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Topic: How about a Real Negro American for President? Yes!
willing2 Joined Sun 06/08/08 Posts: 20221	Mon 05/19/14 03:04 PM
Constitutional conservative, Lt. Col. Allen West, former congressman from Florida, tells Ben Shapiro on “The Morning Answer” that he’s seriously considering a 2016 presidential run. If elected, West, who has rock-star status within much of the Tea Party community, would truly be the first black president, as Barack Obama’s Mother was 100% caucasian. West appeared with Shapiro on Wednesday to discuss Col. West’s new book, Guardian of the Republic. Shapiro begins the interview by complimenting West on his new book, but states that, “it also looks a lot like a possible campaign book,” while alluding to the “very strong rumors” that West may be considering running for president in 2016. “Is there any truth to those rumors?” Shapiro asks. It’s frustrating when talk show hosts continually ask potential candidates about their political aspirations this time of year, realizing that 99% of the time, the politician avoids giving a direct answer, but this time there was actually an answer that wasn’t a waste of time. “Well look, the thing is this,” West began. “As I was still on the motorcycle ride across the country, and wherever we’d stop, fuel stop, overnight stop, people would come up and they would ask me that question. And it would be very disrespectful and dismissive of great Americans if I did not step back and take the time to consider it and pray about it and talk over it with close confidants,” West explained, indicating that a presidential run is definitely something he’s seriously considering. “Am I considering it? Yes, I’m considering it,” West confirmed. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBmT8O5PL1g http://www.tpnn.com/2014/05/16/could-allen-west-be-americas-first-black-president/ No more LyinKenyans. Mr West can be verified.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Mon 05/19/14 04:09 PM Edited by msharmony on Mon 05/19/14 04:11 PM
lol who is trying to define what 'real' negro is,,,? lol Cain was 'real' negro too (according to him), and they really wanted him,, till they didn't,,,, Id rather see Cornel West run, and have no doubt whatsoever he wouldn't win either,, not on the republican ticket,,,,closest they will get is maybe latina or Hispanic,,,,

Dodo_David Joined Fri 08/13/10 Posts: 48926	Mon 05/19/14 07:06 PM
Technically, President Obama is the first mixed-race POTUS. Also, President Obama is an American by birth. He was born in the state of Hawaii.

Troubled Joined Sat 12/22/07 Posts: 295	Mon 05/19/14 07:10 PM
Technically, President Obama is the first mixed-race POTUS. Also, President Obama is an American by birth. He was born in the state of Hawaii. Link?

Dodo_David Joined Fri 08/13/10 Posts: 48926	Mon 05/19/14 07:14 PM
Technically, President Obama is the first mixed-race POTUS. Also, President Obama is an American by birth. He was born in the state of Hawaii. Link? Dude, President Obama's place of birth has been talked about by the media for the last 6 years. His birth in Hawaii has been confirmed over and over.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Mon 05/19/14 07:16 PM
actually, I don't think he is the first 'mixed race' as that implies more than one race In the direct lineage he is though, the first with a PARENT FROM WEST AFRICA (a first degree negro relation, based upon census definition of negro) , making him the first BLACK president or the first with that DIRECT of a link to west Africa,,,

Dodo_David Joined Fri 08/13/10 Posts: 48926	Mon 05/19/14 07:24 PM Edited by Dodo_David on Mon 05/19/14 07:24 PM
actually, I don't think he is the first 'mixed race' as that implies more than one race In the direct lineage His mother was clearly Caucasian. So, yes, he is mixed-race, although he is also the first with a direct ancestral link to the continent of Africa.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Mon 05/19/14 07:24 PM Edited by msharmony on Mon 05/19/14 07:26 PM
actually, I don't think he is the first 'mixed race' as that implies more than one race In the direct lineage His mother was clearly Caucasian. So, yes, he is mixed-race. I understand that. I don't believe he is the ONLY President who had more than one race in his background, making him not the FIRST with that distinction and he certainly isn't the first with a white mother what makes him distinct is having a parent from WEST AFRICA, or a NEGRO,,,, that is a first.

Dodo_David Joined Fri 08/13/10 Posts: 48926	Mon 05/19/14 07:27 PM
actually, I don't think he is the first 'mixed race' as that implies more than one race In the direct lineage His mother was clearly Caucasian. So, yes, he is mixed-race. I understand that. I don't believe he is the ONLY President who had more than one race in his background, making him not the FIRST with that distinction and he certainly isn't the first with a white mother what makes him distinct is having a parent from WEST AFRICA, or a NEGRO,,,, that is a first. That I agree with. Either way, President Obama was still born in the USA.

alleoops Joined Sat 08/06/11 Posts: 10832	Mon 05/19/14 07:48 PM Edited by alleoops on Mon 05/19/14 07:49 PM
No matter where he comes from, he is clearly a mixed race, consummate liar. My vote goes to Dr. Alan Keyes.

alnewman Joined Sat 12/14/13 Posts: 4009	Tue 05/20/14 03:26 PM
Technically, President Obama is the first mixed-race POTUS. Also, President Obama is an American by birth. He was born in the state of Hawaii. Not really, by choice. A choice at his coming of age.

alnewman Joined Sat 12/14/13 Posts: 4009	Tue 05/20/14 03:26 PM
lol who is trying to define what 'real' negro is,,,? lol Cain was 'real' negro too (according to him), and they really wanted him,, till they didn't,,,, Id rather see Cornel West run, and have no doubt whatsoever he wouldn't win either,, not on the republican ticket,,,,closest they will get is maybe latina or Hispanic,,,, Is there any limit to your debauchery? Allen West is a real man that just happens to have darkly pigmented skin, a black man to be exact. But to try and instill some sort of "little black sambo" racism is just pure slander. I may not see eye to eye with many things West stands for, I have the utmost respect of him as a man, one that stands straight with his head held high. And I also have to say that Cain was a man, an idiot, but a man. More than be said of Odumbo and his crowd of thieves.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Tue 05/20/14 03:36 PM
my my, me thinks thou dost protest too much,,,, who mentioned anything about a 'black sambo'? debauchery? because I would like to see cornel west run? interesting.

