Topic: U.S. policy in Syria
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Thu 12/19/13 08:47 AM
Fox! I hope your people succeed in purging those foreign dogs from your country... and your cause. drinker

Anyone caught fighting who is not Syrian should be eliminated... Enough of these foreign fighters in YOUR land!

mightymoe's photo
Thu 12/19/13 08:50 AM





yeah,, and many administrations before ,,, how did Hussein get his gas again?


i'm sorry, i thought barry was president now, the present... so now you wanna bring up the past? and, since you did, when that was sold to saddam, were we at war with them? no, selling weapons to an enemy is actually treason, and who are we at war with? the same terrorists that are killing our soldiers now?

so barry wants to take our guns, give them to mexican cartels and the same terrorists we are fighting in afganistan...

totally worthy of the "peace" prize....



'
are we at war with those who follow islam? whts your point exactly?


my point is, its part of US policy,, LONG BEFORE OBAMA to sell and trade arms that go into the hands of people who,, guess what? use them sometimes to kill innocent people

that's what guns do


US has been in the gun industry for decades,, just wanted to clear up any dilusion that this was in some exclusive way about OBama or this administration,,,


US dropped a NUCLER BOMB on innocent people
US armed Hussein
US has armed more 'rebels' than one can shake stick at,,,,,


just using the word 'islamist' or 'rebel' doesn't tell anyone anything about who is actually being armed or for what


Simply proves the corruption of gov't. This POTUS however provides arms and support to our enemies WHILE we are at war with them



assuming much

the article doesn't say who is being armed,, so how do we know its someone we are 'at war' with?


try reading the newspaper, or reading articles on the internet.. there's plenty of sources that have documented this... and why is barry getting involved anyway? what does syria's civil war have to do with the US?

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Thu 12/19/13 08:50 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Thu 12/19/13 08:52 AM





yeah,, and many administrations before ,,, how did Hussein get his gas again?


i'm sorry, i thought barry was president now, the present... so now you wanna bring up the past? and, since you did, when that was sold to saddam, were we at war with them? no, selling weapons to an enemy is actually treason, and who are we at war with? the same terrorists that are killing our soldiers now?

so barry wants to take our guns, give them to mexican cartels and the same terrorists we are fighting in afganistan...

totally worthy of the "peace" prize....



'
are we at war with those who follow islam? whts your point exactly?


my point is, its part of US policy,, LONG BEFORE OBAMA to sell and trade arms that go into the hands of people who,, guess what? use them sometimes to kill innocent people

that's what guns do


US has been in the gun industry for decades,, just wanted to clear up any dilusion that this was in some exclusive way about OBama or this administration,,,


US dropped a NUCLER BOMB on innocent people
US armed Hussein
US has armed more 'rebels' than one can shake stick at,,,,,


just using the word 'islamist' or 'rebel' doesn't tell anyone anything about who is actually being armed or for what


Simply proves the corruption of gov't. This POTUS however provides arms and support to our enemies WHILE we are at war with them



assuming much

the article doesn't say who is being armed,, so how do we know its someone we are 'at war' with?


slaphead My Constitution says National defense..... NOT world aggression!

mightymoe's photo
Thu 12/19/13 09:18 AM






yeah,, and many administrations before ,,, how did Hussein get his gas again?


i'm sorry, i thought barry was president now, the present... so now you wanna bring up the past? and, since you did, when that was sold to saddam, were we at war with them? no, selling weapons to an enemy is actually treason, and who are we at war with? the same terrorists that are killing our soldiers now?

so barry wants to take our guns, give them to mexican cartels and the same terrorists we are fighting in afganistan...

totally worthy of the "peace" prize....



