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Topic: AP reports a REAL racist act
InvictusV Joined Sun 11/23/08 Posts: 5282	Sun 02/23/14 01:04 PM
racist BEHAVIOR has become more stigmatized , leading to it being less OPENLY expressed (except in anonymous venues like the internet,,lol) As I said earlier, fewer Democrats are 'OUT' with their racism, but not necessarily because fewer Democrats are racist, and there are now many more drapes for Democrats to hide behind that seem 'legitimate' and to hide the racism underneath. Occasionally a racist will openly express racism. For example ... Then there is the new racism that is occasionally expressed ... racism? maybe.. it just shows that idiots come in all colors shapes and sizes..

alnewman Joined Sat 12/14/13 Posts: 4009	Sun 02/23/14 01:09 PM
the solution is changing perceptions, changing attitudes, changing values but its very difficult to do without proper backing,,,, I find this setimint to be absolutely humorist. And to what backing would be proper? Let me guess, taxes. hmm, what 'backing' helped switch the idea of leave it to beaver or cosby, into real housewives of la or Atlanta? MONEY, private and public, funds our media and our schools, directs what is tought and promoted,, MONEY backs change and those with that money provide the BACKING for such changes to occur culturally,, money , unfortunately, is the resource which rules the world, and its cultures,, So steal from some to carry out the desires of others, others that have no stake in the game other than the scream of unfairness and demand for others to pay to correct.

alnewman Joined Sat 12/14/13 Posts: 4009	Sun 02/23/14 01:15 PM
hard for someone else to see something through my eyes isn't it? I see racism, I don't see racism in everything, seeing something EVERYWHERE , corruption, racism, Obama, lol would suggest some mental or emotional disturbance,,lol Absolutely, vision is so clouded. And I can believe the first part but absolutely doubt the second and would accept the label being aptly applied.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sun 02/23/14 01:31 PM
racist BEHAVIOR has become more stigmatized , leading to it being less OPENLY expressed (except in anonymous venues like the internet,,lol) As I said earlier, fewer Democrats are 'OUT' with their racism, but not necessarily because fewer Democrats are racist, and there are now many more drapes for Democrats to hide behind that seem 'legitimate' and to hide the racism underneath. Occasionally a racist will openly express racism. For example ... Then there is the new racism that is occasionally expressed ... like I said, the internet allows people to be more bold regardless of how they would be stigmatized in the real world for their views,,

alnewman Joined Sat 12/14/13 Posts: 4009	Sun 02/23/14 03:20 PM
racist BEHAVIOR has become more stigmatized , leading to it being less OPENLY expressed (except in anonymous venues like the internet,,lol) As I said earlier, fewer Democrats are 'OUT' with their racism, but not necessarily because fewer Democrats are racist, and there are now many more drapes for Democrats to hide behind that seem 'legitimate' and to hide the racism underneath. Occasionally a racist will openly express racism. For example ... Then there is the new racism that is occasionally expressed ... like I said, the internet allows people to be more bold regardless of how they would be stigmatized in the real world for their views,, Only by the cowards that have two different views, the one accountable for, in public and the one not accountable, on the internet. But then some have the same view irregardless and are not afraid to stand up and be counted. In the words of the immortal Nathan Hale, "I only regret that I have but one life to lose for my country." And it has come to be again, Edward Snowden, but this time from his own government. At least Nathan was hung by the British.

Dodo_David Joined Fri 08/13/10 Posts: 48948	Sun 02/23/14 05:27 PM
racist BEHAVIOR has become more stigmatized , leading to it being less OPENLY expressed (except in anonymous venues like the internet,,lol) As I said earlier, fewer Democrats are 'OUT' with their racism, but not necessarily because fewer Democrats are racist, and there are now many more drapes for Democrats to hide behind that seem 'legitimate' and to hide the racism underneath. Occasionally a racist will openly express racism. For example ... Then there is the new racism that is occasionally expressed ... like I said, the internet allows people to be more bold regardless of how they would be stigmatized in the real world for their views,, Yep, it is safer for Democrats to express their racism on the Internet than in person.

