Topic: Factual History Democrats Do Not Want Blacks To Know
msharmony's photo
Thu 02/13/14 12:25 PM




and I don't think democrats 'hide' anything more than republicans 'hide' by not highlighting the political system of the 19th century when promoting their 21st century agendas,,,,


Hmm ... What might those 21st-Century agendas be?

Republicans: Equal Opportunity
Democrats: Equal Results

Republicans: A Level Playing Field
Democrats: A Tie Score, even if it means taking points earned by one team and giving them to another team.

Republicans: Encouraging the acquisition of wealth by making wise decisions and taking risks.
Democrats: Wealth re-distribution via Socialism.

Republicans: Helping minorities overcome obstacles preventing wealth acquisition.
Democrats: Promoting dependence on the government in order to overcome obstacles preventing wealth acquisition.

Republicans: Protecting the integrity of the ballot box by requiring voter ID.
Democrats: Making false claims of racism regarding why Republicans want voter ID.

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For the record, I am not a Republican. I am a moderate Independent.



sure sounds very anti democrat though,,

oh well, everyone is free to an opinion,,,and this is a great place to find them all,,lol


Hmm. If it is being anti-Democrat to mention the Democratic Party's goals, then plenty of Democrats are anti-Democrat. laugh


its antidemocrat to spin similar goals with selective semantics

equal opportunity vs equal results,, for example
or level vs tie
or making wise dcisons vs socialism

a lot of anti democratic 'spin',,,but consistent with anti democratic opinions,,,

mightymoe's photo
Thu 02/13/14 04:33 PM

an opinion is neither true nor false

facts are true or false,,,

opinions are subjective to individual perspective



skip all that, do you think it's true or false? seems like there is a lot of truth ringing around for it to be an opinion...

Dodo_David's photo
Thu 02/13/14 07:50 PM





and I don't think democrats 'hide' anything more than republicans 'hide' by not highlighting the political system of the 19th century when promoting their 21st century agendas,,,,


Hmm ... What might those 21st-Century agendas be?

Republicans: Equal Opportunity
Democrats: Equal Results

Republicans: A Level Playing Field
Democrats: A Tie Score, even if it means taking points earned by one team and giving them to another team.

Republicans: Encouraging the acquisition of wealth by making wise decisions and taking risks.
Democrats: Wealth re-distribution via Socialism.

Republicans: Helping minorities overcome obstacles preventing wealth acquisition.
Democrats: Promoting dependence on the government in order to overcome obstacles preventing wealth acquisition.

Republicans: Protecting the integrity of the ballot box by requiring voter ID.
Democrats: Making false claims of racism regarding why Republicans want voter ID.

***

For the record, I am not a Republican. I am a moderate Independent.



sure sounds very anti democrat though,,

oh well, everyone is free to an opinion,,,and this is a great place to find them all,,lol


Hmm. If it is being anti-Democrat to mention the Democratic Party's goals, then plenty of Democrats are anti-Democrat. laugh


its antidemocrat to spin similar goals with selective semantics

equal opportunity vs equal results,, for example
or level vs tie
or making wise dcisons vs socialism

a lot of anti democratic 'spin',,,but consistent with anti democratic opinions,,,


There has been plenty of anti-Republican spin coming from Democrats.

So, what is good for the goose, is good for the gander. :tongue:

msharmony's photo
Thu 02/13/14 07:54 PM


an opinion is neither true nor false

facts are true or false,,,

opinions are subjective to individual perspective



skip all that, do you think it's true or false? seems like there is a lot of truth ringing around for it to be an opinion...


I think each party has individuals with different solutions for common goals

I perceive the republican party to be more a party for the upper classes to help them keep their status

and the democratic party to be more for the lower classes to help them improve their status,,,

mightymoe's photo
Thu 02/13/14 08:10 PM



an opinion is neither true nor false

facts are true or false,,,

opinions are subjective to individual perspective



skip all that, do you think it's true or false? seems like there is a lot of truth ringing around for it to be an opinion...


