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Topic: Som serious things to consider about the Prisoner Swap
Lpdon's photo
Mon 06/02/14 02:43 AM
Edited by Lpdon on Mon 06/02/14 02:43 AM

Everyone is celebrating the release of Army Sergeant Bowe Bergdahl, and we’re glad he’ll be home with his family in Idaho soon.

However, there are questions that must be answered – like, why did the young Soldier walk off his Forward Operating Base (FOB) back in 2009? It’s not the modus operandi for Islamic terrorists to detain American troops when captured, as we reported previously. Our troops are brutally, ritually, and savagely murdered — to include American security contractors (remember the Fallujah bridge) — not held for five years.

And to have this “deal” brokered in Qatar (supporters of the Muslim Brotherhood) calls for even more questions.

What we do know are the identities of the five Afghan Taliban who were released.

According to a report in the Weekly Standard, they are five of the most dangerous Taliban commanders in U.S. custody. The Taliban has long demanded that the “Gitmo 5” be released in order for peace talks to begin in earnest. The Obama administration has desperately sought to engage the Taliban as American forces are drawn down in Afghanistan, but those talks have gone nowhere to this point.

You see, when you’re not comfortable talking in terms of war and victory, you lose the battle of ideas and resolve. I want no part of peace with savages who throw acid on and gun down young girls going to school. I would prefer to crush them and kill them wherever they exist. That’s not being a warmonger. It’s being a realist.

The Weekly Standard reports that the freed detainees are among the Taliban’s top commanders in U.S. custody and are still revered in jihadist circles. Two of the five have been wanted by the UN for war crimes. And because of their prowess, Joint Task Force-Guantanamo (JTF-GTMO) deemed all five of them “high” risks to the U.S. and its allies. The Obama administration wants to convince the Taliban to abandon its longstanding alliance with al-Qaida. But these men contributed to the formation of that relationship in the first place. All five had close ties to al-Qaida well before the 9/11 attacks. Therefore, it is difficult to see how their freedom would help the Obama administration achieve one of its principal goals for the hoped-for talks.

This represents another of Obama’s unilateral actions because there was no consult with Congress. If one of these five beasts ends up being responsible for the deaths of a single American, the blood will be clearly on President Obama’s hands. Furthermore, there is a Marine Sergeant, Andrew Tahmooressi, who is just south of the border held illegally. Obama already freed some 36,000 criminal illegal immigrants — that should suffice as a trade to have SGT Tahmooressi come home.

Here are short bios for each of the five Taliban commanders. All quotes are drawn from declassified and leaked documents prepared at Guantanamo.

Mullah Mohammad Fazl (Taliban army chief of staff): Fazl is “wanted by the UN for possible war crimes including the murder of thousands of Shiites.” Fazl “was associated with terrorist groups currently opposing U.S. and Coalition forces including al-Qaida, Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan (IMU), Hezb-e-Islami Gulbuddin (HIG), and an Anti-Coalition Militia group known as Harakat-i-Inqilab-i-Islami.” In addition to being one of the Taliban’s most experienced military commanders, Fazl worked closely with a top al-Qaida commander named Abdul Hadi al Iraqi, who headed al-Qaida’s main fighting unit in Afghanistan prior to 9/11 and is currently detained at Guantanamo.

Mullah Norullah Noori (senior Taliban military commander): Like Fazl, Noori is “wanted by the United Nations (UN) for possible war crimes including the murder of thousands of Shiite Muslims.” Beginning in the mid-1990s, Noori “fought alongside al-Qaida as a Taliban military general, against the Northern alliance.” He continued to work closely with al-Qaida in the years that followed.

Abdul Haq Wasiq (Taliban deputy minister of intelligence): Wasiq arranged for al-Qaida members to provide crucial intelligence training prior to 9/11. The training was headed by Hamza Zubayr, an al-Qaida instructor who was killed during the same September 2002 raid that netted Ramzi Binalshibh, the point man for the 9/11 operation. Wasiq “was central to the Taliban’s efforts to form alliances with other Islamic fundamentalist groups to fight alongside the Taliban against U.S. and Coalition forces after the 11 September 2001 attacks,” according to a leaked JTF-GTMO threat assessment.

