a successful country?

can it be measured with quantifiable values like least amount of debt, least debt-gdp, most productivity, least unemployment

or is it more dependent upon the unquantifiable, freedoms, happiness, health,,,etc,,,?


can we look at other countries who meet whichever factor(s) we think is significant and figure out how they are achieving those goals and duplicate it? or maybe modify it so it works in our culture?

what do you think is a successful country?

A Country where Government keeps it's Grubby Paws mainly to itself!

I like what Kenneth Clark holds to in his book/TV series Civilisation

I think its immeasurable really, how many countrymen around the globe think theirs is the greatest?

but for me a great country is one with great people and I like what Marley says about greatness

Hope and change, with affordable healthcare.
Who could ask for anything more?

In order to answer that question, we have the know the purpose of a nation's existence.

ok, that's another way to ask the question.


what is the purpose of a country? given that how well the purpose is met is the measure of the success,,,

A nations purpose is to re-distribute the wealth so that those that don't want to work, get benefits from those that do work.

and they can all eat genetically altered food and drive cars with methanol fuels that cost more to produce than gasoline.

That in and of itself is a contradiction. Government is said to come from French but then French is a derivative of Latin, so I prefer the Latin root, same start, different end.

Government comes from the term govern. From Old French governer, derived from Latin gubernare "to direct, rule, guide, govern; and -ment(a/um) does actually derive from the same root as Latin mens/ment- "mind".

This is where the US has gone astray, using a loose term for a new prospect as this constitutionally limited republic. What was really defined within the document was an administration to administer the affairs of the people to insure their general welfare.

But by deeming something as "government" invites that most dishonorable of professions, lawyers, to engulf the functions of statesmen into that vile character of politician into the craft of "controlling the mind".

After a couple of centuries you have a mass of mindless idiots running around thinking they live in a democracy and that politicians are leaders.

Much can be said for the craft of "government" as practiced by the dubious characters of little integrity much less morality, but none of it of a positive nature.

where public servants really do serve the people

a country with a unified national sense of moral and manifest purpose

a country that respects lawful diversity and simply respects the rule of law

where people ask not what my country can do for me but what can I do for my country

a country that needs limited or no welfare state as expectations are higher than that

well, that aint gonna happen

Why not, a man of real integrity. Somewhere between 11 to 18 kids, 3 with his wife, somewhere between 7 to 12 other women.

Says a lot for the definition of integrity and thus the extension to a great country. From that we come to understand the concept of Odumbo and that "hope and change" are just words, nothing really implied.

One thing can be said for Obuma, he doesn't plagiarize others. All of his lies are his own.

Another "ad hominem" attack, beware.

To even think this would perhaps beg the word, but to actually verbalize it, well that is lame. To actually state that one needs to be told the purpose of ones existence, is just beyond apprehension. But then to extend that reprehensible thought to encompass an entire nation, beyond belief.

But alas, this is the sorry state of affairs of the world today. The ignorant masses waiting to be told why and how they should exist. Proclaiming beyond any doubt of any ambition beyond base animal instincts but without the animal instinct of taking action to provide for itself.

You give him way too much credit, he is but the mouth.

u r absolutely right,a successful country is that which is economically military sound ,and least unemployments,and far ahead in every field and also other countries etc

does the definition of integrity depend upon who states it?


can those who lived promiscuous youths not understand what monogamy is?

can those who lived inebriated youths not understand what sobriety is?