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Topic: What Democrats Don't Want You To See
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Mon 05/26/14 09:05 PM
Edited by Lpdon on Mon 05/26/14 09:06 PM


They left out a Republican President sending Special Forces into Arkansas so African American students could go to school after the Democrat Governor ordered the Nation Guard to not let the African American students in. So what did President Eisenhower do? Federalized the National Guard and sent them back to base.

Not to mention Democrats had very High Ranking Clan Member in both Congress and the Senate, and a Democratic President played a Pro Clan Movie at the White House, Birth of a Nation and praised the movie afterwards.

Democrats were also the party of Jim Crow and fought to keep it in place until the Republicans took them out. The Republican's went just doing it looking at the African American's as future voters, they did it because it's the right thing to do. The only reason the Democrats finally switched their policy is to use it to get votes. In the words of LBJ "We will have those Ni**ers voting Democrat for the next two hundred years.

Republicans have facts, Democrats have spin.

msharmony's photo
Mon 05/26/14 11:25 PM
Republicans have spin, pretending the party of the 1800s is the same party of today,,,,



Lpdon's photo
Mon 05/26/14 11:39 PM

Republicans have spin, pretending the party of the 1800s is the same party of today,,,,





It is the same party. That why the Democrats fought Jim Crow, and had active clan members and senior raking clan members in their ranks.

All's you are trying to do is put the basic Liberal spin on it when the Democrats were the party of bigotry, evil, hatred, the Klan. Hell up until two years ago they had a high ranking Klans man in the Senate, good old Robert Byrd, the Grand Cyclops of the KKK himself.

There is no way you can say it's not the same party. Abraham Lincoln founded it and we still live by the same principles he founded the party on today.

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Mon 05/26/14 11:49 PM
actually abraham started the DEMOCRATIC REPUBLICAN party, and during that era there were also unionists, and non unionists, and dixiecrats

the whole system has evolved and changed from what it was,,,into the two party system it now is

with dixiecrats voting republican and the south (mason/dixon) becoming republican territory,,,,

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Tue 05/27/14 05:16 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Tue 05/27/14 05:35 AM


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Tue 05/27/14 05:30 AM









msharmony's photo
Tue 05/27/14 10:19 AM












Dodo_David's photo
Tue 05/27/14 11:23 AM
There is a reason why I am a registered Independent (and a moderate, too).

I believe that both major political parties in the USA are royally messed up.

msharmony's photo
Tue 05/27/14 12:56 PM
I think the parties are made of people

and the same people would be there whatever political label they chose and no matter how many labels they chose to have,,,,,,



Lpdon's photo
Sat 05/31/14 10:44 PM

actually abraham started the DEMOCRATIC REPUBLICAN party, and during that era there were also unionists, and non unionists, and dixiecrats

the whole system has evolved and changed from what it was,,,into the two party system it now is

with dixiecrats voting republican and the south (mason/dixon) becoming republican territory,,,,


You need to read up on history my dear. Lincoln was the FOUNDER of the Republican Party, EVERYONE including the Democrats know that.

BTW, Dixiecrats, were Liberal practically radically Liberal. Also Robert Byrd wasn't a Dixiecrat, he was a DEMOCRAT.

Lpdon's photo
Sat 05/31/14 10:59 PM

There is a reason why I am a registered Independent (and a moderate, too).

I believe that both major political parties in the USA are royally messed up.


I am getting more upset with my party every day. If it went back to the party of Lincoln and Reagan I would be one happy guy.

I will never change my status because I am a Republican, but I will fight from the inside to help modernize my party. We need to adapt with the times and get over the gay marriage and abortion and infighting BS and get back to focusing on matters that really matter, national security, the economy, taking care of our veterans, illegal immigration.

Reagan famously proclaimed that a Republican should never attack another Republican and we had a united party. Now we have one side the McCain, McConnell, and Graham side and then we have the Bush, Cruz, Rubio side. I personally am so mad at Senator McCain, but I will NEVER talk bad about him no mater how bad a law maker he is. He is a man who sacrificed more for this country then a lot of people in Washington, unfortunately those sacrifices have started to catch up with him over the past 10-15 years and he needs to retire and spend time with his family and relaxing.

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Sat 05/31/14 11:06 PM
Edited by msharmony on Sat 05/31/14 11:11 PM
The Republican Party name was christened in an editorial written by New York newspaper magnate Horace Greeley. Greeley printed in June 1854: "We should not care much whether those thus united (against slavery) were designated 'Whig,' 'Free Democrat' or something else; though we think some simple name like 'Republican' would more fitly designate those who had united to restore the Union to its true mission of champion and promulgator of Liberty rather than propagandist of slavery."


the label wasn't as solid, they also answered to 'democrat' at the time


but politics evolves and changes, as do people,,,





ON PALESTINE:
The GOP opposed a Palestinian state as late as 1992, went silent on the issue for eight years, then endorsed the idea in its past two planks.


ON GLOBAL WARMING: Republicans acknowledged global warming and boasted of efforts to commit billions of federal dollars to finding solutions. The party then spent two election cycles saying there was too much '��scientific uncertainty'�� before accepting in 2008 that humans have a role in altering the climate.


ON BEING 'LIBERAL': The 1960 plank, for example, touts '��progressive Republican policies'�� such as '��liberal pay'�� and says the
government '��must be truly progressive as an employer'��


From the 1960s to 2008, platforms liberally criticize '��liberals'�� but '��conservative'�� is used almost exclusively to refer to judges.


