Topic: Tax payers chip in on Meeshells birthday present
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Thu 01/09/14 03:18 PM
Edited by Smartazzjohn on Thu 01/09/14 03:18 PM



the purpose of vacation is to rejuvenate, reflect, and devote time to family and friends that our 'work schedules' takes away


The purpose of a vacation for most is to sucker someone else to pay you for not having to work.

Ask the self employed about vacations and how few that take when they are the most deserving.

But then there wouldn't be tax and spend.



lol, what a load

self employed can and do take vacations whenever they choose to

that's a perk of being self employed over working for others,,making your own schedule,,,,


Evidently you have never been self employed as a sole proprietor or a small business.

There are times you take a day off if you get a chance. not WHEN you choose. If and when you take a vacation it's dictated by your business, not when you choose.

This isn't the first time you've shown you don't have a clue about running a business. SMH

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Thu 01/09/14 03:41 PM

wait? so our taxes actually pay for the security of first families on travel...!!! surprised surprised

shock and awe,,,,rofl rofl rofl


Not the taxes you are thinking of, that goes to the Federal Reserve, but yeah those excise taxes are huge.

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Thu 01/09/14 03:43 PM



the purpose of vacation is to rejuvenate, reflect, and devote time to family and friends that our 'work schedules' takes away


The purpose of a vacation for most is to sucker someone else to pay you for not having to work.

Ask the self employed about vacations and how few that take when they are the most deserving.

But then there wouldn't be tax and spend.



lol, what a load

self employed can and do take vacations whenever they choose to

that's a perk of being self employed over working for others,,making your own schedule,,,,


Haven't a clue, have you!asleep

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Thu 01/09/14 03:44 PM



ain't that Gal tired yet,of eating Lobster,in exotic locations, on Taxpayer's expense?pitchfork


And to think she hates Americans.


not,,,,,


And the blind faith with it's blind vision manifests itself.

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Thu 01/09/14 03:47 PM

unfortunately anyone who does anything social at all is exposed to 'dumbos' regularly

but mothers , especially working mothers, have an extra difficult load to carry and deserve a vacation whenever they can get one


of course, capitalists wouldn't think so since their job has no official title or paycheck to accompany it


Not "any" dumbo, the Odumbo, the Supreme Being, the Almighty, the "God" of Hope.

I mean for us it has only been six years and we need a vacation.

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Thu 01/09/14 03:49 PM




the purpose of vacation is to rejuvenate, reflect, and devote time to family and friends that our 'work schedules' takes away


The purpose of a vacation for most is to sucker someone else to pay you for not having to work.

Ask the self employed about vacations and how few that take when they are the most deserving.

But then there wouldn't be tax and spend.



lol, what a load

self employed can and do take vacations whenever they choose to

that's a perk of being self employed over working for others,,making your own schedule,,,,


Evidently you have never been self employed as a sole proprietor or a small business.

There are times you take a day off if you get a chance. not WHEN you choose. If and when you take a vacation it's dictated by your business, not when you choose.

This isn't the first time you've shown you don't have a clue about running a business. SMH


Why stop with running a business, it applies to most anything and everything. A true Odumboite.

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Thu 01/09/14 04:56 PM




the purpose of vacation is to rejuvenate, reflect, and devote time to family and friends that our 'work schedules' takes away


The purpose of a vacation for most is to sucker someone else to pay you for not having to work.

Ask the self employed about vacations and how few that take when they are the most deserving.

But then there wouldn't be tax and spend.



lol, what a load

self employed can and do take vacations whenever they choose to

that's a perk of being self employed over working for others,,making your own schedule,,,,


Evidently you have never been self employed as a sole proprietor or a small business.

There are times you take a day off if you get a chance. not WHEN you choose. If and when you take a vacation it's dictated by your business, not when you choose.

This isn't the first time you've shown you don't have a clue about running a business. SMH



I have been self employed before,, I am about to be a sole proprietor as well

several f my close relatives are as well and guess what? they plan and take vacations,,,laugh

and it is STILL TRUE , one of the perk of working for oneself is the ability to set ones own schedue

msharmony's photo
Thu 01/09/14 04:59 PM


unfortunately anyone who does anything social at all is exposed to 'dumbos' regularly

but mothers , especially working mothers, have an extra difficult load to carry and deserve a vacation whenever they can get one


of course, capitalists wouldn't think so since their job has no official title or paycheck to accompany it


Not "any" dumbo, the Odumbo, the Supreme Being, the Almighty, the "God" of Hope.

