Great suggestion.

How would you go about taking all those guns away from all the criminals?

no, to those paying attention


what are the 'norms'?

what is the standard of 'beauty' in America?

is it a flat nose, or thick lips, dark skin , or curves? or is it a slim nose, thin lips, blue eyes, and skinny and milky?

what is the standard image of 'success' in America?

is it the oprah winfreys, or the trumps and Reagans and gates and zuckerburgs?


what is the standard image of 'poverty' (as demonstrated in these threads that few find offensive or racist until I respond within them)

is that a white person, a white male? or is it a black woman, (the welfare queen created by raegan) eating steaks off the money of the hard working (White) people?


what is the standard image of 'crime' or 'ferals'? do they have blue eys and blonde hair,, or are they people of color?


you don't get that by being the 'founders' setting up a society for THEIR BENEFIT< white males started with and have worked hard to continue to hold the POWER by being the majority in all areas that affect the lives of others place in society

the majority making decisions , about economics, about hiring, about healthcare, about the laws,,


that is a POWER that many refuse to SEE or aknowledge,, though many more are quick to convince themselves of an innate superiority instead

(dododavid excluded from the latter)

The difference in perception could be due to the way that different groups respond to criminal activity.

For example, the infamous "no snitching" policy tends to enable criminals to keep being criminals.

So, is the "no snitching" policy common among all groups of people? Or is it associated with a particular ethnic group? It pains me to say this, but that "no snitching" policy is often reinforced in predominantly-black communities.

Likewise, when a white criminal is sent to prison, do other whites say that the criminal is in prison because of some kind of injustice? No, because everyone recognizes that the criminal's crimes caused him to go to prison.

In contrast, when a black American's criminal activity causes him to end up in legal trouble, it is too common for someone to claim that the criminal's legal problems are due to alleged "racism".

I agree that black criminals should be seen as individuals, but all too often, they are supported by their enablers because their enablers see skin color, not criminal activity.

What are you talking about? Are you always so whiny?

race is imbedded in Americas founding and building, it cant be ignored, it should be seen

but in what CAPACITY and for what PURPOSE should it be seen is the question

because whites can be seen as individuals, people are more likely to view their incarceration or criminal activity as individual,

because blacks are forced to be 'representative' for their entire race, people are more likely to suspect their incarceration or rather, their DISPARATE conviction and incarceration is a result of how easily people expect the INDIVIDUALS to all be the same and act the same,,,,criminally

Want to say that again in a way that is more understandable?

The point you fail to grasp is that Odumb is but the symptom and the Odumboites the cause.

And what message, there was but that someone was keeping time. And I do pay attention to details, says more some times than the words themselves.

And why was it that the only real emphasis placed had to do with the black child killed in Chicago, a symptom with no mention of the illness.

Oh yes illness, wasn't that related to the ease of getting a gun but wait Chicago has one of the most strict gun laws in this country. Or is it a message related to additional violations of the 2nd Amendment?

And while we are talking about Odumbo, isn't that his new thrust for 2014, stricter gun laws? Absolutely.

And there was an inference to Dr. King and his I have a dream speech but I'm sure not in a manner that Dr. King would accept would he still be here.

So exactly what did I miss?

Dude, President Obama isn't relevant to this discussion, but you keep wanting to include him.

So, yes, you do appear to be obsessed with the current POTUS. You habitually accuse anyone who disagrees with you of being a political supporter of the current POTUS, as if that were enough to discredit the other person's argument.

Indeed, you calling the current POTUS "Odumbo" comes across as being childish.

So wait, here we go again. We are to ignore the slant of something if it is on one side of the coin but condemn it if it is on the other. And to be against the side preferred by you....

Maybe your answer would be here....



Now normally I would prefer a more direct answer but the moderators have asked that I be more kind to the idiots here and as they are the moderators, I have agreed to honor their request.

But I do hope this has answered your inquiry.

In this case, I actually agree with alnewman.

And in other news ...



Getting back to what alnewman is talking about ...

What happened in the USA during colonial times was a case of a promotion of Englishman "superiority". White colonists who were not Englishmen were expected to adapt to English culture.

Over in the UK, Englishmen attempted to eliminate the Scottish culture, and white people who weren't members of the Church of England faced persecution, which is why the Pilgrims fled to North America.

