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The Jesuits were the only ones I'm aware of who took Christianity seriously. Everyone else just did it part-time or hardly at all. Speaking of Jesuits, there's a brilliant film about them called Black Robe. You might be able to find it on youtube. I really don't find people who take it seriously, its mainly used as an ego defense mechanism. You aren't looking very hard, are ya. |
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The Jesuits were the only ones I'm aware of who took Christianity seriously. Everyone else just did it part-time or hardly at all. Speaking of Jesuits, there's a brilliant film about them called Black Robe. You might be able to find it on youtube. I think what you are looking for are true 'israelites' which is something different than christians I agree, there are no longer 'israelites'(jews of the bible) following steadfast to the old testament law,,,,though there is a synagogue of satan discusssed in the bible and open for a different discussion but, Redmist. like mans labels here on earth (besides male and female) , God does not use these categories and labels,, remember it this way Matthew 21:32 Jesus said to them, “Truly I tell you, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are entering the kingdom of God ahead of you. 32 For John came to you to show you the way of righteousness, and you did not believe him, but the tax collectors and the prostitutes did. And even after you saw this, you did not repent and believe him certainly, to prostitute is a sin Redmist,, yet it is not called upon to be sinless and perfect and 'sacrifice' all, it is called upon to be a 'believer', regardless of past or present sins,,, and there are many many believers in this world, whatever religious label they or others use to describe them |
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The Jesuits were the only ones I'm aware of who took Christianity seriously. Everyone else just did it part-time or hardly at all. Speaking of Jesuits, there's a brilliant film about them called Black Robe. You might be able to find it on youtube. I really don't find people who take it seriously, its mainly used as an ego defense mechanism. You aren't looking very hard, are ya. Most people I see just use to justify their behaviour/attitudes*; people who read the Bible for hours a day and yet have no idea what it really says; people who get their theology from movies not classwork; >edited out funny joke< * 2000 thousand year old world views from reading a 2000 year old book; The book kinda starts with the Noahide Code saying "love one another" and comes all the way around to Jesus saying "love one another" And yet people only look for and quote verses that justify their hatred and ignorance |
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Hatred for God's authority over Mankind drives some people to see "hatred and ignorance" among Christians where there isn't any.
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there is not one pure
there are many proclaming a chrstian identity who espouse hatred and ignorance,, they are sadly being seen as representative of christianity in its totality,,, |
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Edited by
red6mist
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Mon 07/07/14 03:11 PM
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To Misharmony, regarding that little excerpt about prostitutes. If they repent they will be saved. But they will not be permitted to enter god's chambers. Those privileges are reserved for real Christians.
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Edited by
msharmony
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Mon 07/07/14 03:15 PM
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To Misharmony, regarding that little excerpt about prostitutes. If they repent they will be saved. But they will not be permitted to enter god's chambers. Those privileges are reserved for real Christians. I dont recall that ANYWHERE in the bible. "gods chambers"? where is that in the bible? entering the Kingdom of God is not reserved for Christians per se, as that is a man made label but the passage provided does illustrate that there is noone in need of being perfect , only believing,,,, |
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Edited by
red6mist
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Mon 07/07/14 03:38 PM
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It says somewhere in the gospels that those who please god the most get to sit near him. Or something like that. Remember, the gate is narrow. Not just anyone can gain entry. Sure he will spare those that repent but they'll probably be made to sweep the yard or something while all the Jesuits are drinking champagne in the mess hall.
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What kinda guy wouldn't let a hooker into his chambers? LOL
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G-d's authority? This is how it always starts
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What kinda guy wouldn't let a hooker into his chambers? LOL a man |
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The enemies of Christianity are misrepresenting Christianity in this discussion thread.
