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Topic: IRS: So Our Computer Crashed
alleoops Joined Sat 08/06/11 Posts: 10832	Fri 06/13/14 03:30 PM Edited by alleoops on Fri 06/13/14 03:35 PM
IRS: So Our Computer Crashed And Erased All Of Lois Lerner’s Emails The Internal Revenue Service (IRS) claimed Friday that it cannot produce Lois Lerner’s emails to and from the White House and other administration departments due to a supposed computer crash. The IRS previously agreed to hand over all of the ex-IRS official’s emails from 2009 to 2011 to the House Ways and Means Committee, chaired by Rep. Dave Camp. But the IRS claimed Friday that it has Lerner’s emails to and from other IRS officials but it cannot produce emails to and from the Treasury and Justice Departments, the Federal Election Commission, or Democratic offices. The IRS’ computer crash may go down in history next to the eighteen and a half minute gap in the Watergate tapes, which was supposedly caused by a mistake by Richard Nixon’s secretary Rose Mary Woods. “The fact that I am just learning about this, over a year into the investigation, is completely unacceptable and now calls into question the credibility of the IRS’s response to Congressional inquiries,” Camp said in a statement. “There needs to be an immediate investigation and forensic audit by Department of Justice as well as the Inspector General.” “Just a short time ago, Commissioner Koskinen promised to produce all Lerner documents,” Camp continued. “It appears now that was an empty promise. Frankly, these are the critical years of the targeting of conservative groups that could explain who knew what when, and what, if any, coordination there was between agencies. Instead, because of this loss of documents, we are conveniently left to believe that Lois Lerner acted alone. This failure of the IRS requires the White House, which promised to get to the bottom of this, to do an Administration-wide search and production of any emails to or from Lois Lerner. The Administration has repeatedly referred us back to the IRS for production of materials. It is clear that is wholly insufficient when it comes to determining the full scope of the violation of taxpayer rights.”

Sojourning_Soul Joined Fri 02/13/09 Posts: 10767	Fri 06/13/14 04:00 PM Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Fri 06/13/14 04:12 PM
IRS: So Our Computer Crashed And Erased All Of Lois Lerner’s Emails The Internal Revenue Service (IRS) claimed Friday that it cannot produce Lois Lerner’s emails to and from the White House and other administration departments due to a supposed computer crash. The IRS previously agreed to hand over all of the ex-IRS official’s emails from 2009 to 2011 to the House Ways and Means Committee, chaired by Rep. Dave Camp. But the IRS claimed Friday that it has Lerner’s emails to and from other IRS officials but it cannot produce emails to and from the Treasury and Justice Departments, the Federal Election Commission, or Democratic offices. The IRS’ computer crash may go down in history next to the eighteen and a half minute gap in the Watergate tapes, which was supposedly caused by a mistake by Richard Nixon’s secretary Rose Mary Woods. “The fact that I am just learning about this, over a year into the investigation, is completely unacceptable and now calls into question the credibility of the IRS’s response to Congressional inquiries,” Camp said in a statement. “There needs to be an immediate investigation and forensic audit by Department of Justice as well as the Inspector General.” “Just a short time ago, Commissioner Koskinen promised to produce all Lerner documents,” Camp continued. “It appears now that was an empty promise. Frankly, these are the critical years of the targeting of conservative groups that could explain who knew what when, and what, if any, coordination there was between agencies. Instead, because of this loss of documents, we are conveniently left to believe that Lois Lerner acted alone. This failure of the IRS requires the White House, which promised to get to the bottom of this, to do an Administration-wide search and production of any emails to or from Lois Lerner. The Administration has repeatedly referred us back to the IRS for production of materials. It is clear that is wholly insufficient when it comes to determining the full scope of the violation of taxpayer rights.” Sure! Get the WH or Holder to investigate themselves and their corrupt cronies! Lerner has to be innocent....she said so! And Clinton will confess to her Benghazi phuck up too! Bush did it! What difference does it make? We all know how honest liberals are! Just look at the list! Obozo Clinton Kerry Reid Hagle Cummings Rangle Piglozi Frankenstein Franken Chambliss Such honest angelic souls