'
are we at war with those who follow islam? whts your point exactly?


my point is, its part of US policy,, LONG BEFORE OBAMA to sell and trade arms that go into the hands of people who,, guess what? use them sometimes to kill innocent people

that's what guns do


US has been in the gun industry for decades,, just wanted to clear up any dilusion that this was in some exclusive way about OBama or this administration,,,


US dropped a NUCLER BOMB on innocent people
US armed Hussein
US has armed more 'rebels' than one can shake stick at,,,,,


just using the word 'islamist' or 'rebel' doesn't tell anyone anything about who is actually being armed or for what


Simply proves the corruption of gov't. This POTUS however provides arms and support to our enemies WHILE we are at war with them



assuming much

the article doesn't say who is being armed,, so how do we know its someone we are 'at war' with?


slaphead My Constitution says National defense..... NOT world aggression!


i think it's been established that king barry doesn't worry about that little piece of paper...

msharmony's photo
Thu 12/19/13 09:23 AM






yeah,, and many administrations before ,,, how did Hussein get his gas again?


i'm sorry, i thought barry was president now, the present... so now you wanna bring up the past? and, since you did, when that was sold to saddam, were we at war with them? no, selling weapons to an enemy is actually treason, and who are we at war with? the same terrorists that are killing our soldiers now?

so barry wants to take our guns, give them to mexican cartels and the same terrorists we are fighting in afganistan...

totally worthy of the "peace" prize....



'
are we at war with those who follow islam? whts your point exactly?


my point is, its part of US policy,, LONG BEFORE OBAMA to sell and trade arms that go into the hands of people who,, guess what? use them sometimes to kill innocent people

that's what guns do


US has been in the gun industry for decades,, just wanted to clear up any dilusion that this was in some exclusive way about OBama or this administration,,,


US dropped a NUCLER BOMB on innocent people
US armed Hussein
US has armed more 'rebels' than one can shake stick at,,,,,


just using the word 'islamist' or 'rebel' doesn't tell anyone anything about who is actually being armed or for what


Simply proves the corruption of gov't. This POTUS however provides arms and support to our enemies WHILE we are at war with them



assuming much

the article doesn't say who is being armed,, so how do we know its someone we are 'at war' with?


try reading the newspaper, or reading articles on the internet.. there's plenty of sources that have documented this... and why is barry getting involved anyway? what does syria's civil war have to do with the US?


its not a topic that interests me enough to seek out other articles,,

this forum interests me so IM commenting on what is provided here in this forum

since when did 'considering' something turn into becoming involved?

since when does a president get 'involved' with anything by themselves,,,, they speak on behalf government and citizens, not for their person,,,

Presidents work with theit CONGRESS ,,, not alone

mightymoe's photo
Thu 12/19/13 09:28 AM







yeah,, and many administrations before ,,, how did Hussein get his gas again?


i'm sorry, i thought barry was president now, the present... so now you wanna bring up the past? and, since you did, when that was sold to saddam, were we at war with them? no, selling weapons to an enemy is actually treason, and who are we at war with? the same terrorists that are killing our soldiers now?

so barry wants to take our guns, give them to mexican cartels and the same terrorists we are fighting in afganistan...

totally worthy of the "peace" prize....



'
are we at war with those who follow islam? whts your point exactly?


my point is, its part of US policy,, LONG BEFORE OBAMA to sell and trade arms that go into the hands of people who,, guess what? use them sometimes to kill innocent people

that's what guns do


US has been in the gun industry for decades,, just wanted to clear up any dilusion that this was in some exclusive way about OBama or this administration,,,


US dropped a NUCLER BOMB on innocent people
US armed Hussein
US has armed more 'rebels' than one can shake stick at,,,,,


just using the word 'islamist' or 'rebel' doesn't tell anyone anything about who is actually being armed or for what


Simply proves the corruption of gov't. This POTUS however provides arms and support to our enemies WHILE we are at war with them



assuming much

the article doesn't say who is being armed,, so how do we know its someone we are 'at war' with?


try reading the newspaper, or reading articles on the internet.. there's plenty of sources that have documented this... and why is barry getting involved anyway? what does syria's civil war have to do with the US?