Khairullah Khairkhwa (Taliban governor of the Herat province and former interior minister): Khairkhwa was the governor of Afghanistan’s westernmost province prior to 9/11. In that capacity, he executed sensitive missions for Mullah Omar, including helping to broker a secret deal with the Iranians. For much of the pre-9/11 period, Iran and the Taliban were bitter foes. But a Taliban delegation that included Kharikhwa helped secure Iran’s support for the Taliban’s efforts against the American-led coalition in late 2001. JTF-GTMO found that Khairkhwa was likely a major drug trafficker and deeply in bed with al-Qaida. He allegedly oversaw one of Osama bin Laden’s training facilities in Herat.

Mohammed Nabi (senior Taliban figure and security official): Nabi “was a senior Taliban official who served in multiple leadership roles.” Nabi “had strong operational ties to Anti-Coalition Militia (ACM) groups including al-Qaida, the Taliban, the Haqqani Network, and the Hezb-e-Islami Gulbuddin (HIG), some of whom remain active in ACM activities.” Intelligence cited in the JTF-GTMO files indicates that Nabi held weekly meetings with al-Qaida operatives to coordinate attacks against U.S.-led forces.

We are sending a very dangerous message. Welcome home SGT Bergdahl, but I am concerned about the five released and why you abandoned your duty station.

Read more at http://allenbwest.com/2014/06/amidst-celebrations-bergdahls-release-serious-questions/#564ZyKjySSTWPgMi.99

I am glad he is home, but I have some concerns....... Why did he walk off? What about severe Stockholm Syndrome, and the US doesn't negotiate with terrorists. President Reagan and President Lincoln are rolling over in their graves right now.

We should have gone in and got hi the old fashioned way, gone in and kicked a$$. We knew what part of Pakistan he was in.

Anyone else realize the timing of this? What are the odd's that the parents were on a preplanned trip to Washington DC like they said when they found out. Why is this happening so close to the elections where the Democrats are in serious trouble.

Toungetitan's photo
Mon 06/02/14 04:21 AM
Im also glad for Sergeant Bowe coming home but how it came possible is quite disturbing. And since when did America start negotiating with terrorist? Kickn @zz has been the only policy in circumstances like this. Obama just working on another tatic to deceive the American people like he did the first time he was elected. If he isnt ousted, he will be the final blow to the destruction and down fall of America. We've been crumbling slowly but I warn you all Obama is about to deploy the wrecking ball. If any body thought the battles we fought for freedom in years past were bad, they arent even gonna compare to the battle that coming just for the right to exsist.

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Mon 06/02/14 07:24 AM

At the end of his term Obozos' legacy to America will be.....






Conrad_73's photo
Mon 06/02/14 08:10 AM


Everyone is celebrating the release of Army Sergeant Bowe Bergdahl, and we’re glad he’ll be home with his family in Idaho soon.

However, there are questions that must be answered – like, why did the young Soldier walk off his Forward Operating Base (FOB) back in 2009? It’s not the modus operandi for Islamic terrorists to detain American troops when captured, as we reported previously. Our troops are brutally, ritually, and savagely murdered — to include American security contractors (remember the Fallujah bridge) — not held for five years.

And to have this “deal” brokered in Qatar (supporters of the Muslim Brotherhood) calls for even more questions.

What we do know are the identities of the five Afghan Taliban who were released.

According to a report in the Weekly Standard, they are five of the most dangerous Taliban commanders in U.S. custody. The Taliban has long demanded that the “Gitmo 5” be released in order for peace talks to begin in earnest. The Obama administration has desperately sought to engage the Taliban as American forces are drawn down in Afghanistan, but those talks have gone nowhere to this point.

You see, when you’re not comfortable talking in terms of war and victory, you lose the battle of ideas and resolve. I want no part of peace with savages who throw acid on and gun down young girls going to school. I would prefer to crush them and kill them wherever they exist. That’s not being a warmonger. It’s being a realist.

The Weekly Standard reports that the freed detainees are among the Taliban’s top commanders in U.S. custody and are still revered in jihadist circles. Two of the five have been wanted by the UN for war crimes. And because of their prowess, Joint Task Force-Guantanamo (JTF-GTMO) deemed all five of them “high” risks to the U.S. and its allies. The Obama administration wants to convince the Taliban to abandon its longstanding alliance with al-Qaida. But these men contributed to the formation of that relationship in the first place. All five had close ties to al-Qaida well before the 9/11 attacks. Therefore, it is difficult to see how their freedom would help the Obama administration achieve one of its principal goals for the hoped-for talks.