alleoops Joined Sat 08/06/11 Posts: 10832	Fri 06/13/14 04:09 PM
IRS: So Our Computer Crashed And Erased All Of Lois Lerner’s Emails The Internal Revenue Service (IRS) claimed Friday that it cannot produce Lois Lerner’s emails to and from the White House and other administration departments due to a supposed computer crash. The IRS previously agreed to hand over all of the ex-IRS official’s emails from 2009 to 2011 to the House Ways and Means Committee, chaired by Rep. Dave Camp. But the IRS claimed Friday that it has Lerner’s emails to and from other IRS officials but it cannot produce emails to and from the Treasury and Justice Departments, the Federal Election Commission, or Democratic offices. The IRS’ computer crash may go down in history next to the eighteen and a half minute gap in the Watergate tapes, which was supposedly caused by a mistake by Richard Nixon’s secretary Rose Mary Woods. “The fact that I am just learning about this, over a year into the investigation, is completely unacceptable and now calls into question the credibility of the IRS’s response to Congressional inquiries,” Camp said in a statement. “There needs to be an immediate investigation and forensic audit by Department of Justice as well as the Inspector General.” “Just a short time ago, Commissioner Koskinen promised to produce all Lerner documents,” Camp continued. “It appears now that was an empty promise. Frankly, these are the critical years of the targeting of conservative groups that could explain who knew what when, and what, if any, coordination there was between agencies. Instead, because of this loss of documents, we are conveniently left to believe that Lois Lerner acted alone. This failure of the IRS requires the White House, which promised to get to the bottom of this, to do an Administration-wide search and production of any emails to or from Lois Lerner. The Administration has repeatedly referred us back to the IRS for production of materials. It is clear that is wholly insufficient when it comes to determining the full scope of the violation of taxpayer rights.” Sure! Get the WH or Holder to investigate themselves and their corrupt cronies! Lerner has to be innocent....she said so! And Clinton will confess to her Benghazi phuck up too! Bush did it! What difference does it make? We all know how honest liberals are Doesn't the FBI know how to retrieve erased files? Bet that ain't gonna happen.

alnewman Joined Sat 12/14/13 Posts: 4009	Fri 06/13/14 04:22 PM
IRS: So Our Computer Crashed And Erased All Of Lois Lerner’s Emails The Internal Revenue Service (IRS) claimed Friday that it cannot produce Lois Lerner’s emails to and from the White House and other administration departments due to a supposed computer crash. The IRS previously agreed to hand over all of the ex-IRS official’s emails from 2009 to 2011 to the House Ways and Means Committee, chaired by Rep. Dave Camp. But the IRS claimed Friday that it has Lerner’s emails to and from other IRS officials but it cannot produce emails to and from the Treasury and Justice Departments, the Federal Election Commission, or Democratic offices. The IRS’ computer crash may go down in history next to the eighteen and a half minute gap in the Watergate tapes, which was supposedly caused by a mistake by Richard Nixon’s secretary Rose Mary Woods. “The fact that I am just learning about this, over a year into the investigation, is completely unacceptable and now calls into question the credibility of the IRS’s response to Congressional inquiries,” Camp said in a statement. “There needs to be an immediate investigation and forensic audit by Department of Justice as well as the Inspector General.” “Just a short time ago, Commissioner Koskinen promised to produce all Lerner documents,” Camp continued. “It appears now that was an empty promise. Frankly, these are the critical years of the targeting of conservative groups that could explain who knew what when, and what, if any, coordination there was between agencies. Instead, because of this loss of documents, we are conveniently left to believe that Lois Lerner acted alone. This failure of the IRS requires the White House, which promised to get to the bottom of this, to do an Administration-wide search and production of any emails to or from Lois Lerner. The Administration has repeatedly referred us back to the IRS for production of materials. It is clear that is wholly insufficient when it comes to determining the full scope of the violation of taxpayer rights.” And the IRS never runs back-up tapes for archiving, sure.

