Topic: DEVILS CHURCH CREATES
Wittyfactory's photo
Wed 03/05/14 02:16 AM
The worst devil among the body of Christ, has never been one monster parading like one horror movie scene; but segregation, nepotism and superiority complex mentality among believers.

Ph0nyx's photo
Wed 03/05/14 03:10 AM
The problem is that dogma (which isn't what God thinks or wants in any way provable but is made by dead human people) has put a face on God that doesn't exist. People also are widely unable to separate a religion/dogma from God. You'll even see atheists displaying God in a dogmatic format which does look like a myth or a metaphorical being. That shows that God has been manipulated to suit the religion, not to show a connection to create an understanding towards God Keep in mind of something here too... Our recently redruged up "Science VS God BS" is literally due to science conflicting with Dogma. (Mind you, science is only able to take physical readings in a physical world because Empirical data doesn't cover recording anything outside of things existing in a physical reality spectrum. It is unable to determine if God and a spirit world exists because of the perimeters it works in.) It's not God, it's dogma spewed by a religion saying that "this is God". (This is also what happens when you have too many people thinking in 2dimensions or an "Either/or" construction as opposed to a 3dimensional structure of "if/than". )

With that in mind and a large number of christian denominations in have the same mentality flaws as the main segment the splits all originated from. (The apples don't fall far from the tree however they also landed in different areas.) "Centralization of power", "It's good or evil because we say it is", "The physical world is just evil", "Our interpretation's the only one that's right", "We control the gates to heaven and you'll go to hell for not following us" all are part of Western Catholicism. They even caused a great schism in 1055 over all of that with the other 4 holy cities which make up the Orthodox Church in the East (Antioch, Jerusalem, Constantinople and Alexandria). The Western end later kicked off the Protestant denominations (Protestant Reformation started with Martin Luther and the 99 theses) who kept a varying level of the same thing going with some differentials in the denomination as to what will show out the most. In turn they broke off with each other to follow. Now couple that with many of our "bible based christianity denominations that specifically formed here in the US". They were also inspired by Hawthorn's post puritanical "HEllfire and Brimstone" speeches (So they have puritan roots in their conveyance of the bible). This brought an old testament God back into the picture but spun more "Wrathfully" (so creation of "Fear" and not "respect") while also selling the old testament as a "God approves stamp" for the religion. The loop was "it's in the bible, it's clearly good and it's from God". That's where we managed to have "Fear" replace "Respect/Understanding and being in accordance with it" as a side effect. (It all worked sort of the same way putting legal codes of Deuteronomy and Leviticus got the appearance of a God stamp on them by being in the OT. They were legal codes made to keep the early Jews alive, a society and religion alive and a population growing in the nomadic tribal semi warzone known as the Land of Canaan. Also sort of the same way you have the early Christians writing in the "God Stamp" for the NT in Jesus's words. If Jesus was refacing God from an organized religion defacing God with dogma and using it on the people for control, why would Jesus try to make an organized religion? The other Irony is that the OT laws are what God Jesus in trouble with the Sanhedrine from Judas's "Sell out move" and sent off to Pilate to ultimately be killed by Rome. Also, if you're good with Christ as the Messiah the laws of the covenant with Abraham are null. "End of the old , beginning of the New" ;)!)
So when it comes down to that form of things coming out of christianity instead of humility, a connection with God that makes sense while not harming others and also ensuring people can live while not being controlled then it's not actually anything more than intentional manipulation. Using the psychology of faith against an individual to control them can come in a few forms and in this case it's literally over interpretation of dogma with a "you're following us so you'll go to heaven" impression which leads to elitism like that. In essence, you get cheap followers who become unable to grow spiritually as beings while being unable to see past the dogma to dictate if their actions are "right". You don't get people with a personal connection to anything beyond a physical existence either but you potentially build numbers for followers this way.
So in a lot of ways your offshoots in the west have a consistent deal of the original offshoot, it just plays out differently based on society/culture, influences, how much you're removed from the original "let's bail out on this" church. Otherwise the same variables mentioned in paragraph 2 are all there in undertones and actions somehow. (You just gotta step back to see them sometimes.)