its not a topic that interests me enough to seek out other articles,,

this forum interests me so IM commenting on what is provided here in this forum

since when did 'considering' something turn into becoming involved?

since when does a president get 'involved' with anything by themselves,,,, they speak on behalf government and citizens, not for their person,,,

Presidents work with theit CONGRESS ,,, not alone


umm.. due to your lack of not being interested, congress said no, and barry wanted to anyway... read up

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Thu 12/19/13 09:32 AM

The 2 parties, and all 3 branches of gov't, controlled by bankers and Wall Street CEOs, could care less about what the people think. We are nothing more than an obstacle in their way to the power and privilege they seek.

Oliver Stone laid it out pretty well....

The Untold History Of The United States

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/120359/The_Untold_History_Of_The_United_States_ep07/

msharmony's photo
Thu 12/19/13 09:36 AM








yeah,, and many administrations before ,,, how did Hussein get his gas again?


i'm sorry, i thought barry was president now, the present... so now you wanna bring up the past? and, since you did, when that was sold to saddam, were we at war with them? no, selling weapons to an enemy is actually treason, and who are we at war with? the same terrorists that are killing our soldiers now?

so barry wants to take our guns, give them to mexican cartels and the same terrorists we are fighting in afganistan...

totally worthy of the "peace" prize....



'
are we at war with those who follow islam? whts your point exactly?


my point is, its part of US policy,, LONG BEFORE OBAMA to sell and trade arms that go into the hands of people who,, guess what? use them sometimes to kill innocent people

that's what guns do


US has been in the gun industry for decades,, just wanted to clear up any dilusion that this was in some exclusive way about OBama or this administration,,,


US dropped a NUCLER BOMB on innocent people
US armed Hussein
US has armed more 'rebels' than one can shake stick at,,,,,


just using the word 'islamist' or 'rebel' doesn't tell anyone anything about who is actually being armed or for what


Simply proves the corruption of gov't. This POTUS however provides arms and support to our enemies WHILE we are at war with them



assuming much

the article doesn't say who is being armed,, so how do we know its someone we are 'at war' with?


try reading the newspaper, or reading articles on the internet.. there's plenty of sources that have documented this... and why is barry getting involved anyway? what does syria's civil war have to do with the US?


its not a topic that interests me enough to seek out other articles,,

this forum interests me so IM commenting on what is provided here in this forum

since when did 'considering' something turn into becoming involved?

since when does a president get 'involved' with anything by themselves,,,, they speak on behalf government and citizens, not for their person,,,

Presidents work with theit CONGRESS ,,, not alone


umm.. due to your lack of not being interested, congress said no, and barry wanted to anyway... read up



and?

msharmony's photo
Thu 12/19/13 09:45 AM







yeah,, and many administrations before ,,, how did Hussein get his gas again?


i'm sorry, i thought barry was president now, the present... so now you wanna bring up the past? and, since you did, when that was sold to saddam, were we at war with them? no, selling weapons to an enemy is actually treason, and who are we at war with? the same terrorists that are killing our soldiers now?

so barry wants to take our guns, give them to mexican cartels and the same terrorists we are fighting in afganistan...

totally worthy of the "peace" prize....



'
are we at war with those who follow islam? whts your point exactly?


my point is, its part of US policy,, LONG BEFORE OBAMA to sell and trade arms that go into the hands of people who,, guess what? use them sometimes to kill innocent people

that's what guns do


US has been in the gun industry for decades,, just wanted to clear up any dilusion that this was in some exclusive way about OBama or this administration,,,


US dropped a NUCLER BOMB on innocent people
US armed Hussein
US has armed more 'rebels' than one can shake stick at,,,,,


just using the word 'islamist' or 'rebel' doesn't tell anyone anything about who is actually being armed or for what


Simply proves the corruption of gov't. This POTUS however provides arms and support to our enemies WHILE we are at war with them



assuming much

the article doesn't say who is being armed,, so how do we know its someone we are 'at war' with?