alnewman Joined Sat 12/14/13 Posts: 4009	Fri 06/13/14 04:24 PM
IRS: So Our Computer Crashed And Erased All Of Lois Lerner’s Emails The Internal Revenue Service (IRS) claimed Friday that it cannot produce Lois Lerner’s emails to and from the White House and other administration departments due to a supposed computer crash. The IRS previously agreed to hand over all of the ex-IRS official’s emails from 2009 to 2011 to the House Ways and Means Committee, chaired by Rep. Dave Camp. But the IRS claimed Friday that it has Lerner’s emails to and from other IRS officials but it cannot produce emails to and from the Treasury and Justice Departments, the Federal Election Commission, or Democratic offices. The IRS’ computer crash may go down in history next to the eighteen and a half minute gap in the Watergate tapes, which was supposedly caused by a mistake by Richard Nixon’s secretary Rose Mary Woods. “The fact that I am just learning about this, over a year into the investigation, is completely unacceptable and now calls into question the credibility of the IRS’s response to Congressional inquiries,” Camp said in a statement. “There needs to be an immediate investigation and forensic audit by Department of Justice as well as the Inspector General.” “Just a short time ago, Commissioner Koskinen promised to produce all Lerner documents,” Camp continued. “It appears now that was an empty promise. Frankly, these are the critical years of the targeting of conservative groups that could explain who knew what when, and what, if any, coordination there was between agencies. Instead, because of this loss of documents, we are conveniently left to believe that Lois Lerner acted alone. This failure of the IRS requires the White House, which promised to get to the bottom of this, to do an Administration-wide search and production of any emails to or from Lois Lerner. The Administration has repeatedly referred us back to the IRS for production of materials. It is clear that is wholly insufficient when it comes to determining the full scope of the violation of taxpayer rights.” Sure! Get the WH or Holder to investigate themselves and their corrupt cronies! Lerner has to be innocent....she said so! And Clinton will confess to her Benghazi phuck up too! Bush did it! What difference does it make? We all know how honest liberals are Doesn't the FBI know how to retrieve erased files? Bet that ain't gonna happen. Yeah, go down to the vault and pick up the backup tapes.

metalwing Joined Fri 11/14/08 Posts: 26218	Thu 06/19/14 08:44 PM
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/380444/dog-ate-my-e-mails-two-years-john-fund Perfect way to get out of your Taxes,tell the IRS that your Computer ate your Tax-records for the last two years! How true!

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Fri 06/20/14 03:33 AM Edited by Conrad_73 on Thu 06/19/14 07:31 PM
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/380444/dog-ate-my-e-mails-two-years-john-fund Perfect way to get out of your Taxes,tell the IRS that your Computer ate your Tax-records for the last two years!

alleoops Joined Sat 08/06/11 Posts: 10832	Fri 06/20/14 01:09 PM
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/380444/dog-ate-my-e-mails-two-years-john-fund Perfect way to get out of your Taxes,tell the IRS that your Computer ate your Tax-records for the last two years! Time to dump the IRS.

Dodo_David Joined Fri 08/13/10 Posts: 48948	Fri 06/20/14 01:44 PM
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/380444/dog-ate-my-e-mails-two-years-john-fund Perfect way to get out of your Taxes,tell the IRS that your Computer ate your Tax-records for the last two years! Time to dump the IRS. It is way past time to dump the IRS.

Sojourning_Soul Joined Fri 02/13/09 Posts: 10767	Sun 06/22/14 04:42 AM
The IRS Had a Contract With an Email Backup Company The Internal Revenue Service (IRS) said it can't provide emails sent between 2009 and 2011 that were requested by congressional investigators because of hard drive crashes. The agency said that emails stored on dead drives were lost forever because its email backup tapes were recycled every six months, and employees were responsible for keeping their own long-term archives. The IRS had a contract with email backup service vendor Sonasoft starting in 2005, according to FedSpending.org, which lists the contract as being for "automatic data processing services." Sonasoft's motto is "email archiving done right," and the company lists the IRS as a customer. http://reason.com/blog/2014/06/20/the-irs-had-a-contract-with-an-email-bac?fb_action_ids=880772241952237&fb_action_types=og.likes

