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actually, when I say he speaks out for justice , I am not speaking opinion
I am speaking from what his WORDS Say,, he regularly speaks about and for JUSTICE, literally I don't care if he makes money or not, this is America, everybody gotta eat and survive and I tire of the term 'race bait' to discredit anyone who speaks out on issues involving race but of course that is a term used in discussion of opinion, as you already stated,,,, as far as helping black communities, Im sure , beyond a doubt, he impacts upon them much more often and significantly than anyone calling him names and putting him down on this forum these are the 'facts' ,,, not in my view,, but in reality |
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my support is not of his 'intentions', because I am not the thought police nor a psychic who can say what they are though, I do tend to believe that ones actions and their results speak a lot to their 'intention' my support is of his RESULTS in the families and the communities he has advocated for,,,, From what I've seen, Sharpton's goals and results seem to divide the country more and more. He is very good at race baiting. It sad, because if he put more energy into uniting us, he probably has some power to do that.... |
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my support is not of his 'intentions', because I am not the thought police nor a psychic who can say what they are though, I do tend to believe that ones actions and their results speak a lot to their 'intention' my support is of his RESULTS in the families and the communities he has advocated for,,,, From what I've seen, Sharpton's goals and results seem to divide the country more and more. He is very good at race baiting. It sad, because if he put more energy into uniting us, he probably has some power to do that.... he does unite, people who don't wish to hear race discussed are usually the only ones feeling 'divided' |
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he does unite, people who don't wish to hear race discussed are usually the only ones feeling 'divided' Well, I wish to hear race discussed, I wish to hear everything discussed...and I feel the division all the time...just sayin. |
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Al,"The Honest Snakeoil-Salesman"!
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Edited by
msharmony
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Thu 08/14/14 09:18 AM
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[quote he does unite, people who don't wish to hear race discussed are usually the only ones feeling 'divided' Well, I wish to hear race discussed, I wish to hear everything discussed...and I feel the division all the time...just sayin. no probs, you can say, and I can not believe unless someone can give examples of how Sharpton actually 'divides' the whole nation singlehandedly , or even tell me three things Sharpton has said or done in the past year, that was 'divisive' of the nation,,, what happens is the media shapes too many peoples opinions so that they speak about individuals based upon nothing but the medias choice of representation and without any PERSONAL research or logic of their own,,,, that's the kind of logic that , for instance, would cause people to say that men are vicious and criminal IF it happened that the media chose to focus on and flood its images and news with stories of how violent and criminal men are don't get media tunnelvision,, much more happens than just what is in the news, and not everything in the news is the actual context of what is happening,,, 
Sharpton , whether he gets paid or not, and whether EVERY person feels he has helped them or not,, does a lot of good,,,,,and unites plenty,,,,,,although he also calls attention to DIVISION that is already there knowing full well he will be full blamed for being the one who created it by speaking on it,,, |
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Will Rev. Sharpton speak out against those other cases of racism?
I doubt it because Sharpton is a Democrat, and Democrats are selective about which acts of racism that they will speak against. |
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Will Rev. Sharpton speak out against those other cases of racism? I doubt it because Sharpton is a Democrat, and Democrats are selective about which acts of racism that they will speak against. Sharpton normally speaks out about violence and disparities in how some groups are treated. Seems in those 'other' cited cases , the system spoke for them, there was no violence involved and , the situations weren't something that are common 'as a group' against the group those individuals are a part of,,,, |
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Will Rev. Sharpton speak out against those other cases of racism? I doubt it because Sharpton is a Democrat, and Democrats are selective about which acts of racism that they will speak against. Sharpton normally speaks out about violence and disparities in how some groups are treated. Seems in those 'other' cited cases , the system spoke for them, there was no violence involved and , the situations weren't something that are common 'as a group' against the group those individuals are a part of,,,, So, do you acknowledge those other cases of racism as being acts of racism, and do you denounce them? |
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Really? This is what you are concerned about? What about the militarization of our police? Which is based on the Phoenix Program, from Vietnam? How is firing into a peaceful protest doing "their duty" with "restraint" .