slaphead My Constitution says National defense..... NOT world aggression!


i think it's been established that king barry doesn't worry about that little piece of paper...


that piece of paper states:


congress has power
To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water


president has power

to make treaties


and that all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land;



other countries are also our concern, even in the Constitution,,,

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Thu 12/19/13 10:16 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Thu 12/19/13 10:23 AM








yeah,, and many administrations before ,,, how did Hussein get his gas again?


i'm sorry, i thought barry was president now, the present... so now you wanna bring up the past? and, since you did, when that was sold to saddam, were we at war with them? no, selling weapons to an enemy is actually treason, and who are we at war with? the same terrorists that are killing our soldiers now?

so barry wants to take our guns, give them to mexican cartels and the same terrorists we are fighting in afganistan...

totally worthy of the "peace" prize....



'
are we at war with those who follow islam? whts your point exactly?


my point is, its part of US policy,, LONG BEFORE OBAMA to sell and trade arms that go into the hands of people who,, guess what? use them sometimes to kill innocent people

that's what guns do


US has been in the gun industry for decades,, just wanted to clear up any dilusion that this was in some exclusive way about OBama or this administration,,,


US dropped a NUCLER BOMB on innocent people
US armed Hussein
US has armed more 'rebels' than one can shake stick at,,,,,


just using the word 'islamist' or 'rebel' doesn't tell anyone anything about who is actually being armed or for what


Simply proves the corruption of gov't. This POTUS however provides arms and support to our enemies WHILE we are at war with them



assuming much

the article doesn't say who is being armed,, so how do we know its someone we are 'at war' with?


slaphead My Constitution says National defense..... NOT world aggression!


i think it's been established that king barry doesn't worry about that little piece of paper...


that piece of paper states:


congress has power
To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water


president has power

to make treaties


and that all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land;



other countries are also our concern, even in the Constitution,,,


Congress has the power, if it is the will of the people.....NOT the POTUS or congress on its own whim

And the "High Seas" does not mean any foreign country or its territorial waters

Treaties and trade maybe, but it warns against alliances

Our Constitution can not dictate foreign policies, and letters of Mark must be recognized by those foreign nations before they can be serviced

Conrad_73's photo
Thu 12/19/13 10:22 AM

Fox! I hope your people succeed in purging those foreign dogs from your country... and your cause. drinker

Anyone caught fighting who is not Syrian should be eliminated... Enough of these foreign fighters in YOUR land!

Would that include the Russians,Iranians and Hezbollah too?

metalwing's photo
Thu 12/19/13 10:43 AM







yeah,, and many administrations before ,,, how did Hussein get his gas again?


i'm sorry, i thought barry was president now, the present... so now you wanna bring up the past? and, since you did, when that was sold to saddam, were we at war with them? no, selling weapons to an enemy is actually treason, and who are we at war with? the same terrorists that are killing our soldiers now?

so barry wants to take our guns, give them to mexican cartels and the same terrorists we are fighting in afganistan...

totally worthy of the "peace" prize....



'
are we at war with those who follow islam? whts your point exactly?


my point is, its part of US policy,, LONG BEFORE OBAMA to sell and trade arms that go into the hands of people who,, guess what? use them sometimes to kill innocent people

that's what guns do


US has been in the gun industry for decades,, just wanted to clear up any dilusion that this was in some exclusive way about OBama or this administration,,,


US dropped a NUCLER BOMB on innocent people
US armed Hussein
US has armed more 'rebels' than one can shake stick at,,,,,


just using the word 'islamist' or 'rebel' doesn't tell anyone anything about who is actually being armed or for what


Simply proves the corruption of gov't. This POTUS however provides arms and support to our enemies WHILE we are at war with them



assuming much

the article doesn't say who is being armed,, so how do we know its someone we are 'at war' with?


