
yea,but its nonetheless a gradual but steady descent to abyss and systematic obliteration of God from the consciousness of Americans;in addition to other ealier anti-God policies of the government of US


Oh my god! slaphead


That better? :tongue:


Edit*

When they remove this below from the courts... You know we're all doomed, DOOMED I SAY!!! scared laugh

"Do you solemnly swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth so help you God?





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Mon 09/22/14 02:44 PM

yea,but its nonetheless a gradual but steady descent to abyss and systematic obliteration of God from the consciousness of Americans;in addition to other ealier anti-God policies of the government of US

Well, we can but hope so.
That is the POINT of separation of church and state.
God is a private thing, no 2 people in the world probably
view it the same.
Legislating what one thinks is ridiculous.