This represents another of Obama’s unilateral actions because there was no consult with Congress. If one of these five beasts ends up being responsible for the deaths of a single American, the blood will be clearly on President Obama’s hands. Furthermore, there is a Marine Sergeant, Andrew Tahmooressi, who is just south of the border held illegally. Obama already freed some 36,000 criminal illegal immigrants — that should suffice as a trade to have SGT Tahmooressi come home.

Here are short bios for each of the five Taliban commanders. All quotes are drawn from declassified and leaked documents prepared at Guantanamo.

Mullah Mohammad Fazl (Taliban army chief of staff): Fazl is “wanted by the UN for possible war crimes including the murder of thousands of Shiites.” Fazl “was associated with terrorist groups currently opposing U.S. and Coalition forces including al-Qaida, Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan (IMU), Hezb-e-Islami Gulbuddin (HIG), and an Anti-Coalition Militia group known as Harakat-i-Inqilab-i-Islami.” In addition to being one of the Taliban’s most experienced military commanders, Fazl worked closely with a top al-Qaida commander named Abdul Hadi al Iraqi, who headed al-Qaida’s main fighting unit in Afghanistan prior to 9/11 and is currently detained at Guantanamo.

Mullah Norullah Noori (senior Taliban military commander): Like Fazl, Noori is “wanted by the United Nations (UN) for possible war crimes including the murder of thousands of Shiite Muslims.” Beginning in the mid-1990s, Noori “fought alongside al-Qaida as a Taliban military general, against the Northern alliance.” He continued to work closely with al-Qaida in the years that followed.

Abdul Haq Wasiq (Taliban deputy minister of intelligence): Wasiq arranged for al-Qaida members to provide crucial intelligence training prior to 9/11. The training was headed by Hamza Zubayr, an al-Qaida instructor who was killed during the same September 2002 raid that netted Ramzi Binalshibh, the point man for the 9/11 operation. Wasiq “was central to the Taliban’s efforts to form alliances with other Islamic fundamentalist groups to fight alongside the Taliban against U.S. and Coalition forces after the 11 September 2001 attacks,” according to a leaked JTF-GTMO threat assessment.

Khairullah Khairkhwa (Taliban governor of the Herat province and former interior minister): Khairkhwa was the governor of Afghanistan’s westernmost province prior to 9/11. In that capacity, he executed sensitive missions for Mullah Omar, including helping to broker a secret deal with the Iranians. For much of the pre-9/11 period, Iran and the Taliban were bitter foes. But a Taliban delegation that included Kharikhwa helped secure Iran’s support for the Taliban’s efforts against the American-led coalition in late 2001. JTF-GTMO found that Khairkhwa was likely a major drug trafficker and deeply in bed with al-Qaida. He allegedly oversaw one of Osama bin Laden’s training facilities in Herat.

Mohammed Nabi (senior Taliban figure and security official): Nabi “was a senior Taliban official who served in multiple leadership roles.” Nabi “had strong operational ties to Anti-Coalition Militia (ACM) groups including al-Qaida, the Taliban, the Haqqani Network, and the Hezb-e-Islami Gulbuddin (HIG), some of whom remain active in ACM activities.” Intelligence cited in the JTF-GTMO files indicates that Nabi held weekly meetings with al-Qaida operatives to coordinate attacks against U.S.-led forces.

We are sending a very dangerous message. Welcome home SGT Bergdahl, but I am concerned about the five released and why you abandoned your duty station.

Read more at http://allenbwest.com/2014/06/amidst-celebrations-bergdahls-release-serious-questions/#564ZyKjySSTWPgMi.99

I am glad he is home, but I have some concerns....... Why did he walk off? What about severe Stockholm Syndrome, and the US doesn't negotiate with terrorists. President Reagan and President Lincoln are rolling over in their graves right now.

We should have gone in and got hi the old fashioned way, gone in and kicked a$$. We knew what part of Pakistan he was in.

Anyone else realize the timing of this? What are the odd's that the parents were on a preplanned trip to Washington DC like they said when they found out. Why is this happening so close to the elections where the Democrats are in serious trouble.


The whole thing smells to high heaven!

no photo
Mon 06/02/14 08:15 AM
Smells like a leaderless nation.sick

Conrad_73's photo
Mon 06/02/14 08:33 AM
Hussein Barack Obama,AKA "Inept the First"!

Dodo_David's photo
Mon 06/02/14 11:53 AM

Hussein Barack Obama,AKA "Inept the First"!