try reading the newspaper, or reading articles on the internet.. there's plenty of sources that have documented this... and why is barry getting involved anyway? what does syria's civil war have to do with the US?


its not a topic that interests me enough to seek out other articles,,

this forum interests me so IM commenting on what is provided here in this forum

since when did 'considering' something turn into becoming involved?

since when does a president get 'involved' with anything by themselves,,,, they speak on behalf government and citizens, not for their person,,,

Presidents work with theit CONGRESS ,,, not alone


Newsflash! Two federal judges have declared Obama's actions unconstitutional where he has bypassed congress and made SECRET executive orders! One judge came from liberal beginnings and the other from conservative.

http://beforeitsnews.com/economics-and-politics/2013/12/judge-rules-against-secret-law-in-center-for-effective-government-lawsuit-2459800.html

“The government appears to adopt the cavalier attitude that the President should be permitted to convey orders throughout the Executive Branch without public oversight … to engage in what is in effect governance by ‘secret law,’” Huvelle said. “



This ruling goes nicely with the previous finding by Judge Richard Leon earlier in the week regarding the unconstitutionality of the NSA spying program . Finally our resident “Constitutional Scholar” is getting a well-deserved lesson on the Constitution .

msharmony's photo
Thu 12/19/13 10:54 AM
I must have missed something, nothing in the link provided mentioned anything about constitutionality,,,

and it was about One judges ruling to release some information,,

metalwing's photo
Thu 12/19/13 11:05 AM

I must have missed something, nothing in the link provided mentioned anything about constitutionality,,,

and it was about One judges ruling to release some information,,


It would appear you missed everything.

msharmony's photo
Thu 12/19/13 11:08 AM
lol,, nope,, nothing about constitutionality in the link provided,

mightymoe's photo
Thu 12/19/13 11:10 AM


I must have missed something, nothing in the link provided mentioned anything about constitutionality,,,

and it was about One judges ruling to release some information,,


It would appear you missed everything.


drinker :thumbsup: rofl rofl rofl laugh laugh laugh

msharmony's photo
Thu 12/19/13 11:11 AM
anyone care to post the line that mentions constitutionality,, instead of avoiding the issue with laughter and other comments ?


if one posts that a link is about the consitutionality of something, surely they can post the SPECIFIC part of the link that states their claim...?


but probably not,,,,if its not really there

mightymoe's photo
Thu 12/19/13 11:21 AM

anyone care to post the line that mentions constitutionality,, instead of avoiding the issue with laughter and other comments ?


if one posts that a link is about the consitutionality of something, surely they can post the SPECIFIC part of the link that states their claim...?


but probably not,,,,if its not really there


why? you already stated you don't care enough to read it anyway... lets us know when you do care enough

Ɔʎɹɐx's photo
Thu 12/19/13 11:39 AM
Edited by Ɔʎɹɐx on Thu 12/19/13 11:50 AM
to make things clear , first of all , as a Syrian i am against any involvement of any other country in the Syrian mess for sure , and i don't think that many are interested in that ... but if it happened , why for hell's sake it would be in the terrorists side !

@msharmony : do you think that term "rebels" could be used to describe bunch of killers who came from all around the globe to make me pray to their God against my will ? i don't think so ... rebels fight for freedom and better future , not for Allah Akbar !!

@Johnn111 : thanks friend for your true feelings , each nation has been through bad times , that's how life is going on ..

mightymoe's photo
Thu 12/19/13 11:48 AM


The 2 parties, and all 3 branches of gov't, controlled by bankers and Wall Street CEOs, could care less about what the people think. We are nothing more than an obstacle in their way to the power and privilege they seek.

Oliver Stone laid it out pretty well....

The Untold History Of The United States

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/120359/The_Untold_History_Of_The_United_States_ep07/


http://beforeitsnews.com/economy/2013/12/this-secret-group-controls-the-world-2579670.html?currentSplittedPage=0

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