Caucasians And Africans and Indians and Asians.

sevral species the grass helichysum italicum has no capsaisin, that is where all the other plants get their name from and sevral of them have it just not the grass which actually grows in the medditeranean (spelled wrong?) unlike its farther east relatives

and no some of those peppers do grow in india as indian cuture has had its legendary cuisine for over a thousand years

i may say that oriental food has been spicy for centuries.
now we have cajun food which is hot. it's a food that has come for several years, and it was brought by slaves in Louisiana.
They came from Africa.
I guess there are more links into it than the ones u r proposing spidey.

Okay, if you are going to argue in spite of the facts, there is nothing I can say...

Did you know that Piper Nigrum is from India? Did you know that mustard if from India? Did you know that both were used mustard seed and piper nigrum factored highly in Indian foods before chili peppers were introduced? Just because it's used by a culture doesn't mean it's native to that culture.

to me or to lizard spidey?

just a trivial note:
in my family nobody likes hot food, yet my brother does.
It's crazy his level of tolerance.
We have in my country a variety of chilli pepper called "gallinazo" or "crow (translated)"
My brother owns a shrimp farm over there, so he has plant some gallinazo trees next to the window in his office, and he often takes one of those and start eating it as u chew a bubble gum.
And I'm telling u those chilli peppers are worse than jalapenos.

This whole thread just reveals a complete ignorance of how evolution works in the first place.

It’s not a problem.

Religious mythology has always been at odds against observations of the real world. When will it stop?

It used to be believed that the earth was the center of creation. God created man, and there was heaven and earth. And that was that.

Everything revolved around earth and humans.

It was believed that the stars and planets were actually in “heaven” and that they were perfect. It was also believed that the ‘stars” were actually pinholes in the firmament of heaven allowing the light from behind to shine through. The entire “universe” was believe to be quite small.

Over time observations led THINKING men who weren’t afraid to challenge mythology to discover that these beliefs were false.

They discovered that everything does not revolve around the earth, and that the earth as well as the other planets actually revolved around the sun. They discovered that the sun is not perfect as it has sunspots on it. Little black spots that are far from being aligned in any perfect symmetry.

They discovered that everything doesn’t even revolve around the sun, and that Jupiter has moons that revolve around it.

They discovered that the so-called ‘pinholes to heaven’ were actually other suns not unlike our own. I think the church actually burned people at the stake for suggesting this.

They eventually discovered that the universe is not small at all. Even the size of our own Milky Way galaxy was much larger than originally thought and contains about 100 billion stars and that our solar system is not even in any special place with respect to the galaxy. In fact, we basically live out in the boon docks of the galaxy.

Then they discovered that the Milky Way galaxy is only one galaxy in a much larger universe that is filled with over 100 billion galaxies as large as the Milky Way. And that’s just the part of the universe that we can actually observe. We even have very good reasons to believe that the universe is vastly larger than the observable part that we can even see.

Somehow mythology managed to survive all of that and stick to their guns that humans are still the focal point of creation.

Now they argue against evolution which has also been observationally confirmed beyond any “reasonable” doubt. To question evolution is really no different that questioning whether or not the earth revolves around the sun. It’s just plain silly.

Why do people cling to mythology when it has been disproved time and time again? Somehow it will continue to survive even as evolution is finally accepted by even the most hardcore skeptics. Just like they accepted that we aren’t in a special place in a tiny universe they will accept that we did indeed evolved, but they will still manage to keep their mythology alive in spite of these facts.

What is the deal with believing in mythology? What makes it so attractive? Or more to the point perhaps, why is it so hard to accept reality?

These aren’t even remotely a problem for some religions. For most the pagan and pantheistic religions these things aren’t important. The universe is what it is. No problem there.

Today, scientists believe that they have very profound reasons for believing that all of the atoms and matter that we see, and love so much, is only a very small fraction of what the universe is actually made of. Only about 5% actually.

They have very good reasons for believing that about 25% of the universe is made of “Dark Matter” and another 70% of it is made of “Dark Energy”.

Don’t let the word “dark” mislead you. It’s not like “The Dark Side of The Force”. They simply mean that we can’t see it. That can mean that it’s completely invisible and not what we might actually think of as “dark”.

In any case, people who are arguing about evolution are way behind the times. That’s pretty much a done deal similar to the fact that the earth revolves around the sun.

These new questions concerning the nature of “Dark Matter” and “Dark Energy” are much more exciting. I’m currently taking a course on this very subject. Dark Energy is extremely interesting. It makes up 70% of the universe and pervades EVERYTHING including YOU and ME!

Dark Energy is omnipresent and has the same value everywhere throughout the entire universe. It’s differnet from any other kind of energy that we know of. In other words, it’s not potential energy, it’s not kinetic energy, and it’s not the rest energy of pure matter. It’s a differnet form of energy than has every been encountered before and it’s DETECTABLE!!!!

Behold the spirit of the universe!

The universe is not as simple as you might think. It may very well be ALIVE!

The pagans may have something substantial behind their “calling of the energy”.

May the Force be with you!

You’re wasting your time trying to disprove evolution in favor of mythology using chili pepper.

Both. Chili Peppers are undeniably from the Americas. Spicy isn't what I'm talking about. I'm specifically speaking of the health benefits that humans get from capsaisin, while other animals don't eat it because they...pardon the pun, can't take the heat.

Cajuns are from Canada, not Africa and their cuisine is a mix of many different cultures, primarily French. Traditional cajun food is not hot, it has a slight kick to it, but it's nothing like what most people call cajun.

james james

Abracadabra,

Thank you for your long, rambling insulting answer. As is my tradition, I won't read it and will pretend it was never posted. If you can't get your message across in a couple paragraphs, then you are wasting your time.

Sorry Spider, my first sentence was not intended as an insult but rather a fact.

There is nothing in our understanding of evolution that suggests that the human digestive tract should have any problem dealing with chili peppers. To believe so genuinely reveals a misunderstanding of how evolution works. There shouldn’t be any insult in that.

misunderstanding, what a different word.
u r a gentleman, my friend.

are you completely opposed to the idea that humans didn't get the enzyme through evolution but rather always had it?

Abracadabra,

I don't have time right now to post all of the information that we have about capsaicin toxicity, but here is one site: http://www.emea.europa.eu/pdfs/vet/mrls/056099en.pdf

The interesting thing is that they list many negatives to animals consuming capsaicin, but there are no known negatives to a human consuming capsaicin. Humans detoxify capsaicin very quickly, I read one study that said a human would have to drink 5 gallons of tabasco sauce to become unconscious. The same amount of water would probably kill you.

kingbreeze,

I'm just asking a question.

Just throwing out ideas....but I just came across a pepper called a Naga Jolokia pepper it is indigenous to North Eastern India and supposedly has a very high content of Capsaicin.

"As is my tradition, I won't read it and will pretend it was never posted." He said it not me
Thank u fresh mountain air I knew that but perhaps other who r less openminded than I, didnt
Abracadabra u rule man

A good history of the Chili Pepper.
http://yaleglobal.yale.edu/about/chili.jsp

dude spidey u r killing me
Ok guys let's go all tonight to chilli's
spider pays.