Topic: Factual History Democrats Do Not Want Blacks To Know
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Thu 02/13/14 11:47 PM


Republican campaign consultant Scott Tranter appeared on a panel Monday hosted by the Pew Center on the States to discuss the long lines and voter ID controversies that plagued the 2012 election. In his comments, Tranter seemed to imply that he believed these issues were helpful to Republicans and should be pursued for that reason.

"A lot of us are campaign officials -- or campaign professionals -- and we want to do everything we can to help our side. Sometimes we think that's voter ID, sometimes we think that's longer lines -- whatever it may be," Tranter said with a laugh.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/10/republican-voter-id-scott-tranter_n_2273927.html

cannot PROVE that every member of the party agrees, or that it is a specific 'republican' agenda, but there is a circumstantial case to believe voter id laws were an attempt to suppress voting in favor of the republicans




republican agenda? by not having these laws and allowing the liberals to use non Americans to influence the voting, how is that republican agenda?

to bad you only got half that story, he was talking about a level playingfield... now who is spinning what?


I didn't spin anything, once again, gave a QUOTE and my opinion of it,,,

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Fri 02/14/14 12:08 AM



Republican campaign consultant Scott Tranter appeared on a panel Monday hosted by the Pew Center on the States to discuss the long lines and voter ID controversies that plagued the 2012 election. In his comments, Tranter seemed to imply that he believed these issues were helpful to Republicans and should be pursued for that reason.

"A lot of us are campaign officials -- or campaign professionals -- and we want to do everything we can to help our side. Sometimes we think that's voter ID, sometimes we think that's longer lines -- whatever it may be," Tranter said with a laugh.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/10/republican-voter-id-scott-tranter_n_2273927.html

cannot PROVE that every member of the party agrees, or that it is a specific 'republican' agenda, but there is a circumstantial case to believe voter id laws were an attempt to suppress voting in favor of the republicans




republican agenda? by not having these laws and allowing the liberals to use non Americans to influence the voting, how is that republican agenda?

to bad you only got half that story, he was talking about a level playingfield... now who is spinning what?


I didn't spin anything, once again, gave a QUOTE and my opinion of it,,,

no, you gave your opinion on half a quote...

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Fri 02/14/14 12:11 AM



the klan has had both democratic and republican members,, btw


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Fri 02/14/14 05:09 AM

By Mychal Massie on February 12, 2014 in Behind The Political Curtain

http://mychal-massie.com/premium/factual-history-democrats-do-not-want-blacks-to-know/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=factual-history-democrats-do-not-want-blacks-to-know

Here is more history that black people will not hear, and Democrats want to forget or attempt to spin into something that it isn’t. In 1872, the Republican Party Platform stated: “During eleven years of [congressional] supremacy, it [the Republican Party] has…suppressed a gigantic rebellion, emancipated four millions of slaves, directed the equal citizenship of all, and established universal suffrage [voting]. Complete liberty and exact equality in the enjoyment of all civil, political, and public rights should be established and effectually maintained throughout the Union by efficient and appropriate state and federal legislation. Neither the law nor its administration should admit any discrimination in respect of citizens by reason of African Americans, creed, color, or previous condition of servitude.” (wallbuilders.com)

That very same year, the Democrat Platform read: “We pledge ourselves to maintain the union of these states, emancipation, and enfranchisement, and to oppose any reopening of the questions settled by the 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendments of the Constitution. We demand the immediate and absolute removal of the rebellion [Civil War] which was finally subdued seven years ago, believing that universal amnesty will result in complete pacification in all sections of the country.”

That sounded good, and if you had stopped reading there you could easily have believed it was a magnanimous display of contrition. But, as it has always been with Democrats, the truth lies in their actions, not their words. “This is a false and misleading promise, for Democrats had relentlessly opposed those Amendments — and the civil rights laws based on them. Not only had Democrats stridently opposed the 13th Amendment, but not a single Democrat in Congress voted either for the 14th Amendment (declaring that former slaves were full citizens and therefore entitled to all rights and privileges of any other citizen in the state in which they lived) or the 15th Amendment (granting explicit voting rights to black Americans). In fact, in the civil rights bill of 1871 to punish the Klan violence, not one Democrat in Congress voted for that bill. The same was true with other major civil rights laws. Therefore, voting records prove this platform declaration by Democrats to be patently false.”

This part of history is discarded and miscast. In fact, the truth is that the very blacks who claim erudition are ignorant of the fact that there even was a Civil Rights Bill of 1871 that included language to punish the Klan. They regurgitate distortions and lies as verifiable facts when, as I show above, they are any but facts.

This is important history. It is history that is not discussed in the 28-day tribute to immiseration and self-imposed victimology, and you can count the public school classrooms it is taught in on probably one hand — with fingers left over.