I mean for us it has only been six years and we need a vacation.


yeah,, well dumb comes in many forms, including the lack of financial or time management skills that people use to plan a vacation,,,,:wink:

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Thu 01/09/14 05:03 PM





the purpose of vacation is to rejuvenate, reflect, and devote time to family and friends that our 'work schedules' takes away


The purpose of a vacation for most is to sucker someone else to pay you for not having to work.

Ask the self employed about vacations and how few that take when they are the most deserving.

But then there wouldn't be tax and spend.



lol, what a load

self employed can and do take vacations whenever they choose to

that's a perk of being self employed over working for others,,making your own schedule,,,,


Evidently you have never been self employed as a sole proprietor or a small business.

There are times you take a day off if you get a chance. not WHEN you choose. If and when you take a vacation it's dictated by your business, not when you choose.

This isn't the first time you've shown you don't have a clue about running a business. SMH


Why stop with running a business, it applies to most anything and everything. A true Odumboite.


lol


I don't even want to assume the IQ of those constantly referring to personal attacks as opposed to rational and verifiable information,,,


I have enough confidence in my intelligence not to really take the seriously,,,,

IM imagining 'dumb' my be something they are quite familiar with,,



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Thu 01/09/14 06:43 PM
Meeshell has a job?

Sole proprietors cannot take vacations at their leisure.

I had a cleaning and maintenance business.

10 years and no vacation. Worked it alone. Couldn't afford to hire help. What with all the withholding,SSpayments,liability insurance,etc.

Yep, go ahead and hold the idea small business owners are free to vacation like oBozo.

msharmony's photo
Thu 01/09/14 07:59 PM

Meeshell has a job?

Sole proprietors cannot take vacations at their leisure.

I had a cleaning and maintenance business.

10 years and no vacation. Worked it alone. Couldn't afford to hire help. What with all the withholding,SSpayments,liability insurance,etc.

Yep, go ahead and hold the idea small business owners are free to vacation like oBozo.



and that's YOU

that's not all proprietors, or self employed people, like I said, I know several who manage their time and money to fit in vacations,,,

as well as myself when I was 'self employed' as an independent contractor with a certain telecommunication company,,,

and all FIRST FAMILIES certainly are free to take vacations, as well as most people that are upper middle class and above,,,


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Thu 01/09/14 08:46 PM

Leaving her at the kennel would have cost a lot less.


Now Willing, that was uncalled for...but funny as hell
rofl rofl rofl

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Fri 01/10/14 02:41 AM


Meeshell has a job?

Sole proprietors cannot take vacations at their leisure.

I had a cleaning and maintenance business.

10 years and no vacation. Worked it alone. Couldn't afford to hire help. What with all the withholding,SSpayments,liability insurance,etc.

Yep, go ahead and hold the idea small business owners are free to vacation like oBozo.



and that's YOU

that's not all proprietors, or self employed people, like I said, I know several who manage their time and money to fit in vacations,,,

as well as myself when I was 'self employed' as an independent contractor with a certain telecommunication company,,,

and all FIRST FAMILIES certainly are free to take vacations, as well as most people that are upper middle class and above,,,




A 1099 contractor with a set company is not self employed. Just a way for a corporation not to have liabilities. Perhaps the IRS should examine this, could be liabilities there that need resolved. Can't have citizens going around the system.

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Fri 01/10/14 03:15 AM
Edited by msharmony on Fri 01/10/14 03:20 AM



Meeshell has a job?

Sole proprietors cannot take vacations at their leisure.

I had a cleaning and maintenance business.

10 years and no vacation. Worked it alone. Couldn't afford to hire help. What with all the withholding,SSpayments,liability insurance,etc.

Yep, go ahead and hold the idea small business owners are free to vacation like oBozo.



and that's YOU

that's not all proprietors, or self employed people, like I said, I know several who manage their time and money to fit in vacations,,,

as well as myself when I was 'self employed' as an independent contractor with a certain telecommunication company,,,

and all FIRST FAMILIES certainly are free to take vacations, as well as most people that are upper middle class and above,,,




A 1099 contractor with a set company is not self employed. Just a way for a corporation not to have liabilities. Perhaps the IRS should examine this, could be liabilities there that need resolved. Can't have citizens going around the system.



independent contractors are self employed,,,they can work with a set company who pays them for their time, or they can work with several different companies that pay them for that time

but they are still self employed,, whether one is working as a self employed independent contractor or an employee with a business depends upon many different things,,,


http://www.irs.gov/Businesses/Small-Businesses-&-Self-Employed/Independent-Contractor-Defined

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Fri 01/10/14 07:29 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Fri 01/10/14 07:56 AM


Meeshell has a job?