Indeed, the violence that erupted in Northern Ireland was the result of Englishmen trying to force their culture on the Irishmen there.

In the American colonies, plenty of white colonists were accepting of Native Americans because those colonists didn't promote "Englishman superiority". Those colonists primarily lived in the northern colonies and primarily originated from nations other than England.

The Englishmen in the southern colonies, in contrast, considered Native Americans to be uncivilized because the latter's cultures were not like English culture.

Regarding slavery in the Western Hemisphere, it was the Englishmen who promoted such a thing. The Spaniards, in contrast, acted in accordance with whatever was acceptable to the Roman Catholic Church.

When the topic of slavery became seriously divisive in the USA, the ones opposed to slavery were people who lived in states that were heavily populated by non-English immigrants and their descendants.

So, instead of U.S. history being a promotion of "white power", it was a promotion of "English power", even after the USA gained its independence from England.

So, your response is to use ad hominem by calling anyone who disagrees with you an idiot.

He could use sarcasm too.

First, I'm not your dude so you can drop the valley mentality and Odumbo is very relevant to the discussion at hand, actually I used two different references. But the big question is why you keep trying to exclude him within these topics that are all about him? Trying to hide the mentality that drives the topic to be posted?



And again you would be incorrect, I am obsessed with this republic that I belong to and will defend to the death. Odumbo is but the largest threat to that republic. And for Odumbo, it is not obsession but pure and unadulterated contempt. The same contempt that I feel for those buttholes at the head of Monsanto, Bank of America, Chase and so many others but not quite on the level of a Bernanke or other head of the Fed Reserve.

And it's not only Odumbo but we can include Reid, Pelosi, Boxer, Mitchel, Holder, Cantor, McCain and so many others. He is but the head of the tyrants. He is but the Pied Piper of the sheeple.

And for his political supporters...



And not everyone, the Odumbo sheeple are so easy to spot, you for instance.



Childish, not really just a derogatory declaration of the pure contempt I have for that butthole. Now if you want childish...



And political affiliation doesn't matter....

And exactly where did I talk about anything anywhere near this in this thread? I have not only not posted anything like it but also haven't even broached the subject here. Do not try and insinuate that I said something I didn't, I'm perfectly capable of saying what I want to say without help.

Are you feeling guilty about something? I haven't called anyone an idiot. I have just stated that I promised to be kind to idiots and that I will honor their request. That in no way insinuates that anyone is an idiot but if you're feeling a little froggy please feel free to jump.

Now what I have said is that I have promised not to directly answer to the person but to the ideas, the rules of the forum. So do not blame me if you read into it something that is not there.

because when blacks commit crimes, they are seen as part of the 'black' culture

and whites committing crimes are seen simply as criminal white individuals,,,


as a result, blacks being seen as 'criminals' are more likely to be suspected and convicted of CRIME,,,,,


not that that CAUSES them to commit crime, but it could factor into how much MORE OFTEN They are suspected and CONVICTED of being guilty of crimes,,,,

quite a bit actually

like veterans being homeless
and there being more emphasis on building (Business) jails than improving education,,,

and you are the ONLY one speaking about Obama,,,,the rest of us are talking about another topic entirely,,,,

Nothing actually.

With 24% of men and 2% of women as veterans or a grand total of about 13% of the population are veterans that would mean 40,300,000 veterans. He stated 300,000 are homeless or less than 1% of the veterans homeless. So what is the issue, it sounds good.

Also according to a NPR report about a large government study, there was a 24% drop in veterans who are homeless from 2012 to 2013.

So why check facts, it sounds good so lets go with it like a good Odumboite (oh look Odumbo again).

And then in Philadelphia they close 23 schools because of a gaping $300 million deficit but then the state wants to spend $400 million on a new prison to house prisoners from said city what is the problem. Why would I even care, I don't live in Philadelphia and I detest the public education system and think they should close them all. And to make matter worse, there is "Common Core". Maybe those prisons are going to be needed.

And as far as Odumbo (look Odumbo again) is concerned, you may not think you are discussing him by attempting to be the good little sheeple but I prefer to call a spade a spade.

This thread is not about President Obama or the Democratic Party.