And the Dumbocrats perfected the concept, not just working for free but to steal from others to give them some change while not working at all.

I think all of them should jump on that boat, I'll volunteer to drill the holes.

I got my biach workin now

$30 for a tank of gas, are you based in reality. At first I thought maybe Dirty Harry had suckered the rest of the US to pay part of Nevada's bill but he didn't. Let's see the cheapest gas seems to be Pahrump at $3.53 with Vegas being 2 cents higher at $3.55. The average small car has a 12 gallon tank, but even a 10 gallon fill-up would be over $35. Personally, just looking at a gas station is $75.

But of course, with all that extra cast floating around and with the possible reduction in goods available due to increased unemployment, then comes inflation which by the way gas doesn't count in CPI anymore so it's rise doesn't register on the index. Won't take long till gas back to $5. Now what?

That is just the problem, very little understanding of the economy while trying to drive the economy, sort of like that idiot in the White House and that idiotic economist that he employes.

The natural law, what happens in the microcosm also happens in the macrocosm and vice versa. It is all intricately tied together and can not be separated.

The hidden tax, inflation. Impossible to avoid with fiat currency and fractional reserve banking based on debt. Without debt, the whole house of cards collapses, with debt it just takes longer to collapse but collapse is inevitable. As to inflation, when you keep injecting debt into an economy, then there is increased capital chasing the same level of goods, so everything costs more.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iP9H5fADC0E The short version.

what?

gas prices aren't determined by minimum wage,,,,,,

and Id like to see PROOF of this theory that a hike in minimum wage LEADS to some form of inflation that would affect the price of gas,,,

The theorem that one dummy ok, hooks up with second dummy and decides only one will work and they should bring a third into this world. Now it is the world's fault that things are so miserable, the one working leaves and quits working also. Now everybody must chip in, well the government does have a gun, and pay for all the dummies. Marvelous theorem, becomes even more marvelous in operation.

That is way too difficult a concept for the intended audience to conceive, after all they are entitled.

New dedication, to the new multiple 100s of millions that will be dying because of that concept.

Very true, same life increase currency in circulation, increase in inflation, same life now worse that life before.

Screw the employee, if they don't like it, seek work elsewhere. An employer only needs to be reasonable and competitive when there are few that can meet the needs of the jobs. That doesn't apply to unskilled, hence the term unskilled. Then it's either take it or leave it, next.

And it has never been nor will ever be a two way street with unskilled, there is no value to negotiate on the part of the unskilled part. They have nothing to offer that the next person in line can't offer, in fact the next in line may be skilled with no other choice, in which case would you please get out of the way so that the employer can get a keeper.

Teacher, about six years of their life getting indoctrinated on the skills of indoctrinating others. So you want the teachers pay without putting in the effort, sure you do, you're entitled.

Well you got that part right, both looking to get what they haven't earned for someone that has, both by using the coercion of the government's guns.

Yeah, I agree with you, no clue at all. That takes care of what.

So another little understood subject for a snippet, followed by the universal symbol of just laugh it off.

Proof, first you need to understand the concept of inflation. What it is and why it exists, outside of that there is not proof of anything. The whole proof is in the what and the why?

And before you can understand inflation, you would need to understand the concepts of money and value. And by this long thread and many others, that will never happen in this lifetime.

So I guess that the whole concept will just remain a mystery, at least as it pertains to you. Oh, and if by miracle you do understand inflation, money and value, then the price of gas will not need to be explained and the proof is inherent.

Thank god liberals are a dying breed..... but stupidity continues as the norm it seems

Some people just don't seem to get the fact that if wages rise, costs rise! Employers will always pass the cost of doing business along to the consumer so what do they care until that $10 burger or $9 cup of coffee doesn't fit the consumer budget any more?

what do you think Higher Prices are?
And how do you think Prices are determined?

Actually its not. Just like Sun and sun light are two different things a skill and skilled labor are two different things. Nice try though.

Wow and someone said my writing was bad but it has been more than 40 years since my last writing class, was going to do a refresher but guess I'm still ahead of most, good enough for me.

Anyhow, after reading numerous times I believe I grasp the message. Let's see, we have wiped out the small businesses because of too high a taxes.

Understanding the Small Business Credit Crunch



ROLLING BACK PROPERTY TAX PAYMENTS



So it doesn't seem to be a tax issue at all except from the "big-box" point of view, how they shaft the local community for property taxes. Now while the local governments are a pain in the butt constantly with their hands, they are more nuisances than a problem, a couple hundred dollars at best. And yes, while big boxes get a big break right from the beginning with tax rebates that aren't available to mom and pop, that still has nothing to do with wages.

The issue is the market, the small local shops that rightfully or not are perceived as overpriced and sheer size, the difference between making one stop or many. Way too big a bother for multiple stops, this entitlement generation just can't be bothered.

But that has nothing to do with wages except the concept. The big box stores hire anyone that can fog a mirror, the lowest of the skill set. That means to lowest wages possible to lower costs and keep the local mom and pop business from underselling them. But even that doesn't matter, it is just the revolving door between welfare and working, welfare until that runs out, work until enough credits for welfare, vicious circle.
But that still isn't the issue, it just begs the issue. The real issue starts with your source, the entitlement system, the system that maintains whole communities at the absolute control of government.

So now that all the trash is out of the way, just what are we talking about?

BLS: Percentage of Hourly Workers Earning Minimum Wage or Less in 2013 Falls to 4.3%



4.3% of the population, straight from the Bureau of Labor Statistics. So we wish to condemn those that have earned their place in life to earn $10 or more an hour so that those not able can get what they haven't earned, typical liberal logic, never consider consequences, they are entitled.

Actually their is nothing wrong with liberals, the old classic liberals. The problem is that those now seen as liberals aren't liberals at all, they are the radical left, the progressives.

The same could be said for the other dimension, the conservatives. The days of the classical conservative has gone the way of the classical liberal. Those now labeled "conservatives" are the neo-cons, the radical right, the fascist. I believe the Tea Party is trying to get there but they keep getting hijack by the old school statists.