alleoops Joined Sat 08/06/11 Posts: 10832	Sun 06/22/14 08:12 AM
The IRS Had a Contract With an Email Backup Company The Internal Revenue Service (IRS) said it can't provide emails sent between 2009 and 2011 that were requested by congressional investigators because of hard drive crashes. The agency said that emails stored on dead drives were lost forever because its email backup tapes were recycled every six months, and employees were responsible for keeping their own long-term archives. The IRS had a contract with email backup service vendor Sonasoft starting in 2005, according to FedSpending.org, which lists the contract as being for "automatic data processing services." Sonasoft's motto is "email archiving done right," and the company lists the IRS as a customer. http://reason.com/blog/2014/06/20/the-irs-had-a-contract-with-an-email-bac?fb_action_ids=880772241952237&fb_action_types=og.likes I'll bet the justice department is scrambling to get any backup tapes.

BlissfulPanther Joined Sat 11/09/13 Posts: 53	Mon 06/23/14 09:51 PM
Lois Lerner....what a bum. Yeah, Obama sure had to twist her arm big time to get her to attack fellow citizens from the other party. Not to mention....you do not get to tell your side then plead the fifth. That's not how it works. Last thought....they can't keep a hold of emails....because they threw out several supposedly crashed computers.....but we trust them to keep our healthcare information protected??? Gads!

Mortman Joined Tue 05/01/12 Posts: 1735	Mon 06/23/14 11:35 PM Edited by Mortman on Mon 06/23/14 11:37 PM
It was only one hard drive in the investigation that crashed, and they retrieved most of the missing emails from the senders or recipients within the agency. If you think missing emails are so rare, then how do you explain the missing emails in nearly every investigation that the Bush Administration was ever involved in? Think Cheney ever turned over all the emails subpoenaed from him? Nope. They just went missing. The man had a half dozen closet-sized safes for storing the printed emails (and other files) but they couldn't be bothered to turn everything over for the waterboarding investigation. But now Con's cannot imagine a single hard drive failure in a government agency for which they're tripping over themselves to cut the budget. Surprise. You guys crack me up.

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Tue 06/24/14 12:45 AM Edited by Conrad_73 on Tue 06/24/14 12:49 AM
It was only one hard drive in the investigation that crashed, and they retrieved most of the missing emails from the senders or recipients within the agency. If you think missing emails are so rare, then how do you explain the missing emails in nearly every investigation that the Bush Administration was ever involved in? Think Cheney ever turned over all the emails subpoenaed from him? Nope. They just went missing. The man had a half dozen closet-sized safes for storing the printed emails (and other files) but they couldn't be bothered to turn everything over for the waterboarding investigation. But now Con's cannot imagine a single hard drive failure in a government agency for which they're tripping over themselves to cut the budget. Surprise. You guys crack me up. so,where are them Mails? Or did Dog finally got them anyway? You crack me up! BTW,so,since they retrieved those Mails,how come she went to Congress and told them that Dog ate her Mails? Seems she is just a habitual Liar like most of Obama's Appointees!

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Tue 06/24/14 12:53 AM Edited by Conrad_73 on Tue 06/24/14 12:58 AM
http://benswann.com/congressman-stockman-introduces-bill-to-grant-taxpayers-same-excuse-as-irs/ The resolution may be cited as the "Dog Ate My Tax Receipts Resolution". Expressing the sense of the House of Representatives that the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) must allow taxpayers the same lame excuses for missing documentation that the IRS itself is currently proffering Whereas, the IRS claims that convenient, unexplained, miscellaneous computer malfunction is sufficient justification not to produce specific, critical documentation; and, Whereas, fairness and Due Process demand that the American taxpayer be granted no less latitude than we afford the bureaucrats employed presently at the IRS; Now, therefore, be it resolved that it is the sense of the House of Representatives that unless and until the Internal Revenue Service produces all documentation demanded by subpoena or otherwise by the House of Representatives, or produces an excuse that passes the red face test, All taxpayers shall be given the benefit of the doubt when not producing critical documentation, so long as the taxpayer's excuse therefore falls into one of the following categories: 1. The dog ate my tax receipts 2. Convenient, unexplained, miscellaneous computer malfunction 3. Traded documents for five terrorists 4. Burned for warmth while lost in the Yukon 5. Left on table in Hillary's Book Room 6. Received water damage in the trunk of Ted Kennedy's car 7. Forgot in gun case sold to Mexican drug lords 8. Forced to recycle by municipal Green Czar 9. Was short on toilet paper while camping 10. At this point, what difference does it make? In any case, IRS can see the NSA for a good, high quality copy.