alleoops Joined Sat 08/06/11 Posts: 10832	Sun 02/23/14 06:25 PM
racist BEHAVIOR has become more stigmatized , leading to it being less OPENLY expressed (except in anonymous venues like the internet,,lol) As I said earlier, fewer Democrats are 'OUT' with their racism, but not necessarily because fewer Democrats are racist, and there are now many more drapes for Democrats to hide behind that seem 'legitimate' and to hide the racism underneath. Occasionally a racist will openly express racism. For example ... Then there is the new racism that is occasionally expressed ... like I said, the internet allows people to be more bold regardless of how they would be stigmatized in the real world for their views,, Yep, it is safer for Democrats to express their racism on the Internet than in person. All democrats or just the white ones?

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sun 02/23/14 06:33 PM
racists can be any political affiliation or race,,,

Dodo_David Joined Fri 08/13/10 Posts: 48948	Sun 02/23/14 06:41 PM
racists can be any political affiliation or race,,, Yep, and if most Americans are racists, then the Democratic Party is just as racist as the Republican Party, and Americans "of color" are just as racist as white Americans.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sun 02/23/14 06:56 PM Edited by msharmony on Sun 02/23/14 06:57 PM
racists can be any political affiliation or race,,, Yep, and if most Americans are racists, then the Democratic Party is just as racist as the Republican Party, and Americans "of color" are just as racist as white Americans. that's true but I believe that republicans have more racists who are COMFORTABE in being racist,,being from the south and allegiant to its history there is such a thing as a work in progress,,

alnewman Joined Sat 12/14/13 Posts: 4009	Sun 02/23/14 07:00 PM
racists can be any political affiliation or race,,, Yep, and if most Americans are racists, then the Democratic Party is just as racist as the Republican Party, and Americans "of color" are just as racist as white Americans. that's true but I believe that republicans have more racists who are COMFORTABE in being racist,,being from the south and allegiant to its history there is such a thing as a work in progress,, Really, and you would be referring to those KKK people?

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sun 02/23/14 07:02 PM
racists can be any political affiliation or race,,, Yep, and if most Americans are racists, then the Democratic Party is just as racist as the Republican Party, and Americans "of color" are just as racist as white Americans. that's true but I believe that republicans have more racists who are COMFORTABE in being racist,,being from the south and allegiant to its history there is such a thing as a work in progress,, Really, and you would be referring to those KKK people? no,, referring to decendants of those confederates who put their lives on the line to keep other people at a status of 'property' instead of human being,,,

Dodo_David Joined Fri 08/13/10 Posts: 48948	Sun 02/23/14 07:13 PM
but I believe that republicans have more racists who are COMFORTABE in being racist,,being from the south and allegiant to its history And some people believe that Barack Obama was born in Kenya. Your point is ...?

sweetestgirl11 Joined Fri 09/12/08 Posts: 30087	Sun 02/23/14 07:21 PM
No, the people who were racist to begin with have not changed. But they have become a lot more vocal, particularly in the last 2 years. A myopic view? Well, perhaps by your definition. However, I participate or read many discussion forums, and have done so for many years. It is disturbing to read some of the more recent postings, recent referring to the last couple of years. I also have a different perspective as I do not live in the US. While most media outlets report many of the same stories, some of these are sanitized better than others. It is most interesting that the context of racism is automatically assumed to be white versus black. This is simply NOT the case. While the posted story is an example of that very thing, there is increasing racism directed towards Hispanic and non-Christian Americans than ever before. A little effort with online searches will yield some interesting results. I noticed more reverse racism during the Obama years, the early years in particular. ...a white person who said they were plannning not to vote for him got overt and covert accusations of racism when that had nothing to do with it. I simply cannot agree at this time that whites are more racist than black Americans. It is unfortunate wherever it is found, but it's clearly found among Black Americans now.