It is a tragic and venal display of abandoning the truth for political gain on the one hand, and disavowing the truth out of a rabid desire to denounce modernity on the other.

Many blacks are victims. But they are victims of their own making and choosing. They revel in the mire of despair and antipathy. They are invidious and given to self-segregating. The brainwashing of many blacks has been complete to the point of there being a valid question as to how many save the very young can be reached with the truth.

White people are not the enemy of blacks, neither is America. Quite the opposite. Willful and wanton ignorance is the enemy of blacks. And that enemy in the mirror is cannibalizing their minds and beings. The truth is, it’s hard to rescue a drowning man because realizing they are drowning they thrash about and fight the very person(s) who would save them. Such is the analogy pursuant to blacks.

But we cannot allow that to deter the message of truth. Those of us who know the truth must share wholistically. We must realize that ours is a daunting task but a necessary one. This year is an important election year. Democrats have successfully implanted a charade (i.e., Obama), posing as a friend to blacks, when in fact, he, as the blacks in Chicago accurately pointed out after the State of the Union speech, has done nothing for anyone but himself and his cronies.

As long as the prostitution of skin color for political and personal gain, and ignorance of factual history are the rule, blacks will be susceptible to self-limitation. But we cannot allow that to silence the truth. Let’s hear them espouse that message during black history month.



But to go beyond what is here, KKK = democrats.

History Of The Democrats And The KKK.....(Why the Democrats started the KKK)

Rise of the Ku Klux Klan

But what I find absolutely hilarious....

State Sen. Stephen Martin says Democratic Party created the Ku Klux Klan

And while the absolute statement is indeed true, I love the way they try to bury the rest of the facts when so many other sources, the two above included, all point in the other direction. Well so much for fact checking by a left leaning rag.

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Fri 02/14/14 05:19 AM

MYchal Massie,, hmmmm

I find it interesting that he writes this

"As long as the prostitution of skin color for political and personal gain, and ignorance of factual history are the rule, blacks will be susceptible to self-limitation. But we cannot allow that to silence the truth. Let’s hear them espouse that message during black history month. "

as a man who makes a living writing about (usually whats 'wrong' with) blacks,,,,,


as to the rest,, political affiliation and platforms evolve,, this is no longer the 19th century

nor are the parties the mirror of those which existed then,,,,,


Really, what's changed? They lie better, sure do.

This is the same as the Odumboites that state the constitution doesn't apply to today's world as it is outdated. But other than conjecture, they provide no substantiation as the constitution was based on the propensity of man and the fallacies of government over time, a couple of millennia. Just as applicable now as them.

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Fri 02/14/14 05:19 AM



MYchal Massie,, hmmmm

I find it interesting that he writes this

"As long as the prostitution of skin color for political and personal gain, and ignorance of factual history are the rule, blacks will be susceptible to self-limitation. But we cannot allow that to silence the truth. Let’s hear them espouse that message during black history month. "

as a man who makes a living writing about (usually whats 'wrong' with) blacks,,,,,


as to the rest,, political affiliation and platforms evolve,, this is no longer the 19th century

nor are the parties the mirror of those which existed then,,,,,


so do you disagree with what he says is wrong with blacks?

and the article is about how democrats hide these facts from people now... it's not about the evolution of the dems, or what platforms anyone uses now...


on some things I agree and some I don't, like with most commentators
they aren't always wrong or always right

and I don't think democrats 'hide' anything more than republicans 'hide' by not highlighting the political system of the 19th century when promoting their 21st century agendas,,,,


Such as, anything concrete?

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Fri 02/14/14 05:20 AM

there is a circumstantial case to believe voter id laws were an attempt to suppress voting in favor of the republicans


Ah, you forgot to say "I perceive". laugh

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Fri 02/14/14 05:29 AM


and I don't think democrats 'hide' anything more than republicans 'hide' by not highlighting the political system of the 19th century when promoting their 21st century agendas,,,,


Hmm ... What might those 21st-Century agendas be?

Republicans: Equal Opportunity
Democrats: Equal Results

Republicans: A Level Playing Field
Democrats: A Tie Score, even if it means taking points earned by one team and giving them to another team.

Republicans: Encouraging the acquisition of wealth by making wise decisions and taking risks.
Democrats: Wealth re-distribution via Socialism.

Republicans: Helping minorities overcome obstacles preventing wealth acquisition.
Democrats: Promoting dependence on the government in order to overcome obstacles preventing wealth acquisition.

Republicans: Protecting the integrity of the ballot box by requiring voter ID.
Democrats: Making false claims of racism regarding why Republicans want voter ID.

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For the record, I am not a Republican. I am a moderate Independent.


What differences, the illusion of choice? Divide and conquer?