I think each party has individuals with different solutions for common goals

I perceive the republican party to be more a party for the upper classes to help them keep their status

and the democratic party to be more for the lower classes to help them improve their status,,,


ok, is it true or false? no need for 50 words, one will do...

msharmony's photo
Thu 02/13/14 08:12 PM




an opinion is neither true nor false

facts are true or false,,,

opinions are subjective to individual perspective



skip all that, do you think it's true or false? seems like there is a lot of truth ringing around for it to be an opinion...


I think each party has individuals with different solutions for common goals

I perceive the republican party to be more a party for the upper classes to help them keep their status

and the democratic party to be more for the lower classes to help them improve their status,,,


ok, is it true or false? no need for 50 words, one will do...


I explained, I don't consider opinions true or false

I disagree with dodos opinions about republicans and democrats

Dodo_David's photo
Thu 02/13/14 08:13 PM
I perceive the republican party to be more a party for the upper classes to help them keep their status


Wow! No sooner do I mention anti-Republican spin coming from Democrats, and a Democrat gives an illustration.

msharmony's photo
Thu 02/13/14 08:15 PM

I perceive the republican party to be more a party for the upper classes to help them keep their status


Wow! No sooner do I mention anti-Republican spin coming from Democrats, and a Democrat gives an illustration.


look closer

I specifically stated that "I PERCEIVE", after being asked if something was true or untrue


Dodo_David's photo
Thu 02/13/14 08:16 PM


I perceive the republican party to be more a party for the upper classes to help them keep their status


Wow! No sooner do I mention anti-Republican spin coming from Democrats, and a Democrat gives an illustration.


look closer

I specifically stated that "I PERCEIVE", after being asked if something was true or untrue




So, must I say "I perceive" before stating what I believe?

msharmony's photo
Thu 02/13/14 08:19 PM



I perceive the republican party to be more a party for the upper classes to help them keep their status


Wow! No sooner do I mention anti-Republican spin coming from Democrats, and a Democrat gives an illustration.


look closer

I specifically stated that "I PERCEIVE", after being asked if something was true or untrue




So, must I say "I perceive" before stating what I believe?


or 'I believe'

or "I Think"

etc...

it would differentiate a personal perspective from an objective fact,,,

Dodo_David's photo
Thu 02/13/14 08:36 PM




I perceive the republican party to be more a party for the upper classes to help them keep their status


Wow! No sooner do I mention anti-Republican spin coming from Democrats, and a Democrat gives an illustration.


look closer

I specifically stated that "I PERCEIVE", after being asked if something was true or untrue




So, must I say "I perceive" before stating what I believe?


or 'I believe'

or "I Think"

etc...

it would differentiate a personal perspective from an objective fact,,,



Hmm.

Democrats are not stating a fact when they say that Republicans want voter ID laws in order to prevent minorities from voting.

Democrats are not stating a fact when they say that the Republican Party is more racist than the Democratic Party.

Democrats are not stating a fact when they say that the Republican Party is waging a war on women.

Democrats say plenty of anti-Republican things that aren't facts.

HotRodDeluxe's photo
Thu 02/13/14 08:47 PM
Edited by HotRodDeluxe on Thu 02/13/14 08:48 PM
Let's face it, all political discourse is loaded with rhetoric, and it goes on and on....ad infinitum.

Bring out the BoobToob videos! laugh

msharmony's photo
Thu 02/13/14 08:51 PM
Edited by msharmony on Thu 02/13/14 08:58 PM
Republican campaign consultant Scott Tranter appeared on a panel Monday hosted by the Pew Center on the States to discuss the long lines and voter ID controversies that plagued the 2012 election. In his comments, Tranter seemed to imply that he believed these issues were helpful to Republicans and should be pursued for that reason.

"A lot of us are campaign officials -- or campaign professionals -- and we want to do everything we can to help our side. Sometimes we think that's voter ID, sometimes we think that's longer lines -- whatever it may be," Tranter said with a laugh.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/10/republican-voter-id-scott-tranter_n_2273927.html

cannot PROVE that every member of the party agrees, or that it is a specific 'republican' agenda, but there is a circumstantial case to believe voter id laws were an attempt to suppress voting in favor of the republicans


msharmony's photo
Thu 02/13/14 08:55 PM
racists and sexists aren't the exclusive population of either party

but I do BELIEVE racists will align more often with republicans than with democrats,,


InvictusV's photo
Thu 02/13/14 09:04 PM

racists and sexists aren't the exclusive population of either party

but I do BELIEVE racists will align more often with republicans than with democrats,,




you must not know many white liberals then..

msharmony's photo
Thu 02/13/14 09:05 PM


racists and sexists aren't the exclusive population of either party

but I do BELIEVE racists will align more often with republicans than with democrats,,




you must not know many white liberals then..