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that's odd,, cause I didn't think I used vocabulary behind a high school level let me repeat what I was 'saying' ... one speaks out for justice and the other speaks for separation these are facts,, not liberal or conservative logic,, just facts ,,,, the level of 'honesty' is about as relevant an issue as comparing an HONEST klu klux klan man with a dishonest husband the integrity of being 'honest' isn't the cloud that covers and makes irrelevant the FACTS of whatever one is being 'honest' about,,, Saying that one speaks out for justice is an opinion and a liberal one at that. It is not a fact. You are playing fast and loose with your "facts". Al Sharpton seeks publicity which he can use to make money. He race baits and uses the problems in the black community to further his own goals ... which do not help the black community. These are the "facts" in my view. Logistically these are and have been his intentions. My history teacher always spoke about his celebrity status more than his actual purpose. I don't see him anything beyond the publicity storm he creates. Nothing more. MLK, he is not. |
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At the moment, I do not see anything wrong with Rev. Sharpton going to Ferguson, Missouri.
Let's see what he actually does there before criticizing him. The fact that I posted those commentaries in the OP doesn't necessarily mean that I agree with them. I just wanted to start a conversation. |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Thu 08/14/14 08:46 PM
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that's odd,, cause I didn't think I used vocabulary behind a high school level let me repeat what I was 'saying' ... one speaks out for justice and the other speaks for separation these are facts,, not liberal or conservative logic,, just facts ,,,, the level of 'honesty' is about as relevant an issue as comparing an HONEST klu klux klan man with a dishonest husband the integrity of being 'honest' isn't the cloud that covers and makes irrelevant the FACTS of whatever one is being 'honest' about,,, Saying that one speaks out for justice is an opinion and a liberal one at that. It is not a fact. You are playing fast and loose with your "facts". Al Sharpton seeks publicity which he can use to make money. He race baits and uses the problems in the black community to further his own goals ... which do not help the black community. These are the "facts" in my view. Logistically these are and have been his intentions. My history teacher always spoke about his celebrity status more than his actual purpose. I don't see him anything beyond the publicity storm he creates. Nothing more. MLK, he is not. my history teachers barely spoke about black people at all, doesn't mean there weren't plenty with 'purpose' ,just saying nothing against them but how can they know what has no direct benefit to them and what they haven't experienced,, people in the black communities could share the difference Sharpton makes that I imagine many outside those communities have no idea about because they only base their information on the media spin,,,, like I said, I don't know his intentions beyond what he says they are and what the results seem to back up he 'furthers' the discussion about race and justice and if that happens to also be a source of income,,,its no less deserved than te income of the newscasters who 'further' the discussion about violence and terrorism,,etc,,,, |
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differences between david duke and al Sharpton not both were elected, repeat ELECTED , to public office not both were members of the KKK one speaks out for justice and the other is a separatist one has worn Nazi uniforms and celebrated Hitlers birthday but yeah, all discussion of race and justice is the same,,,,just race baiting,,,, 
hat's the difference between the KKK (now days and Dukes days) and the groups like the black panthers? and groups Sharpton and Jackson belong to NOTHING. All of them, Duke, Jackson and Sharpton are worthless and cut from the same mold, just different skin colors. Sharpton ONLY speaks out for justice when it supports HIS causes just like Duke. |
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differences between david duke and al Sharpton not both were elected, repeat ELECTED , to public office not both were members of the KKK one speaks out for justice and the other is a separatist one has worn Nazi uniforms and celebrated Hitlers birthday but yeah, all discussion of race and justice is the same,,,,just race baiting,,,,
So basically you are saying one is honest, not hiding his intent, does not seek to manipulate thru the powers of public office, while the other, who has been proven to be crooked, corrupt, a liar and a fraud, seeking the power of public office and money over principle at the expense of his own people, is a better role model? Liberal logic at its best! not both were elected, repeat ELECTED , and found corrupt while holding public office not both were members of the Black Caucus one speaks out for Racism and the other is a separatist one has worn Nazi uniforms and celebrated Hitlers birthday while the other profits from the grief his own people thru racist actions 
They are all cut from the same mold. It's funny. I knew one person would come in blinding defending Uncle Jesse and Dishonorable Al. |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Fri 08/15/14 12:04 AM
