It saddening that pre-marital
sex has taken over our
time. In the past most of our
men would disassociate
themselves with girls who
have been deflowered
outside wedlock. Then a
woman's virginity was her
pride but time has changed
& human beings have
changed. Maybe we should
blame civilisation or
modernization. The Pride of
a women now is...?

depends on where you live
here in the usa i would guess independence
but really all depends on witch lady you ask really

and why do i all ways hear its bad when a woman deflowers them self's but ok when a male does it ? lol

Her physical, emotional, social and intellectual resilience.

Having sex before marriage i think is important.
Its an old fashioned view to believe we keep our virginity.

Sexual chemistry is an important part of a relationship, well for me it is. Sometimes its not there even with people i have found attractive.

With ways of protecting ourselves from pregnancy and disease i don't see it as a problem. Its part of who we are and helps us evolve. I dont mean a different man every night obviously!

Its a natural loving thing to do when you meet someone , find them attractive and want that closeness you can only get during that intimate moment. An act of love.

so,you tell us that the Selfesteem of a Woman is dependent on a teenzy-weeny bit of Tissue,that is even absent in some,or hardly perceivable?
Pretty archaic!

maybe people realized that women can only be 'deflowered' by the men willing to do so,, and that if it isn't shameful for the one, it shouldn't be shameful for the other,,,


a womans pride depends upon the woman

for some, its the health and stability of their family or their family home

for others, its their looks or financial status

women are individuals, and they are diverse

Right there with that gal being deflowered is a guy more than willing to accomplish the task, so a certain amount of 'blame' has to be on the guy's shoulders as well. This is a double standard, no matter how you spin it, always has been.

Deflowering is an old fashion, out dated term, as old fashion and outdated as the idea that virginity for women must be preserved until marriage. Women are more educated, more independent, more in tune with themselves and their lives and what they want than ever before, and not likely to allow an old fashion notion of purity determine how they proceed in a relationship... unless it is against their will.

That's an extremely simplistic and biased view of the past that isn't anywhere near being correct, at least without a lot of variables.

Are you basing this on the media of today?
Or just "what everybody knows?"


"Then" they had no such thing as DNA tests or penicillin.
You tell me any other method to prevent STD's or guaranteeing your heir is actually yours.


Not really.


Blame for what? Using the equipment they were born with?


Based on my experience with dating sites and forums it still seems to be their vagina.

Same as it has always been.
We just don't take the crap verbal abuse from men
any more about OUR bodies.

I agree with souf most women do not anymore and that is up to
the women... choice...unless as other had said raped ...
or culture may have something to do with it depending on where you live...

....her brain.

I am mixing it up op ...have you ever heard of Gay Pride... those women can be proud lesbians ...
oh and still may have their virginity ...uhmmm...

People love to make it seem like life was all leave it to Beaver pre 1969 but the honest truth is we are all people with the same urges as any other time. I read an article once talking about how this new invention was going to enable young people to go out drive fast away from their parents and then give them a place to have sex. They were not talking about a car they were talking about a horse drawn cart! People are people no matter what year we're born, don't sweat it just be happy to live in a time where you won't get burned as a witch for anything and have fun.

"What's Now The Pride Of A Woman"

I thought that a pride was a group of lions.

There is still much about planet Earth that I do not understand, and I'm not a lyin'.

Feminine virility?

virginity has nothing to do with pride.
pride comes from effort and achievement. from choices of your own integrity. everyone, man or woman has their own idea of pride.
for example, today I'm proud of myself because even though we lost our game, I gave it everything I had and not only could I see improvement from last week, but also those who called easy out were surprised.
for me that's part of pride, striving to be your own personal best.