Nah. Carter was "Inept the First". :tongue:

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Mon 06/02/14 01:50 PM
5 high level terrorist for one idiot Sergent?

That makes about as much sense as Barry being president based on his political experience.

If he walked off on his own, he deserted.

Makes more sense, if he was abducted, to attempt a rescue.

Then again, Hussein said it."He will stand with the Muslims."

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Mon 06/02/14 02:07 PM
Hope no one minds me commenting because I'm British.
But I do wonder if it will make the Taliban go after American troops even more.
For everyone they capture they'll get 5 set free. Just a thought.

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Mon 06/02/14 05:34 PM

Hope no one minds me commenting because I'm British.
But I do wonder if it will make the Taliban go after American troops even more.
For everyone they capture they'll get 5 set free. Just a thought.

Great point.

I believe you'd make a much wiser leader than the jackass in charge.

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Mon 06/02/14 06:50 PM


Hope no one minds me commenting because I'm British.
But I do wonder if it will make the Taliban go after American troops even more.
For everyone they capture they'll get 5 set free. Just a thought.

Great point.

I believe you'd make a much wiser leader than the jackass in charge.


One speaks while wearing a pink TuTu.laugh

willing2's photo
Mon 06/02/14 07:27 PM



Hope no one minds me commenting because I'm British.
But I do wonder if it will make the Taliban go after American troops even more.
For everyone they capture they'll get 5 set free. Just a thought.

Great point.

I believe you'd make a much wiser leader than the jackass in charge.


One speaks while wearing a pink TuTu.laugh

You're just jealous.
I can send you one like it.
We could dance as twins.

Back to subject.

Makes not one lick of sense trading one, much less five high crime terrorist for one grunt that may have deserted.

metalwing's photo
Mon 06/02/14 07:28 PM

Hope no one minds me commenting because I'm British.
But I do wonder if it will make the Taliban go after American troops even more.
For everyone they capture they'll get 5 set free. Just a thought.


"We hold these truths to be self evident..."

Mortman's photo
Mon 06/02/14 10:51 PM

5 high level terrorist for one idiot Sergent?

That makes about as much sense as Barry being president based on his political experience.

If he walked off on his own, he deserted.

Makes more sense, if he was abducted, to attempt a rescue.

Then again, Hussein said it."He will stand with the Muslims."

Makes a lot more sense than the deal President Reagan made with Iran, and Iran actually did round up more hostages. Sergeant Bergdahl was the only known POW, and the DoD was working on ways to defuse the animosity in that region, while dumping the detainees we're holding.

Just what makes you think those five guys are all that high level, and even if they are, they've been away from the fight for years. Probably not all that valuable, anymore.

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Tue 06/03/14 12:20 AM


5 high level terrorist for one idiot Sergent?

That makes about as much sense as Barry being president based on his political experience.

If he walked off on his own, he deserted.

Makes more sense, if he was abducted, to attempt a rescue.

Then again, Hussein said it."He will stand with the Muslims."

Makes a lot more sense than the deal President Reagan made with Iran, and Iran actually did round up more hostages. Sergeant Bergdahl was the only known POW, and the DoD was working on ways to defuse the animosity in that region, while dumping the detainees we're holding.

Just what makes you think those five guys are all that high level, and even if they are, they've been away from the fight for years. Probably not all that valuable, anymore.

If you wish in one Hand.................

Immense propaganda-value I'd say!

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Tue 06/03/14 05:02 AM



5 high level terrorist for one idiot Sergent?

That makes about as much sense as Barry being president based on his political experience.

If he walked off on his own, he deserted.

Makes more sense, if he was abducted, to attempt a rescue.

Then again, Hussein said it."He will stand with the Muslims."

Makes a lot more sense than the deal President Reagan made with Iran, and Iran actually did round up more hostages. Sergeant Bergdahl was the only known POW, and the DoD was working on ways to defuse the animosity in that region, while dumping the detainees we're holding.

Just what makes you think those five guys are all that high level, and even if they are, they've been away from the fight for years. Probably not all that valuable, anymore.

If you wish in one Hand.................

Immense propaganda-value I'd say!

I suppose mortimer will defend oButtma at all costs. Even if it means supporting terrorists who target Americans. Very patriotic.

I haven't ridden a bicycle in 20 years. I got on one yesterday and rode like I did when I was a teen.

Not only are these CRIMINAL, MURDERING, TERRORISTS high level, they are also wanted in war crimes.


