Topic: Families of Dead Thugs Wanna Sue the Elderly Widow
TBRich's photo
Mon 07/28/14 05:26 PM




If I saw a gun my first instinct would be to turn around to run.

Doesn't make the thugs any less guilty or the ELDERLY VICTIM wrong for protecting herself.


the question wasnt whether they were guilty, we dont have death penalty for thieves because punishment wouldnt fit the crime


its cowardly to shoot someone that has run away, and not harmed anyone, no longer imminent threat,,,,


Apparently, on Staten Island, the penalty for being suspected of selling loose cigarettes in death.






police have the authority , due to their own fears and assaults and not knowing if the person MIGHT hurt them,,,to issue death warrants,,,

the public would like to be given that same authority,, apparently


But no authority to use banned choke holds. In my line of work physical restraint is the last thing you do as people can die from what is known as psychotic exhaustion during a restraint; nor would I ever teach a choke or strangle hold to staff

willing2's photo
Mon 07/28/14 05:42 PM
Granny did no choke holds.

Or, is this a case of attempted thread hijacking?

TBRich's photo
Mon 07/28/14 05:54 PM

Granny did no choke holds.

Or, is this a case of attempted thread hijacking?

No, I was just comparing a recent case in NYC where the police needlessly killed someone. Here in Philly, there was a famous mob wife who later married a cop. When asked what the difference between her two ex's was, she stated the only difference was that one had a badge.

willing2's photo
Mon 07/28/14 06:01 PM
Granny brought a gun.

Granny wasn't a cop.

Granny feared for her life.

The thugs bought the farm.

Granny is safe.

Do I hear a big hallelujah?drinker

TBRich's photo
Mon 07/28/14 06:06 PM
I believe that people need to defend themselves, but I also believe that the taking of a life does no one honour. Just ask those vets with PTSD, I still get nightmares 30 years later

willing2's photo
Mon 07/28/14 06:35 PM
Those thugs parents should be arrested and charged with negligence, made to pay for any damages done whilst committing the crime and any trauma therapy Granny needs.

no photo
Mon 07/28/14 06:40 PM

I believe that people need to defend themselves, but I also believe that the taking of a life does no one honour. Just ask those vets with PTSD, I still get nightmares 30 years later


This is true, there is no celebrating death.
It's a shame they decided to take this path for themselves.

A well trained dog would have let these thieves in but would have never let them leave... There's some wisdom to this method I'm thinking.

Don't mess with peoples homes and no one gets hurts Cheers!


no photo
Mon 07/28/14 09:31 PM



its cowardly to shoot someone that has run away


It wasn't cowardice. It was fear.

and not harmed anyone


Not harmed anyone? Those thugs did harm someone, and that someone shot them.


fear and cowardice can co exist

how were the shooters harmed,,, they are both still alive yes?




You are only considering physical harm aren't you ?

Why should this elderly woman have to live in fear of these thugs
( or another group ) returning one day and actually causing physical harm.

We as a society need to stop coddling these degenerates that prey on the weak and quit giving them excuses to commit crimes !

msharmony's photo
Mon 07/28/14 11:32 PM




its cowardly to shoot someone that has run away


It wasn't cowardice. It was fear.

and not harmed anyone


Not harmed anyone? Those thugs did harm someone, and that someone shot them.


fear and cowardice can co exist

how were the shooters harmed,,, they are both still alive yes?




You are only considering physical harm aren't you ?

Why should this elderly woman have to live in fear of these thugs
( or another group ) returning one day and actually causing physical harm.

We as a society need to stop coddling these degenerates that prey on the weak and quit giving them excuses to commit crimes !


I am thinking about physical harm.

life is not a safe place, there are risks and chances we take just walking out our door,, mere 'fear' is not an excuse for taking a life

not for me,, too many people to be fearful of by the way they act and the things they say, but I dont have authority to declare that I should have life (even one with fear) and they shouldnt have any

adj4u's photo
Tue 07/29/14 07:49 AM


If I saw a gun my first instinct would be to turn around to run.

Doesn't make the thugs any less guilty or the ELDERLY VICTIM wrong for protecting herself.


the question wasnt whether they were guilty, we dont have death penalty for thieves because punishment wouldnt fit the crime


its cowardly to shoot someone that has run away, and not harmed anyone, no longer imminent threat,,,,


it was proven they entered in the past at least once sorry put they were trespassing and would more than likely would have done it again

how many times would it take before they became violent and who is to say they were not going to be violent this time

they illegally entered a home on multiple occasions they were lucky they were not shot sooner and whos to say that the last time they broke in that they were not warned to not come back or they would be shot

the teens broke the law and a death occurred technically they could be charged with murder even tho they were the ones killed

msharmony's photo
Tue 07/29/14 11:54 AM



If I saw a gun my first instinct would be to turn around to run.