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2010/09/incumbent-campaign-fundraising-advantage-congress]Who Owns Congress - The Price of Admission to the House and Senate

Wow, in 2008 it costs on average $8.5 million to buy a Senate seat that is a 6 years job paying $174,000 a year or almost 8 times the pay to get a job. Of course their is no funny stuff going on here.

So who really owns that politician? Surely not the voters.

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Fri 02/14/14 05:41 AM

an opinion is neither true nor false

facts are true or false,,,

opinions are subjective to individual perspective



Opinions are either based on truths or lies, there is no other. If an opinion is based on lies, then it's a liars opinion. If the opinion is based on truths, then it is a truthful opinion.

Now while a personal perspective may be the base of an opinion, such as I think something is sour and you don't think it's that sour doesn't alter the truth that it has some degree of sourness.

Now while I eat spicy food at a degree that would be pain to a lot of people that thinks two shakes of black pepper is hot does not offer the truth that it is spicy, just the degree of the truth.

So yes, an opinion is either true or false, just the degree of the fact is in disagreement, the opinion.

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Fri 02/14/14 05:50 AM


I really hate how people honestly believe that blacks are so ignorant that we can't revisit what happened in the past and form a basic understanding of how it has played a role in our lives. And, let me add, it's up to us to look at the big picture while embracing where we, as a people, are now. Republics have done amazing things for black. So have democrats . . . both during specific time periods. But more importantly stop advancing the separation of races by trying exploit how much Democrats were once idiots. If something occurred in the past affected blacks then it also affected others because we are all, after all, Americans.



But why should blacks be any different than any other race. Ignorance is an inherent trait of man and doesn't change because of skin color. The right to be stupid or smart knows no racial barrier as it is an individual trait across all mankind.

What does change is the division of the races to instill friction. Another inherent trait of man, controversy.

The two political parties use both of these illusions to keep the people divided and to mask the fact that both are screwing them on the back side while we are so busy fighting to notice what they are doing.

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Fri 02/14/14 06:06 AM



an opinion is neither true nor false

facts are true or false,,,

opinions are subjective to individual perspective



skip all that, do you think it's true or false? seems like there is a lot of truth ringing around for it to be an opinion...


I think each party has individuals with different solutions for common goals

I perceive the republican party to be more a party for the upper classes to help them keep their status

and the democratic party to be more for the lower classes to help them improve their status,,,


And that opinion would contain both truth and fallacy.

The Republican party does not really represent the rich, only the nouveau rich, the middle class.

And the Democratic party, they court the lower classes to gain the power by promising free stuff they want to take from the middle class.

But the true rich could care less, they own both parties and like taking from everybody. They pay for nothing but their puppets and that has an excellent return on investment.

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Fri 02/14/14 06:18 AM

Let's face it, all political discourse is loaded with rhetoric, and it goes on and on....ad infinitum.

Bring out the BoobToob videos! laugh


Sure...

Understanding the Differences Between Democrats and Republicans - How They Segment Society

THE ILLUSION OF CHOICE OBAMA VS ROMNEY DEMOCRATS VS REPUBLICANS

Republican vs Democrat-No Difference

Need more?

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Fri 02/14/14 06:22 AM

racists and sexists aren't the exclusive population of either party

but I do BELIEVE racists will align more often with republicans than with democrats,,




Really....

KKK Terrorist Arm of the Democratic Party

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Fri 02/14/14 07:12 AM

Howey cwap! We're still tryin to ride a dead horse thinking we might get somewhere I see.


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Fri 02/14/14 08:24 AM


Howey cwap! We're still tryin to ride a dead horse thinking we might get somewhere I see.


This is the "Politics" forum.
What else would you expect to happen here? :tongue:

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Fri 02/14/14 08:39 AM


Howey cwap! We're still tryin to ride a dead horse thinking we might get somewhere I see.




Sounds like every thread in the Politics section.

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Fri 02/14/14 08:54 AM



Howey cwap! We're still tryin to ride a dead horse thinking we might get somewhere I see.




Sounds like every thread in the Politics section.


Ah, you noticed. laugh

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Fri 02/14/14 09:08 AM

Some things are worth a topic or thread, but arguing racial issues is as silly as arguing religion.

It's a personal issue, and every opinion has an opposition that trends to oblivion with no results.... unless you attach a dollar sign to it.

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Fri 02/14/14 09:10 AM


there is a circumstantial case to believe voter id laws were an attempt to suppress voting in favor of the republicans


Ah, you forgot to say "I perceive". laugh


Absolutely true on the "I perceive part", not so true on the "I forgot part".

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Fri 02/14/14 09:15 AM


Howey cwap! We're still tryin to ride a dead horse thinking we might get somewhere I see.




We are getting somewhere on that dead horse, we keep sinking a little deeper into the putrid flesh.