sybariticguy's photo
Wed 03/05/14 03:31 AM

The problem is that dogma (which isn't what God thinks or wants in any way provable but is made by dead human people) has put a face on God that doesn't exist. People also are widely unable to separate a religion/dogma from God. You'll even see atheists displaying God in a dogmatic format which does look like a myth or a metaphorical being. That shows that God has been manipulated to suit the religion, not to show a connection to create an understanding towards God Keep in mind of something here too... Our recently redruged up "Science VS God BS" is literally due to science conflicting with Dogma. (Mind you, science is only able to take physical readings in a physical world because Empirical data doesn't cover recording anything outside of things existing in a physical reality spectrum. It is unable to determine if God and a spirit world exists because of the perimeters it works in.) It's not God, it's dogma spewed by a religion saying that "this is God". (This is also what happens when you have too many people thinking in 2dimensions or an "Either/or" construction as opposed to a 3dimensional structure of "if/than". )

With that in mind and a large number of christian denominations in have the same mentality flaws as the main segment the splits all originated from. (The apples don't fall far from the tree however they also landed in different areas.) "Centralization of power", "It's good or evil because we say it is", "The physical world is just evil", "Our interpretation's the only one that's right", "We control the gates to heaven and you'll go to hell for not following us" all are part of Western Catholicism. They even caused a great schism in 1055 over all of that with the other 4 holy cities which make up the Orthodox Church in the East (Antioch, Jerusalem, Constantinople and Alexandria). The Western end later kicked off the Protestant denominations (Protestant Reformation started with Martin Luther and the 99 theses) who kept a varying level of the same thing going with some differentials in the denomination as to what will show out the most. In turn they broke off with each other to follow. Now couple that with many of our "bible based christianity denominations that specifically formed here in the US". They were also inspired by Hawthorn's post puritanical "HEllfire and Brimstone" speeches (So they have puritan roots in their conveyance of the bible). This brought an old testament God back into the picture but spun more "Wrathfully" (so creation of "Fear" and not "respect") while also selling the old testament as a "God approves stamp" for the religion. The loop was "it's in the bible, it's clearly good and it's from God". That's where we managed to have "Fear" replace "Respect/Understanding and being in accordance with it" as a side effect. (It all worked sort of the same way putting legal codes of Deuteronomy and Leviticus got the appearance of a God stamp on them by being in the OT. They were legal codes made to keep the early Jews alive, a society and religion alive and a population growing in the nomadic tribal semi warzone known as the Land of Canaan. Also sort of the same way you have the early Christians writing in the "God Stamp" for the NT in Jesus's words. If Jesus was refacing God from an organized religion defacing God with dogma and using it on the people for control, why would Jesus try to make an organized religion? The other Irony is that the OT laws are what God Jesus in trouble with the Sanhedrine from Judas's "Sell out move" and sent off to Pilate to ultimately be killed by Rome. Also, if you're good with Christ as the Messiah the laws of the covenant with Abraham are null. "End of the old , beginning of the New" ;)!)
So when it comes down to that form of things coming out of christianity instead of humility, a connection with God that makes sense while not harming others and also ensuring people can live while not being controlled then it's not actually anything more than intentional manipulation. Using the psychology of faith against an individual to control them can come in a few forms and in this case it's literally over interpretation of dogma with a "you're following us so you'll go to heaven" impression which leads to elitism like that. In essence, you get cheap followers who become unable to grow spiritually as beings while being unable to see past the dogma to dictate if their actions are "right". You don't get people with a personal connection to anything beyond a physical existence either but you potentially build numbers for followers this way.
So in a lot of ways your offshoots in the west have a consistent deal of the original offshoot, it just plays out differently based on society/culture, influences, how much you're removed from the original "let's bail out on this" church. Otherwise the same variables mentioned in paragraph 2 are all there in undertones and actions somehow. (You just gotta step back to see them sometimes.)


Opinions really do vary more than this.....

Wittyfactory's photo
Wed 03/05/14 06:07 AM
Thumbs up guy. How I wish church folks can get to God first hand, than trail opaque faulty dogmas

msharmony's photo
Wed 03/05/14 06:36 AM

The worst devil among the body of Christ, has never been one monster parading like one horror movie scene; but segregation, nepotism and superiority complex mentality among believers.