ON VOTING RIGHTS: In the 1960s and ��70s, the party positions itself as a strong advocate for D.C. voting rights, in the Senate as well as the House. Then, in 1980, all mention of voting rights vanishes; the subject has not appeared since.


ON ABORTION: Abortion '��is undoubtedly a moral and personal issue'�� on which Republicans disagree, the 1976 plank says.

Four years later, the issue has been settled: The GOP seeks a constitutional amendment protecting '��the right to life for unborn children.'�� By 1992, the platform includes a call to appoint judges who oppose abortion.

ON RELIGION AND MORALS: The 1960 plank says nothing about religion; four years later, '��faith'�� is one of the most frequently used words, along with '��heritage'�� and '��freedom.'��

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/gop-platform-through-the-years-shows-partys-shift-from-moderate-to-conservative/2012/08/28/09094512-ed70-11e1-b09d-07d971dee30a_story.html

the political parties have changed along with American culture,,, its no more the same republican or democratic party than it is the same America,,,


with the exception that we still have the powerful and the power enabling,,,,







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Sat 05/31/14 11:12 PM
Founded in the Northern states in 1854 by anti-slavery activists, modernizers, ex-Whigs, and ex-Free Soilers, the Republican Party quickly became the principal opposition to the dominant Southern Democratic Party and the briefly popular Know Nothing Party. The main cause was opposition to the Kansas–Nebraska Act, which repealed the Missouri Compromise by which slavery was kept out of Kansas. The Northern Republicans saw the expansion of slavery as a great evil. The first public meeting where the name "Republican" was suggested for a new anti-slavery party was held on March 20, 1854 in a schoolhouse in Ripon, Wisconsin. The name was partly chosen to pay homage to Thomas Jefferson's Republican Party.

The first official party convention was held on July 6, 1854, in Jackson, Michigan. By 1858, the Republicans dominated nearly all Northern states. The Republican Party first came to power in 1860 with the election of Lincoln to the Presidency and Republicans in control of Congress and again, the Northern states. It oversaw the saving of the union, the end of slavery, and the provision of equal rights to all men in the American Civil War and Reconstruction, 1861–1877.

The Republicans' initial base was in the Northeast and the upper Midwest. With the realignment of parties and voters in the Third Party System, the strong run of John C. Fremont in the 1856 Presidential election demonstrated it dominated most northern states.

Early Republican ideology was reflected in the 1856 slogan "free labor, free land, free men", which had been coined by Salmon P. Chase, a Senator from Ohio (and future Secretary of the Treasury and Chief Justice of the United States).[14] "Free labor" referred to the Republican opposition to slave labor and belief in independent artisans and businessmen. "Free land" referred to Republican opposition to plantation system whereby slaveowners could buy up all the good farm land, leaving the yeoman independent farmers the leftovers. The Party strived to contain the expansion of slavery, which would cause the collapse of the slave power and the expansion of freedom.

Lincoln, representing the fast-growing western states, won the Republican nomination in 1860 and subsequently won the presidency. The party took on the mission of saving the Union and destroying slavery during the American Civil War and over Reconstruction.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_(United_States)#Founding_and_19th_century

Says nothing about the Democratic-Republican party. You are just repeating Dailykos talking points.

msharmony's photo
Sat 05/31/14 11:35 PM
and brittanica, and Princeton, and gilder lehrman,,,,

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/498833/Democratic-Republican-Party


http://www.princeton.edu/~achaney/tmve/wiki100k/docs/Democratic%E2%80%93Republican_Party.html

http://www.gilderlehrman.org/history-by-era/early-republic/timeline-terms/democratic-republican-party

BlissfulPanther's photo
Sun 06/01/14 12:27 AM
Exactly....

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Sun 06/01/14 12:30 AM
It always amazes me that people hate one party so avidly yet uphold their own. On the political spectrum....Democrat is about six idea differences away from Republican....they are side by side in the larger scheme of things. ... And BOTH parties are a mess! By the way, just because there is a MEME out there, it doesn't mean it's right.

Lpdon's photo
Sun 06/01/14 02:19 AM

It always amazes me that people hate one party so avidly yet uphold their own. On the political spectrum....Democrat is about six idea differences away from Republican....they are side by side in the larger scheme of things. ... And BOTH parties are a mess! By the way, just because there is a MEME out there, it doesn't mean it's right.


Not even close,not to mention MOST of their differences are major. Dems like Big Government and out of control spending, like to cut our military, they are weak on national security and are cowards and love to let criminals into the country illegally and want to keep them here. They want serial killers and monsters to not pay for their hideous crimes,




Sojourning_Soul's photo
Sun 06/01/14 05:21 AM

The ignorance is in thinking there is a difference between either party in our current political clown car system!


msharmony's photo
Sun 06/01/14 05:22 AM

It always amazes me that people hate one party so avidly yet uphold their own. On the political spectrum....Democrat is about six idea differences away from Republican....they are side by side in the larger scheme of things. ... And BOTH parties are a mess! By the way, just because there is a MEME out there, it doesn't mean it's right.


I agree. Both parties have millions of individuals which belong to them and they certainly aren't identical in all their priorities and values. The party platforms have small differences technically, but for me, its hearing what the representatives of those parties SAY and DO and speaking with those party members in everyday life, that cause me to lean more towards and register as Democrat.



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Sun 06/01/14 06:42 AM

There is a reason why I am a registered Independent (and a moderate, too).

I believe that both major political parties in the USA are royally messed up.


How does one "register" as an independent or a moderate?

Please provide a link so all independents and moderates can register.

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