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Interesting little tidbit about this so-called hero.

Fellow soldiers call Bowe Bergdahl a deserter, not a hero

The sense of pride expressed by officials of the Obama administration at the release of Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl is not shared by many of those who served with him, veterans and soldiers who call him a deserter whose "selfish act" ended up costing the lives of better men.

"I was pissed off then, and I am even more so now with everything going on," said former Sgt. Matt Vierkant, a member of Bergdahl's platoon when he went missing on June 30, 2009. "Bowe Bergdahl deserted during a time of war, and his fellow Americans lost their lives searching for him."

Vierkant said Bergdahl needs to not only acknowledge his actions publicly but face a military trial for desertion under the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

If I was in charge, I'd give them back. In pieces, shipped separately.

Video included.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/01/us/bergdahl-deserter-or-hero/

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Tue 06/03/14 05:11 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Tue 06/03/14 05:31 AM


5 high level terrorist for one idiot Sergent?

That makes about as much sense as Barry being president based on his political experience.

If he walked off on his own, he deserted.

Makes more sense, if he was abducted, to attempt a rescue.

Then again, Hussein said it."He will stand with the Muslims."

Makes a lot more sense than the deal President Reagan made with Iran, and Iran actually did round up more hostages. Sergeant Bergdahl was the only known POW, and the DoD was working on ways to defuse the animosity in that region, while dumping the detainees we're holding.

Just what makes you think those five guys are all that high level, and even if they are, they've been away from the fight for years. Probably not all that valuable, anymore.


You mean like our ex presidents we support for life even tho they might only serve 4 years?

Vets are forgotten and abused tho! What a system!

One of those released before, under the same conditions, was killed in Syria last week fighting for Al Qaeda..... but they don't return to battle again....right?

Maybe someone should have told Ghandi, or Nelson Mandela their power ends after years in prison

It was the Taliban who made the choices for trade and our liar in chief agreed..... but he was calling the shots! rofl

We traded 5 blood thirsty known terrorists for a deserter who converted to Islam, stated Americans were a heartless bunch before deserting, and now coming back to the states.....

Guess that makes sense to Idiot liberals! slaphead

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Tue 06/03/14 05:44 PM

You mean like our ex presidents we support for life even tho they might only serve 4 years?

Vets are forgotten and abused tho! What a system!

One of those released before, under the same conditions, was killed in Syria last week fighting for Al Qaeda..... but they don't return to battle again....right?

Maybe someone should have told Ghandi, or Nelson Mandela their power ends after years in prison

It was the Taliban who made the choices for trade and our liar in chief agreed..... but he was calling the shots! rofl

We traded 5 blood thirsty known terrorists for a deserter who converted to Islam, stated Americans were a heartless bunch before deserting, and now coming back to the states.....

Guess that makes sense to Idiot liberals! slaphead


You forgot about the part where he has spent the last five years training as a terrorist and training terrorist to make bombs. So not only do we release five high level Al Qaeda, but we are now payibg to transport an Al Qaeda trained terrorist into our midst. Wonder what his mission will be? Is he going to be given flight training? Oh wait, his specialty is bombs!!!

That was one heck of a video though, Odumbo press conference with the traitors dad, speaking in Arabic for the English speaking public's benefit. I thought for a minute Odumbo was going to answer back but he just leads his new terrorist friend away into the White House where the prayer rugs were stored. Didn't Odumbo point toward Mecca?

Lpdon's photo
Wed 06/04/14 01:29 AM

Im also glad for Sergeant Bowe coming home but how it came possible is quite disturbing. And since when did America start negotiating with terrorist? Kickn @zz has been the only policy in circumstances like this. Obama just working on another tatic to deceive the American people like he did the first time he was elected. If he isnt ousted, he will be the final blow to the destruction and down fall of America. We've been crumbling slowly but I warn you all Obama is about to deploy the wrecking ball. If any body thought the battles we fought for freedom in years past were bad, they arent even gonna compare to the battle that coming just for the right to exsist.


They now have grounds to impeach him. Under a law that HE signed, Congress has to be notified at least 30 days before ANY Gitmo prisoner is released.


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Wed 06/04/14 01:31 AM


At the end of his term Obozos' legacy to America will be.....








Nothing a drone strike or a Gitmo Bath (Which CIA Director Leon Panetta slipped up and said that it was how interrogators first obtained the currier).

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