I think the devil is in the distortion of right and wrong

even from the beginning , mankind was easily thrown off the path by desiring to be our own God, eve wanting the knowledge of God enough to disobey or the devil himself wanting equal authority enough to turn against God


much like spoiled children, its that voice inside saying (but why not! its not fair! it doesn't hurt anyone!),,,,which is the devil we carry with us

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Wed 03/05/14 10:26 PM
I want to know how to join a satanic cult can anyone help me with that

mightymoe's photo
Wed 03/05/14 10:35 PM

I want to know how to join a satanic cult can anyone help me with that


lol...


Mississippigal2003's photo
Wed 03/05/14 10:55 PM

I want to know how to join a satanic cult can anyone help me with that
i hope ur just going for the refreshmentsdrinker

willing2's photo
Thu 03/06/14 09:30 AM

I want to know how to join a satanic cult can anyone help me with that

Why you want to be a Catholic? Got a taste for Alter Boys?

mightymoe's photo
Thu 03/06/14 09:36 AM


The worst devil among the body of Christ, has never been one monster parading like one horror movie scene; but segregation, nepotism and superiority complex mentality among believers.


I think the devil is in the distortion of right and wrong

even from the beginning , mankind was easily thrown off the path by desiring to be our own God, eve wanting the knowledge of God enough to disobey or the devil himself wanting equal authority enough to turn against God


much like spoiled children, its that voice inside saying (but why not! its not fair! it doesn't hurt anyone!),,,,which is the devil we carry with us


in order to create fear in people, they had to have an enemy for the people to be scared of, and hell was born... over the years, it became more fine tuned to convince people that you don't wanna go...

in other words, obey god or spend an eternity in a pit of fire...whoa :laughing:

msharmony's photo
Thu 03/06/14 10:27 AM
for some


for others, Gods house Gods rules , not living by Gods rules means you are not eligible to reside in Gods house

even without a hell, nothing In this temporary life is worth giving up eternal life in Gods house

CowboyGH's photo
Thu 03/06/14 03:09 PM



The worst devil among the body of Christ, has never been one monster parading like one horror movie scene; but segregation, nepotism and superiority complex mentality among believers.


I think the devil is in the distortion of right and wrong

even from the beginning , mankind was easily thrown off the path by desiring to be our own God, eve wanting the knowledge of God enough to disobey or the devil himself wanting equal authority enough to turn against God


much like spoiled children, its that voice inside saying (but why not! its not fair! it doesn't hurt anyone!),,,,which is the devil we carry with us


in order to create fear in people, they had to have an enemy for the people to be scared of, and hell was born... over the years, it became more fine tuned to convince people that you don't wanna go...

in other words, obey god or spend an eternity in a pit of fire...whoa :laughing:


Couple problems with that,
1. People can not be "scared" into believing. One has to believe first before any form of fear could enter.
2. Nobody will spend eternity in hell. Hell is destroyed and everyone in hell eg., Satan and his minions, plus the one's that did not accept the gift of life through Jesus will be thrown into the lake of fire and this is known as the second death.

mightymoe's photo
Thu 03/06/14 05:03 PM




The worst devil among the body of Christ, has never been one monster parading like one horror movie scene; but segregation, nepotism and superiority complex mentality among believers.


I think the devil is in the distortion of right and wrong

even from the beginning , mankind was easily thrown off the path by desiring to be our own God, eve wanting the knowledge of God enough to disobey or the devil himself wanting equal authority enough to turn against God


much like spoiled children, its that voice inside saying (but why not! its not fair! it doesn't hurt anyone!),,,,which is the devil we carry with us


in order to create fear in people, they had to have an enemy for the people to be scared of, and hell was born... over the years, it became more fine tuned to convince people that you don't wanna go...

in other words, obey god or spend an eternity in a pit of fire...whoa :laughing:


Couple problems with that,
1. People can not be "scared" into believing. One has to believe first before any form of fear could enter.
2. Nobody will spend eternity in hell. Hell is destroyed and everyone in hell eg., Satan and his minions, plus the one's that did not accept the gift of life through Jesus will be thrown into the lake of fire and this is known as the second death.


yea, i hate it when that happens...