Sojourning_Soul Joined Fri 02/13/09 Posts: 10767	Tue 06/24/14 05:30 AM Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Tue 06/24/14 05:32 AM
It was only one hard drive in the investigation that crashed, and they retrieved most of the missing emails from the senders or recipients within the agency. If you think missing emails are so rare, then how do you explain the missing emails in nearly every investigation that the Bush Administration was ever involved in? Think Cheney ever turned over all the emails subpoenaed from him? Nope. They just went missing. The man had a half dozen closet-sized safes for storing the printed emails (and other files) but they couldn't be bothered to turn everything over for the waterboarding investigation. But now Con's cannot imagine a single hard drive failure in a government agency for which they're tripping over themselves to cut the budget. Surprise. You guys crack me up. How's that koolaid? Must be sweet! You're drooling on yourself again.....

Mortman Joined Tue 05/01/12 Posts: 1735	Tue 06/24/14 01:37 PM
How's that koolaid? Must be sweet! You're drooling on yourself again..... Ha ha. Yeah, that's a funny one. The kool aid crack again. Brilliant. The crashed hard drive was reported way before the investigation ever started. This isn't a simple 'dog ate the homework' thing. It's a fishing expedition conflicting with technological reality.

Mortman Joined Tue 05/01/12 Posts: 1735	Tue 06/24/14 01:42 PM
You crack me up! BTW,so,since they retrieved those Mails,how come she went to Congress and told them that Dog ate her Mails? Seems she is just a habitual Liar like most of Obama's Appointees! The retrieved emails are a result of cross-matching emails sent/retrieved from other drives. For example, if I send you an email and my computer subsequent gets destroyed, you would probably still have that same email. Since the emails sought for the investigation were those sent around the Government, then other government machines (also being subpoenaed) often have those emails. Have you ever forwarded or replied to an email? It's very common to include the previous message in-line on the same message, including time, date and names. Can you please try to keep up?

alleoops Joined Sat 08/06/11 Posts: 10832	Tue 06/24/14 02:37 PM
It was only one hard drive in the investigation that crashed, and they retrieved most of the missing emails from the senders or recipients within the agency. If you think missing emails are so rare, then how do you explain the missing emails in nearly every investigation that the Bush Administration was ever involved in? Think Cheney ever turned over all the emails subpoenaed from him? Nope. They just went missing. The man had a half dozen closet-sized safes for storing the printed emails (and other files) but they couldn't be bothered to turn everything over for the waterboarding investigation. But now Con's cannot imagine a single hard drive failure in a government agency for which they're tripping over themselves to cut the budget. Surprise. You guys crack me up. How many investigations were made into the Bush Administration? And how many for Cheney? A half dozen closet-sized safes for storing the printed emails (and other files)? Never heard of those please enlighten us with more of you astute wisdom.

1956deluxe Joined Thu 12/06/07 Posts: 8559	Tue 06/24/14 02:39 PM
Get to the core of the issue: Conservatives are angry about the IRS close scrutiny of some political groups 501(c)(4) status. IRS 501(c)(4) generally requires civic organizations described in that section to be "operated exclusively for the promotion of social welfare". Treasury regulations interpretion is that the organization "is operated PRIMARILY for the purpose of bringing about civic betterments and social improvements". As a result, the IRS traditionally has permitted organizations described in IRC 501(c)(4) to engage in lobbying and political campaign activities IF those activities are NOT the organization's PRIMARY ACTIVITY. My question is, why are we not ANGRY that many of these political groups are TAX EXEMPT? The primary reason many of them exist is for political purposes. We really need to get all the money out of political campaigns.