Ultimately I only own that which I can protect by application of force, the risk I am willing to accept for it's use, and to the degree I am willing to use it.


People can say what they want, and people expect the darnedest things with nothing more than very little consistent bnehavior.

Ownership of your own body has nothing to do with owning someone else, and complying with expectations is something else entirely.

I like this person ^^^they're smart..!!
.. yep they being schooled real well...
can I keep them !!!. grandpa..

. sorry I had to look!! can I keep him !!!..grandpa..lol

Hi I_am_trustworthy,
Is this a philosophical, theological or sociological question?

This type of topic will be answered internally in people according to their world view, and personal and/or religious convictions.

Succinctly put:-
* Some people will think their body is their own, and will treat it accordingly
* Some will think their body is a 'temple'
* Some will think their body is part of the universe and joined to all things
* Some will think their body was created by God and belongs to him
* Some will think their body is given/belongs to their partner and vice versa, as in 'two becomes one'
to name just a few (because I don't know how to reference the body in relation to reincarnation...)
and there are others that I can't put into words...

I view all life as sacred, both mother and child in equal measure and also the father, of course.
Children are a gift to the parents from God (My belief) whether they are planned or accidental; and as such the children's bodies need to be nourished, nurtured and protected until their reach the age at which they can take care of themselves. Then they are accountable to themselves as to how they treat their body, and other people.

I don't see anywhere in your post about referencing rape. Maybe your phrase about indulging in acts prompted that thought in others - but I don't read it that way.

Are you scratching the deeper argument of how people 'live'? If so, then it is also related to inner convictions and upbringing, etc. I have to say that I am noticing a serious and worrying decline in the level of respect people show towards each other, and a lot of younger people have little self respect. - Let me explain before I get a tirade of complaints from the afore-mentioned.
Put it down to media overload etc. I know I am generalising but take a look around you, and observe how people are in, for e.g. in queues. Some people will give a virtual stranger a BJ or hand-job and then part ways ??? No judgement here, just observation because it relates to self-respect and ultimately is a selfish act if it doesn't include some level of commitment. It harms the soul.

Let me drive this argument home. Just yesterday, in my own county of Cork (in Ireland), a 20 year old boy went 'postal', lost it completely and stabbed his own 9 year old twin brothers to death and then took his own life...horrific, heart-breaking incident. It has shook up the whole community. How do you explain that?

Everyone,

I believe that English is not the native language of i_am_trustworthy, which is why his thoughts are not coming out clearly to people who have English as their native language.

I got the beer!

Dear people,
Thank you for the pain u all took in posting ur thoughts.
I read a lesson in my school days, titled " Speach is Silver, but Silence is Golden." Then why the heck should I put a badly sculpted piece in this public forum, inviting there by, not criticism ( of thoughts, style etc) ,but even personal redicule?
I was aware that this could happen, but I had some thoughts, feelings, which by airing here, I envisaged at a few considered views about the subject matter.
And the subject matter, to be true to myself, and all of you here, is that I am worried about the general conditions that presently exist in the world we are living in.
Violence, barbaric acts, uncaring of other human beings etc have pervaded the social behaviour of many of us. There by causing pain, physical harm, sadness etc in others.
I felt that the root cause of all this is exceeding selfishness that got rooted in many of us. Uncaring attitude concerning other's wellbeing. I thought it is time to bring this into the forefront, and make at least a few of you, in sparing a thought, and to air views on the subject.
I wanted to say, selfishness would be giving a moment's satisfaction, and other fulfillment of needs, that each of us pine for. I wanted to stress the fact that, there is no permanent happiness in such acts. Also in the long run one may rue for his acts. I wanted to say do indulge in good deeds as the result of these good deeds is permanent and is One's own, and nothing else is. Also in the case of bad deeds.

If these thoughts are not worthy to be aired in this medium, in this virtual world, possibly, I missed my brief.
Hence it depends on your intelligence to judge the merits. If I caused you to waste your time in going through a worthless post, pardon me; if at least one of you think in the same lines as me, please do write to me.
Personal jibes are also welcome as some one did, as that will make me to be a better human being, and exposes the other's flaws in comprehension of the subject matter. Thank you again.