Sole proprietors cannot take vacations at their leisure.

I had a cleaning and maintenance business.

10 years and no vacation. Worked it alone. Couldn't afford to hire help. What with all the withholding,SSpayments,liability insurance,etc.

Yep, go ahead and hold the idea small business owners are free to vacation like oBozo.



and that's YOU

that's not all proprietors, or self employed people, like I said, I know several who manage their time and money to fit in vacations,,,

as well as myself when I was 'self employed' as an independent contractor with a certain telecommunication company,,,

and all FIRST FAMILIES certainly are free to take vacations, as well as most people that are upper middle class and above,,,




Most of us who run our own small business can not afford the time or expense of vacations under present policy and regulations, add Obozocare into the mix and even the thought of being able to afford a vacation is a pipe dream.....

The ability to plan one and take one are two different things.... far from the American Dream of ownership our parents enjoyed!

I have a small business, can't afford employees or vacations no matter how successful I may be. If I want to take a vacation do I starve or fall behind on my accounts and bills? But I must pay for this presidents lavish vacations as a taxpayer!

How long since you have been a small business owner without any form of subsidy from the gov't? Most of us wouldn't qualify even if we could get one.

msharmony's photo
Fri 01/10/14 08:12 AM

I don't know what to tell you,,,


the several I know that are in business for themselves take vacations regularly,,

live within ones means maybe? pick a business or trade that will pay more than just what is needed to live on,,,,

Smartazzjohn's photo
Fri 01/10/14 08:22 AM





the purpose of vacation is to rejuvenate, reflect, and devote time to family and friends that our 'work schedules' takes away


The purpose of a vacation for most is to sucker someone else to pay you for not having to work.

Ask the self employed about vacations and how few that take when they are the most deserving.

But then there wouldn't be tax and spend.



lol, what a load

self employed can and do take vacations whenever they choose to

that's a perk of being self employed over working for others,,making your own schedule,,,,


Evidently you have never been self employed as a sole proprietor or a small business.

There are times you take a day off if you get a chance. not WHEN you choose. If and when you take a vacation it's dictated by your business, not when you choose.

This isn't the first time you've shown you don't have a clue about running a business. SMH



I have been self employed before,, I am about to be a sole proprietor as well

several f my close relatives are as well and guess what? they plan and take vacations,,,laugh

and it is STILL TRUE , one of the perk of working for oneself is the ability to set ones own schedue


And your spinning continues. laugh

I was specific in the type of self employment I mentioned and I said as a "sole proprietor" or "small business" owner. Did I say anything about being a supposed "self employed independent contractor", most of who work for one company? Companies "hire" these independent contractors all the time to work for that company exclusively which is hardly being independent. These people often work within an "office", and with a schedule that is set by the "payer".

Hiring "independent contractors" is a great way for a company to be able to get rid of workers without the legal ramifications of having "employees". Most "independent contractors" aren't "self employed" by choice, it's more likely a company is avoiding the liabilities with hiring them. A company doesn't have to "lay them off" or "fire" them if they are no longer needed or wanted. Many companies use these "self employed independent contractors" like a temp service without the cost associated with using a temp service.

When you get right down to it EVERYONE works for THEMSELVES and ANYONE can set their own schedule and take time off when they want whether they are a business owner, an employee or independent contractor. You just may not get paycheck after setting your own schedule. laugh






msharmony's photo
Fri 01/10/14 08:30 AM
and its STILL TRUE,, that self employed, INCLUDING SOLE PROPRIETORS

are able to manage their time and money to take vacations, if they have planned ahead,,,

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Fri 01/10/14 09:14 AM

and its STILL TRUE,, that self employed, INCLUDING SOLE PROPRIETORS

are able to manage their time and money to take vacations, if they have planned ahead,,,


Someday reality will shine through...... maybe

But first you must live in it

willing2's photo
Fri 01/10/14 09:23 AM
You right, SS.

If I had told any of the office managers I was going on a couple weeks vacation and their offices would just have to stay dirty, they'd be finding them a new company to take my contract.

I could never find an employee I could trust to do a thorough job and, if they stole something, I would be liable.