No surprise there. |
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It says somewhere in the gospels that those who please god the most get to sit near him. Or something like that. Remember, the gate is narrow. Not just anyone can gain entry. Sure he will spare those that repent but they'll probably be made to sweep the yard or something while all the Jesuits are drinking champagne in the mess hall. more things that are not in the bible |
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The enemies of Christianity are misrepresenting Christianity in this discussion thread. No surprise there. Criticizing things that are wrong with certain cult-like ideology does not make someone an enemy, unless of course we are talking about Scientology. But no surprises there |
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there is not one pure there are many proclaming a chrstian identity who espouse hatred and ignorance,, they are sadly being seen as representative of christianity in its totality,,, Thank you Ms Harmony |
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Edited by
zunelander
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Sun 07/13/14 07:25 AM
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IMHO, there is a misunderstanding of what 'believing in Jesus' means, as well as a misunderstanding, among some, that a person has to be a Christian in order to enter heaven. There are a lot of things in the bible, but not all things in the bible are applicable now. Especially, since Jesus discarded the law of Moses as being a necessary set of commands. Only the law of Christ is applicable for humanity now. All of humanity, not just anyone who calls themselves a Christian.
IMHO, God is not concerned with religious labels and/or affiliations. He's more concerned with whether a person does what his law requires. That person could be a Christian or not. If you're a Christian and you fail to do what the law requires, then you will suffer punishment for disobedience and the title of 'Christian' will have no saving power, as it is irrelevant if you've lived a life of disobedience to the law of Christ. I believe, it's a part of God's plan that all of humanity is reconciled back to God, in the end. This is due to God's grace. However, while we're here, we are to live by the law of Christ. If we don't, there will be temporary punishment for those who disobey and mistreat others. Their reconciliation comes after their punishment. All just my humble opinion, ofcourse:) |
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IMHO, there is a misunderstanding of what 'believing in Jesus' means, as well as a misunderstanding, among some, that a person has to be a Christian in order to enter heaven. There are a lot of things in the bible, but not all things in the bible are applicable now. Especially, since Jesus discarded the law of Moses as being a necessary set of commands. Only the law of Christ is applicable for humanity now. All of humanity, not just anyone who calls themselves a Christian. IMHO, God is not concerned with religious labels and/or affiliations. He's more concerned with whether a person does what his law requires. That person could be a Christian or not. If you're a Christian and you fail to do what the law requires, then you will suffer punishment for disobedience and the title of 'Christian' will have no saving power, as it is irrelevant if you've lived a life of disobedience to the law of Christ. I believe, it's a part of God's plan that all of humanity is reconciled back to God, in the end. This is due to God's grace. However, while we're here, we are to live by the law of Christ. If we don't, there will be temporary punishment for those who disobey and mistreat others. Their reconciliation comes after their punishment. All just my humble opinion, ofcourse:) we are to live by the law of Christ. If we don't, there will be temporary punishment for those who disobey and mistreat others. Their reconciliation comes after their punishment. .... temporary punishment for those who disobey and mistreat others. Ummm, what temporary punishment? |
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well...Christianity doesn't work....I have been a Christian for over 40 years...(maybe not in ur definition) but the truth is...Christianity does not work...and ...if I might add..it was never intended to...
this is one of the problems with the modern day perspective... most believe that that doing brings results...but doing brings Glory to God...that's it...that's the intent... ok...u have heard all the Christian "message" I'm sure..so u get the idea..Christ came..to buy us back from sin...price payed..we win... now as long as we live in a world controlled by another force.. life will not be fair...kind...generous...just...or free... but faith tells me..it will be worth it all...in the end... best thing...I give u the freedom to chose..for yourself...please allow me the same freedom.....:-) |
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if Christianity doesn't work..
well then it's going to get , awfully hot around here..  
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Misharmony, it comes from the gospels in the King James bible. By the way, Jesus did not die for our sins. That makes no sense. In one of his parables he talks about this; the prophets were sent but no one listened. So god sent Jesus to sort things out. Jesus' message is loud and clear. It's right there in the gospels. He who has ears, let him hear. he who has eyes, let him read,,, Peter 3:18 For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit, John 2:2 He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world. Isiah 53:5 But he was wounded for our transgressions; he was crushed for our iniquities; upon him was the chastisement that brought us peace, and with his stripes we are healed. |
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