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differences between david duke and al Sharpton not both were elected, repeat ELECTED , to public office not both were members of the KKK one speaks out for justice and the other is a separatist one has worn Nazi uniforms and celebrated Hitlers birthday but yeah, all discussion of race and justice is the same,,,,just race baiting,,,,
hat's the difference between the KKK (now days and Dukes days) and the groups like the black panthers? and groups Sharpton and Jackson belong to NOTHING. All of them, Duke, Jackson and Sharpton are worthless and cut from the same mold, just different skin colors. Sharpton ONLY speaks out for justice when it supports HIS causes just like Duke. there is quite a bit of difference between calling for separation and substandard status of others, and calling for justice and equality anyone who 'speaks out' does so for their 'causes',,,,,thats kind of the point,,, in this case, in quite the contrary to the title of the thread Sharptons 'relevance' is in the civil rights and community causes, like it has been his whole life, |
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that's odd,, cause I didn't think I used vocabulary behind a high school level let me repeat what I was 'saying' one was ELECTED (meaning a majority agreed with him) to public office one was a member of the KKK one speaks out for justice and the other speaks for separation one has worn Nazi Uniforms and celebrated Hitlers birthday these are facts,, not liberal or conservative logic,, just facts one being a documented and consistent Nazi supporting separatist who STILL go elected to public office the other being a public figure who has no chance of EVER being elected to office who speaks out for many issues INCLUDING racial equality and justice and social progress,,,, the level of 'honesty' is about as relevant an issue as comparing an HONEST klu klux klan man with a dishonest husband the integrity of being 'honest' isn't the cloud that covers and makes irrelevant the FACTS of whatever one is being 'honest' about,,, Ummm remind me which office did Jackson or Sharpton hold? Jackson's son held office and is in federal prison for corruption. Duke actually got elected to office, never hiding who he was or what he stood for and the whole country was against him BOTH parties and he still won by a good majority. Just saying...... |
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that's odd,, cause I didn't think I used vocabulary behind a high school level let me repeat what I was 'saying' one was ELECTED (meaning a majority agreed with him) to public office one was a member of the KKK one speaks out for justice and the other speaks for separation one has worn Nazi Uniforms and celebrated Hitlers birthday these are facts,, not liberal or conservative logic,, just facts one being a documented and consistent Nazi supporting separatist who STILL go elected to public office the other being a public figure who has no chance of EVER being elected to office who speaks out for many issues INCLUDING racial equality and justice and social progress,,,, the level of 'honesty' is about as relevant an issue as comparing an HONEST klu klux klan man with a dishonest husband the integrity of being 'honest' isn't the cloud that covers and makes irrelevant the FACTS of whatever one is being 'honest' about,,, Ummm remind me which office did Jackson or Sharpton hold? Jackson's son held office and is in federal prison for corruption. Duke actually got elected to office, never hiding who he was or what he stood for and the whole country was against him BOTH parties and he still won by a good majority. Just saying...... David Duke was elected, despite his kkk background that was one of those 'differences' I was highlighting Jacksons son is not Jackson |
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yeah, he only PRETENDED to found civil rights networks all across the country,,,, he only PRETENDS to be able to bring attention to and for families whose injustices may otherwise go unnoticed and uncared about he only PRETENDED to work with MLK he only PRETENDS to help advocate for voter registration and job training he only PRETENDS to get investors to contribute to and invest in minority communities yeah,, he is only PRETENDING to help,,,, the dishonest race baiter
Sadly, I believe you honestly think he has good intentions..... and that is why there is such division in the world..... because people still back known corrupt politicians with media support blurring the lines of principle It's like banging your head against the wall sometimes.......... |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Fri 08/15/14 12:12 AM
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yeah, he only PRETENDED to found civil rights networks all across the country,,,, he only PRETENDS to be able to bring attention to and for families whose injustices may otherwise go unnoticed and uncared about he only PRETENDED to work with MLK he only PRETENDS to help advocate for voter registration and job training he only PRETENDS to get investors to contribute to and invest in minority communities yeah,, he is only PRETENDING to help,,,, the dishonest race baiter
Sadly, I believe you honestly think he has good intentions..... and that is why there is such division in the world..... because people still back known corrupt politicians with media support blurring the lines of principle It's like banging your head against the wall sometimes.......... no kidding,,,,, pop quiz time,, can anyone here name ONE BLACK MAN who speaks out about issues of racial injustice that you don't consider 'race baiting' or 'divisive'? |
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