Dodo_David Joined Fri 08/13/10 Posts: 48926	Tue 05/20/14 04:21 PM
Technically, President Obama is the first mixed-race POTUS. Also, President Obama is an American by birth. He was born in the state of Hawaii. Not really, by choice. A choice at his coming of age.

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Tue 05/20/14 04:45 PM
Technically, President Obama is the first mixed-race POTUS. Also, President Obama is an American by birth. He was born in the state of Hawaii. Not really, by choice. A choice at his coming of age. they mixed up the two Fathers,that's all! Obama instead of Marshall!

alnewman Joined Sat 12/14/13 Posts: 4009	Tue 05/20/14 04:45 PM
Technically, President Obama is the first mixed-race POTUS. Also, President Obama is an American by birth. He was born in the state of Hawaii. Link? Sure, not the one that is stated, but the obverse: Vattel: The Law of Nations: Book I � 212. Citizens and natives. The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country. Natural Born Citizen Defined The Founding Fathers of the United States, used Vattel's Laws of Nations as their guide and reference to meanings and definitions within our Constitution. The myth that the founding of American Republic was based on the philosophy of John Locke could only have been maintained, because the history of Leibniz's influence was suppressed. The American Revolution was, in fact, a battle against the philosophy of Locke and the English utilitarians. Key to this struggle, was the work of the Eighteenth-century jurist, Emmerich de Vattel, whose widely read text, The Law of Nations, guided the framing of the United States as the world's first constitutional republic. Vattel had challenged the most basic axioms of the Venetian party, which had taken over England before the time of the American Revolution, and it was from Vattel's The Law of Nations, more than anywhere else, that America's founders learned the Leibnizian natural law, which became the basis for the American System. Benjamin Franklin's (a signer of our Constitution) letter to Charles W.F. Dumas, December 1775 "I am much obliged by the kind present you have made us of your edition of Vattel. It came to us in good season, when the circumstances of a rising state make it necessary frequently to consult the Law of Nations. Accordingly, that copy which I kept (after depositing one in our own public library here, and send the other to the College of Massachusetts Bay, as you directed) has been continually in the hands of the members of our congress, now sitting, who are much pleased with your notes and preface, and have entertained a high and just esteem for their author"? And if you read through this book you will recognize many of the things mentioned by the founders, both in the constitution and their papers such as Ben Franklin's that has been quoted. But the imminent danger to the constitution came with the original 13th Article that required but one signature to become the 13th Amendment that was interceded by the War of 1812, that conveniently was supposedly in the White House when it was burned, sort of like 9/11 and building 7 full of some problem bonds. After the war, there was a hot debate on it's passage and Virginia immediately ratified it but the rules where changed as one of the first major usurpation of the constitution, and the rest they say, is history. This country has been under attack by England and the royalist since it's inception, but none more dangerous than the BAR association which has as members every branch of government, both state and federal.

alnewman Joined Sat 12/14/13 Posts: 4009	Tue 05/20/14 04:52 PM
Technically, President Obama is the first mixed-race POTUS. Also, President Obama is an American by birth. He was born in the state of Hawaii. Link? Dude, President Obama's place of birth has been talked about by the media for the last 6 years. His birth in Hawaii has been confirmed over and over. Where has it been confirmed? If it is so obvious, why are the records still sealed? All there has ever been is a document of dubious authenticity. The brain dead accept that without having to have it proved. If there is no problem, then why are the records not available? But that is really immaterial anyway, with his mother American, he has the right to claim citizenship but that does not bestow "natural" born citizen as his father was a British subject and so was Odumbo until his eighteenth birthday when he could accept being a US citizen after denouncing any loyalty to England, period.

Dodo_David Joined Fri 08/13/10 Posts: 48926	Tue 05/20/14 04:55 PM
The U.S. Supreme Court defined "natural born citizen" in the SCOTUS case of United States v. Wong Kim Ark. According to that SCOTUS decision, President Obama is indeed a natural born U.S. citizen because he was born in the USA.

alnewman Joined Sat 12/14/13 Posts: 4009	Tue 05/20/14 05:11 PM Edited by alnewman on Tue 05/20/14 05:19 PM
actually, I don't think he is the first 'mixed race' as that implies more than one race In the direct lineage he is though, the first with a PARENT FROM WEST AFRICA (a first degree negro relation, based upon census definition of negro) , making him the first BLACK president or the first with that DIRECT of a link to west Africa,,, Really, then what about this report that the black element came from his mother? Inside the Obama (Who’s Your Daddy?) Conspicuous Theory Is this Odumbo's real daddy? Or is this his daddy? And why all the controversy and misdirection when all could be resolved by opening records or even a simple DNA test. The real truth of the matter is that this is just another slap in the face of the constitution just to show what they can get away with. Now if West were to be elected, would he bring this issue to a head and make the truth known? I believe he would, therefore he will never get elected, not as long as the red and blue team concept remains.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Tue 05/20/14 05:15 PM
there is no duty for anyone to prove who their parents were beyond what is on their birth certificate I cant recall a president in my lifetime who has been required to do so.