Doesn't make the thugs any less guilty or the ELDERLY VICTIM wrong for protecting herself.


the question wasnt whether they were guilty, we dont have death penalty for thieves because punishment wouldnt fit the crime


its cowardly to shoot someone that has run away, and not harmed anyone, no longer imminent threat,,,,


it was proven they entered in the past at least once sorry put they were trespassing and would more than likely would have done it again

how many times would it take before they became violent and who is to say they were not going to be violent this time

they illegally entered a home on multiple occasions they were lucky they were not shot sooner and whos to say that the last time they broke in that they were not warned to not come back or they would be shot

the teens broke the law and a death occurred technically they could be charged with murder even tho they were the ones killed




gee, I don't know,, how long before some vulgar jerk will become violent? how long before some disgruntled spouse will become violent?

should that give the listener or spouse the right to shoot them because what they may EVENTUALLY do?

cops look at profiles and whether there is a violent past,, breaking and entering or robbery without a weapon is not considered a VIOLENT offense

and no reason to believe that the mo will change to violence, although its always POSSIBLE, as it is with anyone that ever raises their voice to us or gets angry with us.

I know a death occurred when it didn't need to and that's the shame of it. I also know that because of the residents decision to kill someone those with that person can now be charged with felony murder.

willing2's photo
Tue 07/29/14 12:09 PM
Who is charging Granny with murder?laughlaugh

msharmony's photo
Tue 07/29/14 12:47 PM
in the age of treyvon

no one,, 'fear' is the new justification....

Conrad_73's photo
Tue 07/29/14 02:03 PM
so,how much do they think those Thuggies are worth?

adj4u's photo
Thu 07/31/14 07:02 AM




If I saw a gun my first instinct would be to turn around to run.

Doesn't make the thugs any less guilty or the ELDERLY VICTIM wrong for protecting herself.


the question wasnt whether they were guilty, we dont have death penalty for thieves because punishment wouldnt fit the crime


its cowardly to shoot someone that has run away, and not harmed anyone, no longer imminent threat,,,,


it was proven they entered in the past at least once sorry put they were trespassing and would more than likely would have done it again

how many times would it take before they became violent and who is to say they were not going to be violent this time

they illegally entered a home on multiple occasions they were lucky they were not shot sooner and whos to say that the last time they broke in that they were not warned to not come back or they would be shot

the teens broke the law and a death occurred technically they could be charged with murder even tho they were the ones killed




gee, I don't know,, how long before some vulgar jerk will become violent? how long before some disgruntled spouse will become violent?

should that give the listener or spouse the right to shoot them because what they may EVENTUALLY do?

cops look at profiles and whether there is a violent past,, breaking and entering or robbery without a weapon is not considered a VIOLENT offense

and no reason to believe that the mo will change to violence, although its always POSSIBLE, as it is with anyone that ever raises their voice to us or gets angry with us.

I know a death occurred when it didn't need to and that's the shame of it. I also know that because of the residents decision to kill someone those with that person can now be charged with felony murder.


well as long as they do not come into my house illegally they can get any way they want

you break the law you pay the penalty

it is common knowledge if you break into someones hows you might
just might get shot

they took a chance they wouldn't and lost

i guess they should have picked a less risky profession

msharmony's photo
Thu 07/31/14 12:44 PM
to each their own values

I just value life more,, even a thiefs life,,,,

no photo
Thu 07/31/14 02:42 PM




Breaking into someones sanctuary(home) should become a death sentence regardless of race. Don't get me wrong, I value life... But I value freedom more!


I value life more than property or sense of ownership

the latter can be replaced, the former cannot


If the ones breaking in don't value their own life... Why should anyone else?

They shouldn't be there in the first place... remember, serial killers don't want your stuff, they just want to kill you... No time to make that judgement call... Those who break in are all killers as far as I'd be concerned.



thats unfortunate,,,,

should we change the legal penalty for breaking and entering to the death sentence as well?


No, Granny changed that law herself.bigsmile

adj4u's photo
Thu 07/31/14 09:38 PM

in the age of treyvon

no one,, 'fear' is the new justification....


when a thug acts like travon fear is justified

adj4u's photo
Thu 07/31/14 09:38 PM

to each their own values

I just value life more,, even a thiefs life,,,,



so if ur white and sue an author for defamation and the author dies
u r supposed drop the suit

but if u r black teens it is ok break into a house to steal from
a woman who is already a widow and not allow that woman full power
to defend herself and her property

msharmony's photo
Thu 07/31/14 11:53 PM


to each their own values

I just value life more,, even a thiefs life,,,,



so if ur white and sue an author for defamation and the author dies
u r supposed drop the suit

but if u r black teens it is ok break into a house to steal from
a woman who is already a widow and not allow that woman full power
to defend herself and her property


Im not sure where this stretch came from,,,lol

are you training for the Olympics

laugh laugh


1. IF someone has defamed you, or you believe you were defamed, no matter the race or occupation of those involved, you have the right to take it to the courts to resolve the situation and try to put an end to the continuous damage done by the repeat of such defamatory information.

2. If someone breaks into someone elses house,, whatever the race or occupation of those involved, ,, it is not right.

3. It is also not right to shoot someone in the back for doing something that was not right.