... well you can't blame everybody..
. I mean after all this is a dating social site...
..... and although you have some valid points.... but honestly the world is not all that bad...
.. I mean right now here's a group of people.. that are willing to listen to you.. to give you the time of day...
a complete stranger....
. and yes some of us poked fun..
.. some of us took you serious..
.. and some of us disagreed with your statement.. your point of view..
.. but that's life right....
. and by the way... welcome..2m2..

Thank you. U are absolutely right, and I am not saying anything bad bat anybody. I just wanted to sound people on any platform that' s available to me and really think bat the suitability of the sight. Possibly I was over-anxious. Thnx again. Have a nice life.

You are very correct.Nothing more to write.

Reacting to comment for the sake of reacting, defending the indefensible, would be highly improper on my part, especially having initiated the discussion. But:
No amount of reasoning , any much of explanation, would help in convincing a person, who strongly opines that their understanding is the only correct one. And if at all someone has some complex, none could help.
And passing a harsh comment against a country, people's of a nation in general is in bad taste, kindly let me assert.
Reg the personal aggression against me, is anybody's choice. I can not stop it. At least I am honest and frank, and did not hide behind the anonymity of the virtual world. And that describes my character. If someone in this portal feels I am a rouge, or a scoundrel of the first order, that is their privilege. On this point I offer no rebuttal.
Perhaps, when the requirements of ego are catered to, another cool reading, and a thought on the subject matter may help, in a different perception. Hoping so, and meaning no offense to anybody who cared to post their feelings, I conclude, quoting Late Rabindranath Tagore, from his poem, "Where the mind is without fear ,where knowledge is free,........." The last line of the above is "My Father, let my country awake." I would like to substitute the word "Country," with the word "Brotheren."May peace be unto you all. Amen.

Poorly sculpted is an understatement. Purposely vague.

Your culture is vastly different.

If this is meant to stir thoughts of 50 shades of grey, I kinda thought that book was in poor taste and could only read 1/2 of it.

Submissive is a relative thing to love in our country. We are not owned, although, my father might have thought so and my abusive ex husband. 18 years of submissive, until I fought back.

They say that's what get's the woman killed in an abusive relationship. Being fed up with it and fighting back.

No, this is not feminism. Not in the least.

#Slobs, mam, with sincere apologies for the delay in replying to ur question, I was attempting to address a sociological issue. I appreciate ur efforts in trying to understand my badly put thoughts (I say this because, having read the opinions expressed here, I failed in highlighting my intentions) , and make ur point. I feel that the incident(s) quoted by you are the result of the behaviour in general, being observed by the young ones. So, unless we change, it can not be a better world in future.

Not sure what all the fuss is about...

Your body is the only thing you do own actually.IMO

* Someone pass me the sweet popcorn and a lemon beer *

According to what I believe, the physical body is the vessel of the soul, the spirit. Yes, it is a gift, as through our physical bodies we can experience things you could not ever learn & experience if you'd stayed in the ethereal realms. Like pain, pleasure, touches, intimacy etc etc etc
But we can choose as beings what we do with our physical 'vessels', as it's our birthright to have one, but also to do what we like. We have freedom and freedom of choice.
So if you decide damage your body by smoking, stuffing it with junk food, alcohol or whatever, it's your choice to make.
As far as I'm concerned we come here to live a life in a physical body to learn. And perhaps per chance you want to experience physical pain, ailments, maybe you came here to experience about relationships and sex. Whatever it is, it's something you can only learn, do, experience when in a physical 'vessel'.

Apart from all that, our bodies are also effected by our pasts, albeit this one or previous lives. We have a thing called 'cell memory' - I believe even science is started to acknowledge this. Meaning that my body would have been totally different had someone else 'inhabited' it. Since I 'live' in it, it holds my past in its cell memories, determining the way it functions, good or bad.

Anyways, can go on for a lot longer about this subject, but I think we've just ran out of popcorn and lemon beer.

SOmeone please run to the shops and get some more?!

Lemon Beer?

This is crazy talk... Totally UNCanadian!

Lol, it's the new craze over here. Raddler, delicious! Even better than pink beer and only 2% alcohol, so you can actually drink 2 bottles of it and still be safe to drive home.

Double gag, If I wanted my beer to taste like fruit, I'd drink fruitjuice.

yeah, but that wouldn't be beer than, now, would it?
I'm a woman, I like things sweet, including me beer

The sweet popcorn is mine! I saw her first.