I don't really have a habit of asking people what party they registered with, or whether they are 'liberal' or 'conservative'

but

I have been around and had professional and personal relationships with white people all my life,,, amongst others,,

InvictusV's photo
Thu 02/13/14 09:10 PM



racists and sexists aren't the exclusive population of either party

but I do BELIEVE racists will align more often with republicans than with democrats,,




you must not know many white liberals then..


I don't really have a habit of asking people what party they registered with, or whether they are 'liberal' or 'conservative'

but

I have been around and had professional and personal relationships with white people all my life,,, amongst others,,


I certainly believe that.

However, I doubt anyone is going to tell you to your face what they really think, now are they?

Just as I know that my black friends aren't going tell me what they all talk about when I am not around.


msharmony's photo
Thu 02/13/14 09:12 PM
they tell me plenty on line though

and those in the public eye say a lot too,,,

mightymoe's photo
Thu 02/13/14 09:33 PM

Republican campaign consultant Scott Tranter appeared on a panel Monday hosted by the Pew Center on the States to discuss the long lines and voter ID controversies that plagued the 2012 election. In his comments, Tranter seemed to imply that he believed these issues were helpful to Republicans and should be pursued for that reason.

"A lot of us are campaign officials -- or campaign professionals -- and we want to do everything we can to help our side. Sometimes we think that's voter ID, sometimes we think that's longer lines -- whatever it may be," Tranter said with a laugh.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/10/republican-voter-id-scott-tranter_n_2273927.html

cannot PROVE that every member of the party agrees, or that it is a specific 'republican' agenda, but there is a circumstantial case to believe voter id laws were an attempt to suppress voting in favor of the republicans




republican agenda? by not having these laws and allowing the liberals to use non Americans to influence the voting, how is that republican agenda?

to bad you only got half that story, he was talking about a level playingfield... now who is spinning what?

Lpdon's photo
Thu 02/13/14 09:38 PM
Edited by Lpdon on Thu 02/13/14 09:38 PM
Democrats have a LONG history of racism, just look at the large number of Democratic politicians who were members of the Klan.

President Harry Truman

Senator Robert Byrd - Byrd was the grand Cyclops. Byrd was a recruiter for the Klan while in his 20s and 30s, rising to the title of Kleagle and Exalted Cyclops of his local chapter. After leaving the group, Byrd spoke in favor of the Klan during his early political career. Though he claimed to have left the organization in 1943, Byrd wrote a letter in 1946 to the group's Imperial Wizard stating "The Klan is needed today as never before, and I am anxious to see its rebirth here in West Virginia." Byrd defended the Klan in his 1958 U.S. Senate campaign when he was 41 years old.[9]

Despite being the only Senator to vote against both African American U.S. Supreme Court nominees (liberal Thurgood Marshall and conservative Clarence Thomas) and filibustering the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

Senator Theodore G. Bilbo

Chief Justice Edward Douglass White Jr.

Associate Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States Hugo Black

Governor Bibb Graves - Graves was the Exalted Cyclops.

Governor Clifford Walker

Congressman George Gordon - Congressman for Tennessee's 10th congressional district became one of the Klan's first members. In 1867, Gordon became the Klan's first Grand Dragon for the Realm of Tennessee, and wrote its "Precept," a book describing its organization, purpose, and principles.

L.A. Mayor John Clinton Porter - Was a senior member.

Governor Ross Barnett - He interrupted the trial of Byron De La Beckwith Jr., (the man who killed Medgar Evers) during the middle of his trial to shake Beckwith's hand in front of the jury and proclaimed his innocence. Barnett also stated that if Beckwith were to get convicted he would be pardoned. Beckworth was finally convicted in 1994. Beckworth was also a Democratic Party member and politician.