Dodo_David Joined Fri 08/13/10 Posts: 48948	Sun 02/23/14 07:43 PM
I noticed more reverse racism during the Obama years, the early years in particular. ...a white person who said they were planning not to vote for him got overt and covert accusations of racism when that had nothing to do with it. I simply cannot agree at this time that whites are more racist than black Americans. It is unfortunate wherever it is found, but it's clearly found among Black Americans now. I am amazed at the way that some people "move the goal post" when it comes to racism. For example, I used another person's argument to demonstrate that the Democratic Party is just as racist as the Republican Party. Upon my reaching the goal post, the other person moved it by claiming "Republicans are more comfortable being racists than Democrats are". The latter claim is nothing but an example of an ad hoc fallacy.

mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 37362	Sun 02/23/14 07:56 PM
I noticed more reverse racism during the Obama years, the early years in particular. ...a white person who said they were planning not to vote for him got overt and covert accusations of racism when that had nothing to do with it. I simply cannot agree at this time that whites are more racist than black Americans. It is unfortunate wherever it is found, but it's clearly found among Black Americans now. I am amazed at the way that some people "move the goal post" when it comes to racism. For example, I used another person's argument to demonstrate that the Democratic Party is just as racist as the Republican Party. Upon my reaching the goal post, the other person moved it by claiming "Republicans are more comfortable being racists than Democrats are". The latter claim is nothing but an example of an ad hoc fallacy. no, it's an example of an opinion... are people allowed their opinions nowadays? or are they subject to ridicule like your doing here?

Dodo_David Joined Fri 08/13/10 Posts: 48948	Sun 02/23/14 08:12 PM
... are people allowed their opinions nowadays? or are they subject to ridicule like your doing here? Since when is it ridicule to point out errors in logic? My goal was to demonstrate that the Republican Party and the Democratic Party are equals when it comes to racism. As soon as I reached that goal, the goal post was moved. Why? In order to make unfalsifiable the claim that the Democratic Party is superior to the Republican Party when it comes to racism.

metalwing Joined Fri 11/14/08 Posts: 26218	Sun 02/23/14 08:19 PM
No, the people who were racist to begin with have not changed. But they have become a lot more vocal, particularly in the last 2 years. A myopic view? Well, perhaps by your definition. However, I participate or read many discussion forums, and have done so for many years. It is disturbing to read some of the more recent postings, recent referring to the last couple of years. I also have a different perspective as I do not live in the US. While most media outlets report many of the same stories, some of these are sanitized better than others. It is most interesting that the context of racism is automatically assumed to be white versus black. This is simply NOT the case. While the posted story is an example of that very thing, there is increasing racism directed towards Hispanic and non-Christian Americans than ever before. A little effort with online searches will yield some interesting results. I noticed more reverse racism during the Obama years, the early years in particular. ...a white person who said they were plannning not to vote for him got overt and covert accusations of racism when that had nothing to do with it. I simply cannot agree at this time that whites are more racist than black Americans. It is unfortunate wherever it is found, but it's clearly found among Black Americans now. It was there before. It just wasn't expressed as openly.

mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 37362	Sun 02/23/14 08:20 PM
... are people allowed their opinions nowadays? or are they subject to ridicule like your doing here? Since when is it ridicule to point out errors in logic? My goal was to demonstrate that the Republican Party and the Democratic Party are equals when it comes to racism. As soon as I reached that goal, the goal post was moved. Why? In order to make unfalsifiable the claim that the Democratic Party is superior to the Republican Party when it comes to racism. the original post: "I noticed more reverse racism during the Obama years, the early years in particular. ...a white person who said they were planning not to vote for him got overt and covert accusations of racism when that had nothing to do with it. I simply cannot agree at this time that whites are more racist than black Americans. It is unfortunate wherever it is found, but it's clearly found among Black Americans now." first words "i noticed" means she formed an opinion on what shes noticed, not subject to what you feel are errors. at no time did she say anything as fact, but what she sees and understands... again, not subject to anyone's interpretation of what they see as errors... just because you have an opinion on how balanced the racial redundancies are, does not mean everyone agrees with that...

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sun 02/23/14 08:33 PM
but I believe that republicans have more racists who are COMFORTABE in being racist,,being from the south and allegiant to its history And some people believe that Barack Obama was born in Kenya. Your point is ...? is there ever a point to pinpointing character flaws or capacity for logic to one party over another? or is it just opinions being shared?